4 yrs for cutting down tree, no jail time for rape

It was a tree. Sad sure but the actual impact on any individual was none, the impact on the national interest zero. It’s a shame. That’s it.

It’s a shame you didn’t find that legislation before claiming that men regularly get suspended sentences for rape. The average sentence for rape in England is 10 years. I think that’s far too lenient. I also think that most of your posts show an obvious lack of understanding of the English Courts work and your stating of incorrect ‘facts’ was actually detrimental to your argument.

There is no such thing as an accidental assault.

Bits chopped off more like. And we all know two guys with a chainsaw…

@Barnbrack I can't comment on sentences for other crimes but it wasn't just a "tree' it was a much loved living landmark where people spread ashes and admired natural beauty , it was chopped down for no other reason than to say they were responsible for it . Well done to the judge for giving them a harsh sentence, sadly the tree has gone !

Why?

Men and women care about the tree.

But unless the woman involved is 'theirs' in some way, a scary amount of men don't care about the rapes.

Why compare? Rape sentencing is all over the place, no argument there.

The tree was a historic monument. It had value. You could argue that it took a lot longer to grow that tree than a woman, of which there are plenty. That’s not what I’m saying, before the thread explodes, just that it’s a logical argument.

I think there's two very different issues and you can't compare them. It's too simplistic to say they got more than a rapist for cutting down a tree.

Yes 4 years seems a lot for a tree but it was mindless vandalism of a much loved landmark and a case like this in the public eye usually carries a higher sentence. I was surprised they didn't get longer tbh

The ridiculous sentences for rape and sexual assault are the tip of the iceberg. Violence against women goes unreported, when it is reported it's rare it reaches prosecution and court and even rarer a decent sentence is given.Its been shown that there is rife misogyny in the police force etc. This is part of a much bigger issue and one that sadly never seems to be taken seriously.

The tree twats deserved longer than they got IMO, but rapists obviously deserve a lot longer than them.

The answer to 'why' is good old misogyny and full prisons.

I don’t feel sorry for them one bit. Justice is served. 4 years is correct in my opinion.

I think rapists should get 10-20 years.

Yes - and caused some minor damage.

Never mind getting into comparative sentencing, this 4 year sentence is totally and utterly bonkers.

Go and hug a tree and get some rest OP. Nobody disagrees with you about rape sentencing.

I think you're looking at it backwards. 4 years for cutting down a historic landmark is normal. 0 years for rape isn't. Feel sorry for all women who have experienced sexual assault and rape. It makes you feel worthless to read a tree got served 4 years of justice and all women get is a closed case by the police.

But how will any woman tree feel safe if these men are not safely behind bars for many years?

Both stories you have posted are of people who have been discharged due to advanced dementia, that's different to sentencing.

And no custodial for having pictures of child sexual abuse. It’s insane. It’s a tree. It’s a depressing insight.

Thanks, I was obviously asking Uncle Google the wrong question but have now found them and a few others.
I wasn't aware there were any exclusively sex offender prisons and I see the three you mention were all made exclusive since I did my last prison visits (showing my age).
Every day is a school day.

Edited to add
Of course not all sex offenders are in these exclusive prisons, there are still many on separate wings in regular prisons but I have been interested to read about the specialist prisons.

Agree.