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I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

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Purplehat123 · 15/07/2025 13:35

I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

Every time I take my children and our small cavapoo to the park, there’s always someone with an intimidating dog off the lead. Yesterday it was a man with a huge German Shepherd (and I mean huge), a bully breed on a lead, and an Akita off the lead just wandering around.

This is a busy, very suburban park, full of families and young children. And there I am, trying to scoop up my two toddlers, push the pram with the baby, grab the dog, and move away as fast as possible because I am not taking the risk of one of those dogs attacking. And let’s be honest, if something did happen, I’d have to sacrifice my dog to protect my children.

Even the two dogs that were technically on a lead, if they decided to go for another dog or child, there’s no way he could have held them back. They were enormous, powerful breeds.

And don’t get me started on the Akita. It was off-lead, trotting around freely as if that’s totally normal. Akitas were originally bred to guard property and hunt large game, including bears. They are strong, territorial, and known for being aggressive toward other dogs. They can be incredibly unpredictable and are not the type of breed you let wander freely in a public park full of children and pets.

Today it was a woman with a giant Rottweiler off-lead, paying absolutely no attention while she scrolled on her phone. Again, no control, no awareness. Rottweilers were originally bred to drive cattle and guard livestock, and they are incredibly strong, protective dogs. They have a natural guarding instinct, which can easily turn dangerous when not properly controlled. It’s no coincidence that they feature in so many fatal dog attacks, especially involving children. The number of child deaths caused by Rottweilers is horrifying and well-documented. It doesn’t matter how sweet you think your dog is at home but when a dog like that turns, it’s too late to stop it.

Far too many times my own dog, who is a total wimp and literally gets bullied by a chihuahua, has been attacked by dogs whose owners claim, “Oh, they never normally do that.” It’s always after the fact, once the damage is done.

And honestly, it’s the complete lack of awareness that really gets me. You might think your dog is friendly, but when you’re letting it freely wander up to children and other dogs, especially massive, powerful breeds, it’s terrifying. It might not scare you, but to everyone else, it’s incredibly intimidating.

I love dogs. I grew up with them. But this constant anxiety when I take my children out is exhausting. I shouldn’t have to be on high alert every time we go to the park because someone refuses to take basic responsibility for an animal that could cause serious harm.

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TheGreatDownandOut · 20/07/2025 19:24

hungryduck · 20/07/2025 18:54

Toasters kill 700 people a year (global figure).
Toasters kill more people than dogs.

Think we need to start a petition to ban, or at least muzzle, the evil toasters.

😂

TheGreatDownandOut · 20/07/2025 19:21

eastegg · 20/07/2025 19:08

Absolute bollocks. Stop minimising the almost daily issues some people face with anti social dog ownership. You’re saying as long as it’s not a bully and I pay it no mind it’s not going to bother me. I have first hand experience that is rubbish. One recent example; a medium sized spaniel type ran at me going through a wooded area, jumped up 3 times, owner ineffectively swearing at the dog but failing to control it. Bruises all up my arms from the dogs claws.

Don’t you dare tell me that was my fault for failing to ‘pay it no mind’. I was paying it as little mind as I possibly could.

Was the dog trying to attack you or play with you?

I would imagine it’s the latter - in which case, that dog has bad manners and it’s the owners fault. The owner shouldn’t have let that happen.

But, if you read my post… and indeed what this whole discussion is about, we are talking about DANGEROUS dogs actually attacking you. Not unruly dogs trying to play with you (which is a separate issue and I agree, it shouldn’t happen)

eastegg · 20/07/2025 19:08

TheGreatDownandOut · 20/07/2025 16:59

Yes you can. A dog is not going to come and attack you while out in public, unprovoked. With maybe the exception of an XL. Which must be on a lead and muzzled by law.

If you’re paying the dog no mind, they will ignore you.

If you’re like @nund and are desperate to hit any dog that comes near you with a stick, you will probably get attacked.

Absolute bollocks. Stop minimising the almost daily issues some people face with anti social dog ownership. You’re saying as long as it’s not a bully and I pay it no mind it’s not going to bother me. I have first hand experience that is rubbish. One recent example; a medium sized spaniel type ran at me going through a wooded area, jumped up 3 times, owner ineffectively swearing at the dog but failing to control it. Bruises all up my arms from the dogs claws.

Don’t you dare tell me that was my fault for failing to ‘pay it no mind’. I was paying it as little mind as I possibly could.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 20/07/2025 18:55

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 18:48

The day of the dog is coming to an end.

Dream on!

hungryduck · 20/07/2025 18:55

However, this thread has highlighted how important it should be to teach statistics and risk assessments in schools. A campaign to include it in GCSE maths would probably be wise.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 20/07/2025 18:54

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 18:48

The day of the dog is coming to an end.

Nope.

hungryduck · 20/07/2025 18:54

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 17:31

100% of dog bits are caused by dogs. No dogs, no dog bites.

Toasters kill 700 people a year (global figure).
Toasters kill more people than dogs.

Think we need to start a petition to ban, or at least muzzle, the evil toasters.

YeOldeGreyhound · 20/07/2025 18:50

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 18:48

The day of the dog is coming to an end.

Not really. You say this in all dog threads. You need help.

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 18:48

YeOldeGreyhound · 20/07/2025 17:53

Dogs are here to stay. Get over it.

The day of the dog is coming to an end.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 20/07/2025 17:58

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 17:31

100% of dog bits are caused by dogs. No dogs, no dog bites.

Another of your pearls of wisdom 😏

What a joyless world it would be with no dogs.

YeOldeGreyhound · 20/07/2025 17:54

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 17:52

Horses, cars and planes are modes of transport. Dogs are not.

No one really uses a horse in the UK to actually get around.

Balloonhearts · 20/07/2025 17:53

BlankBlankBlank14 · 20/07/2025 13:53

I’m not muzzling, all this guff about you’re going to beat a dog to death with your stick!

As if, you’ve not got a chance, no matter if they look at you or your grandchildren.

You’re making yourself sound quite hilarious. 😆

Or she goes to prison for animal cruelty and her grandkids grow up without the influence, or sense entitlement, of an absolute nutter in their lives.

It's funny though.

YeOldeGreyhound · 20/07/2025 17:53

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 17:31

100% of dog bits are caused by dogs. No dogs, no dog bites.

Dogs are here to stay. Get over it.

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 17:52

Horses, cars and planes are modes of transport. Dogs are not.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 20/07/2025 17:34

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 17:31

100% of dog bits are caused by dogs. No dogs, no dog bites.

No horses, no riding accidents

No cars, no driving accidents

No planes, no flying accidents

Dogs bring a lot of joy and benefits to a lot of people.

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2025 17:31

100% of dog bits are caused by dogs. No dogs, no dog bites.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 20/07/2025 17:22

hungryduck · 20/07/2025 17:07

31,920 dog attacks in the UK in 2024. At least 23,000 of which were by XL bullies. That includes all bites/mauling/death. (Provisional figures say 7 deaths due to dog bites or strikes for 2024).

Compared to:
• 1,350,428 domestic abuse-related crimes and incidents.
• Homicides remained similar to the previous year, with 583 offenses.
• Knife crime (excluding Greater Manchester) increased by 4% to 50,510 offenses.
• Firearms offenses increased by 6% to 6,447 offenses.

So... Who should you be more afraid of walking alongside in the park? Rex or a human?

Furthermore, over 70% of dog bites happen in the home, and in children, that rises to over 80% being inflicted by a family dog. So it is true to say that the OP's children are statistically at far greater risk of being injured by her own tiny dog, than a random "huge" dog in the park.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 20/07/2025 17:17

Strawberrri · 20/07/2025 16:55

Labs and collies are big dogs.

No they’re medium sized dogs.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 20/07/2025 17:14

Strawberrri · 20/07/2025 17:04

Compared to small children they are big dogs. A lab bit my 4 year old nephew on the nose.

I'm sorry your nephew was bitten and yes, obviously compared to a small child they are big. But officially they are medium sized and are both breeds that are recommended as good family pets. So your nephew proves the point that it's not always the alleged "bad" breeds that bite. And it's not always big dogs.

hungryduck · 20/07/2025 17:07

31,920 dog attacks in the UK in 2024. At least 23,000 of which were by XL bullies. That includes all bites/mauling/death. (Provisional figures say 7 deaths due to dog bites or strikes for 2024).

Compared to:
• 1,350,428 domestic abuse-related crimes and incidents.
• Homicides remained similar to the previous year, with 583 offenses.
• Knife crime (excluding Greater Manchester) increased by 4% to 50,510 offenses.
• Firearms offenses increased by 6% to 6,447 offenses.

So... Who should you be more afraid of walking alongside in the park? Rex or a human?

Strawberrri · 20/07/2025 17:04

Compared to small children they are big dogs. A lab bit my 4 year old nephew on the nose.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 20/07/2025 17:00

Strawberrri · 20/07/2025 16:55

Labs and collies are big dogs.

No. They are both medium dogs.
Big dogs are Rottweilers, GSD, Akita etc.
Giant dogs are ones like Leonbergers and Great Danes.
I hope that helps.

TheGreatDownandOut · 20/07/2025 16:59

eastegg · 20/07/2025 14:28

The point you’re so spectacularly missing is that we have no idea when one might change into the other. And also that, no matter how easy it may be to clock whether a dog is currently being aggressive, and even if we could predict when a dog is about to be aggressive, there’s nothing we can do about it.

The only person who can do anything about it is the owner, by having the dog under proper control and making it visible that they are doing so. That should normally involve a lead, and if not a lead, then excellent training and vigilance. Anything less is poor and anti social ownership.

It’s laughable to just say that it’s obvious when a dog is being aggressive. I’d love to see you explaining that to the families of dog attack victims.

Yes you can. A dog is not going to come and attack you while out in public, unprovoked. With maybe the exception of an XL. Which must be on a lead and muzzled by law.

If you’re paying the dog no mind, they will ignore you.

If you’re like @nund and are desperate to hit any dog that comes near you with a stick, you will probably get attacked.

Strawberrri · 20/07/2025 16:55

Labs and collies are big dogs.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 20/07/2025 15:03

@Strawberrri
Small dogs can kill. Jack Russells have killed people. Staffies have killed more than Rottweilers. So why are you singling out big dogs?
Bite statistics have Labradors and Border Collies in the top 10. So again, why are you singling out big dogs?
Any dog can kill, just as any human can. It is not about size.

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