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I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

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Purplehat123 · 15/07/2025 13:35

I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

Every time I take my children and our small cavapoo to the park, there’s always someone with an intimidating dog off the lead. Yesterday it was a man with a huge German Shepherd (and I mean huge), a bully breed on a lead, and an Akita off the lead just wandering around.

This is a busy, very suburban park, full of families and young children. And there I am, trying to scoop up my two toddlers, push the pram with the baby, grab the dog, and move away as fast as possible because I am not taking the risk of one of those dogs attacking. And let’s be honest, if something did happen, I’d have to sacrifice my dog to protect my children.

Even the two dogs that were technically on a lead, if they decided to go for another dog or child, there’s no way he could have held them back. They were enormous, powerful breeds.

And don’t get me started on the Akita. It was off-lead, trotting around freely as if that’s totally normal. Akitas were originally bred to guard property and hunt large game, including bears. They are strong, territorial, and known for being aggressive toward other dogs. They can be incredibly unpredictable and are not the type of breed you let wander freely in a public park full of children and pets.

Today it was a woman with a giant Rottweiler off-lead, paying absolutely no attention while she scrolled on her phone. Again, no control, no awareness. Rottweilers were originally bred to drive cattle and guard livestock, and they are incredibly strong, protective dogs. They have a natural guarding instinct, which can easily turn dangerous when not properly controlled. It’s no coincidence that they feature in so many fatal dog attacks, especially involving children. The number of child deaths caused by Rottweilers is horrifying and well-documented. It doesn’t matter how sweet you think your dog is at home but when a dog like that turns, it’s too late to stop it.

Far too many times my own dog, who is a total wimp and literally gets bullied by a chihuahua, has been attacked by dogs whose owners claim, “Oh, they never normally do that.” It’s always after the fact, once the damage is done.

And honestly, it’s the complete lack of awareness that really gets me. You might think your dog is friendly, but when you’re letting it freely wander up to children and other dogs, especially massive, powerful breeds, it’s terrifying. It might not scare you, but to everyone else, it’s incredibly intimidating.

I love dogs. I grew up with them. But this constant anxiety when I take my children out is exhausting. I shouldn’t have to be on high alert every time we go to the park because someone refuses to take basic responsibility for an animal that could cause serious harm.

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bugalugs45 · 15/07/2025 23:06

hehehesorry · 15/07/2025 22:17

https://blog.dogsbite.org/2022/06/fatal-rottweiler-attacks-archival.html

Here you go, it's USA but there's no similar collection with links to victims from the UK/Europe. They have many more posts of dog fatalities and which breeds are doing it - they're what sensible people would expect.

I'm with the OP - I avoid people with power breeds and if a small dog runs up aggressively to my dogs I grab it by the collar or the scruff without worrying about losing my arm. A lead doesn't mean much to a power breed, it's more of a decoration and I don't know if the person holding it is capable. Especially when so many wear those stupid harnesses or nose loops. I'd only trust one in a properly fitted prong or slip when the owner weighs more than 70kg and even then I'd rather just walk the other way.

We are not living in America , thankfully for lots of reasons

mumwhoneedshalp · 15/07/2025 23:04

You sound unhinged.

Baital · 15/07/2025 22:45

From what you have said two out of the three dogs were on a lead, and the third dog was off lead but not bothering anyone (except by existing)?

Dogs absolutely should be under control in public, but it sounds as if these three were under control?

AcquadiP · 15/07/2025 22:41

HangryLikeTheHulk · 15/07/2025 21:47

Terrible comparison though, cars are necessary to get to work & school, whereas dogs are an animal held captive as a source of amusement / plaything for the people who keep them.

Cars aren't necessary for either work or school as there's public transport available or good old fashioned walking.

Held captive? You think dogs would be happier living wild, scavenging like foxes and sleeping outdoors in harsh winter conditions?

Onleemoi · 15/07/2025 22:40

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Only shit dog owners will have a problem with animal cruelty? Good owners will be fine with it?

Balloonhearts · 15/07/2025 22:36

So, just to clarify, none of these dogs did anything wrong or showed any sign of aggression? Your anxiety is based solely on the fact that they could? Because, by that logic, nowhere is safe. Any random stranger could attack you and in my area, that's statistically more likely.

You need some treatment for your anxiety, being you must be exhausting.

AcquadiP · 15/07/2025 22:32

Loki64 · 15/07/2025 22:21

Completely agree.
Good breed choices btw! I have a collie!
We have an incident every single day we go to the park near our home, where rhe same two tiny dogs bark aggressively at my dog while hes on the lead, they ran at us so quickly a few weeks ago I dropped my phone and had to pay to fix my smashed screen 🙄

Collies are lovely dogs!

That's an awful situation you're dealing with.
Sorry to hear about your 'phone.

savagedaughter · 15/07/2025 22:26

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Streamline2 · 15/07/2025 22:25

I’ve lost count of the amount of conflict I’ve had to deal with from dog owners who appear to think my toddler is fair game to be intimidated by their dogs.

literally the worst thing about being a parent of a young child is irresponsible dog owners and there are huge numbers of them.

Why can’t owners appreciate that not everyone thinks their animal is anything other than a potentially dangerous nuisance.

I really wish dogs didn’t exist.

Strawberrri · 15/07/2025 22:24

Surely the issue is the possibility that a child might run past /throw something/ do something unexpected and the dog reacts /fine if it’s a small dog but you wont get a large dog off - maybe kids should be banned from parks so the dogs get a free run

jetlag92 · 15/07/2025 22:24

WombatStewForTea · 15/07/2025 13:52

It’s no coincidence that they feature in so many fatal dog attacks, especially involving children

@Purplehat123 I'd love to know where you've got this stat from

The official UK stats. You do this thing called google.

Loki64 · 15/07/2025 22:21

AcquadiP · 15/07/2025 18:18

I second this. Over the last 30 + years, I've kept a GSD, 3 Border Collies, 1 Black Labrador and 2 BC X Labs, none of them dog-aggressive. I read the body language of any dog approaching my dogs and almost invariably it's been the smaller dogs that have been hell bent on starting trouble with their unprovoked barking and snapping. They're always accompanied by owners who either find their dog's behaviour amusing or do precisely nothing to discourage the behaviour. And these owners have always looked shocked - as indeed have their dogs - when I've swiftly intervened with a harsh tone of voice and exaggerated arm movements and sent their dog running back to them. It's probably the only time these dogs have ever been told off!
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Completely agree.
Good breed choices btw! I have a collie!
We have an incident every single day we go to the park near our home, where rhe same two tiny dogs bark aggressively at my dog while hes on the lead, they ran at us so quickly a few weeks ago I dropped my phone and had to pay to fix my smashed screen 🙄

hehehesorry · 15/07/2025 22:17

bugalugs45 · 15/07/2025 18:29

Rottie owner here… also interested in these statistics that they often kill children ? Please post a link 🙄
What an absolutely pointless thread bashing people who make different choices to you .

https://blog.dogsbite.org/2022/06/fatal-rottweiler-attacks-archival.html

Here you go, it's USA but there's no similar collection with links to victims from the UK/Europe. They have many more posts of dog fatalities and which breeds are doing it - they're what sensible people would expect.

I'm with the OP - I avoid people with power breeds and if a small dog runs up aggressively to my dogs I grab it by the collar or the scruff without worrying about losing my arm. A lead doesn't mean much to a power breed, it's more of a decoration and I don't know if the person holding it is capable. Especially when so many wear those stupid harnesses or nose loops. I'd only trust one in a properly fitted prong or slip when the owner weighs more than 70kg and even then I'd rather just walk the other way.

OonaStubbs · 15/07/2025 22:04

CriticalOverthinking · 15/07/2025 21:15

Ban what? All dogs? Any dog can attack if provoked, poorly trained/cared for, gets ill so is your solution ban all dogs everywhere?

Ban any dog that is capable of killing a human being. And any dog capable of barking and disturbing the peace. People can have cats as pets. Or mini-pigs that do not bark or kill. Or maybe one of the new robot-dogs.

2025M · 15/07/2025 21:48

HangryLikeTheHulk · 15/07/2025 21:47

Terrible comparison though, cars are necessary to get to work & school, whereas dogs are an animal held captive as a source of amusement / plaything for the people who keep them.

Some dogs are working dogs. They are necessary.

HangryLikeTheHulk · 15/07/2025 21:47

AcquadiP · 15/07/2025 21:26

For the same reason we haven't banned cars despite countless fatal RTAs caused by dangerous driving or driving whilst under the influence: the majority don't drive like lunatics or whilst drunk or haven taken drugs.
There are 13 million dogs in the UK, one in 3 households has one. Whilst every dog-caused fatality is an unnecessary tragedy, it isn't fair or appropriate to ban breeds unless there is clearly a major problem with that breed, as has clearly been the case with XL Bullies and the American Pit Bull Terrier before it. My only criticism of the XL Bully ban is that the Government imo should have introduced the ban far earlier than it actually did, given the extremely high level of fatalities.
I have just posted a link to a Cockerpoo attack on a 3 year old outside a school in Rainham, Kent last month. Should this breed be banned as well now?

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Terrible comparison though, cars are necessary to get to work & school, whereas dogs are an animal held captive as a source of amusement / plaything for the people who keep them.

2025M · 15/07/2025 21:45

It sounds like you are scared of dogs and also automatically make assumptions based on size of dog, not body language. It's body language that is key. Dogs were all bred for something, but some are so far removed from working lines now. Large dogs are often far more docile and calmer than smaller breeds. They also normally get trained far more intensely if the owner is decent because it's not "cute" behaviour in a large dog, but accepted (wrongly so) when the dog is small. I.e the amount of times a small dog has jumped or pawed me and the owner says, "oh isnt that cute". No... It isn't.

Interestingly, at a recent wedding we went to, 2 vets we had both said cavapoos were causing them the most problems due to poor breeding, often during covid, wrong temprament poodles creating highly strung dogs with unpredictable natures.

YeOldeGreyhound · 15/07/2025 21:32

NewPlaceToGo · 15/07/2025 21:32

I agree OP. My DS had to give up rollerblading in the park because for some reason every single dog treated him like a prey species when he was on rollerblades. The owners didn't care one bit. The dog would just be leaping up in his face and barking savagely and they were not interested.

Every single dog?

NewPlaceToGo · 15/07/2025 21:32

I agree OP. My DS had to give up rollerblading in the park because for some reason every single dog treated him like a prey species when he was on rollerblades. The owners didn't care one bit. The dog would just be leaping up in his face and barking savagely and they were not interested.

MoveOverToTheSea · 15/07/2025 21:30

TheGreatDownandOut · 15/07/2025 20:36

What would you like them to do instead?

Dog owners could have to take their dog/puppy to classes by law and only be allowed out wo a lead and/or a muzzle until they've pass a test?
A bit like you can’t drive a car wo a driving test.

I mean the issue here is first and foremost the owners right?
And most of those won’t get sentenced (unless have got really serious) and truly believe their dog is different and is great/not a danger/behaves well (even when it doesn’t)

I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not.
im sure people will find holes etc….
But apart from (mandatory) training, I’m not sure how you can teach owners that a good recall is essential and not letting your dog run towards anyone and everyone is not ok.

AcquadiP · 15/07/2025 21:26

OonaStubbs · 15/07/2025 19:46

Not enough and it's all reactive rather than proactive. Why not ban the dogs before they get chance to maim or kill?

For the same reason we haven't banned cars despite countless fatal RTAs caused by dangerous driving or driving whilst under the influence: the majority don't drive like lunatics or whilst drunk or haven taken drugs.
There are 13 million dogs in the UK, one in 3 households has one. Whilst every dog-caused fatality is an unnecessary tragedy, it isn't fair or appropriate to ban breeds unless there is clearly a major problem with that breed, as has clearly been the case with XL Bullies and the American Pit Bull Terrier before it. My only criticism of the XL Bully ban is that the Government imo should have introduced the ban far earlier than it actually did, given the extremely high level of fatalities.
I have just posted a link to a Cockerpoo attack on a 3 year old outside a school in Rainham, Kent last month. Should this breed be banned as well now?

Pennyforyourthoughtsplease · 15/07/2025 21:24

Tbh OP I'm sick of all dogs ruining it for everyone else, and it's usually the smaller ones that are more yappy and aggressive. Most of all I hate seeing owners who let them sit on seats in cafes etc that people also sit on, its gross.

YeOldeGreyhound · 15/07/2025 21:20

You are anxious about dogs on leads. That is a you problem. What does "technically on a lead" mean?

YeOldeGreyhound · 15/07/2025 21:17

CriticalOverthinking · 15/07/2025 21:15

Ban what? All dogs? Any dog can attack if provoked, poorly trained/cared for, gets ill so is your solution ban all dogs everywhere?

Ah, Oona posts on all dog threads about how the government need to do "something" about "all the dogs".

CriticalOverthinking · 15/07/2025 21:15

OonaStubbs · 15/07/2025 19:46

Not enough and it's all reactive rather than proactive. Why not ban the dogs before they get chance to maim or kill?

Ban what? All dogs? Any dog can attack if provoked, poorly trained/cared for, gets ill so is your solution ban all dogs everywhere?