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I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

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Purplehat123 · 15/07/2025 13:35

I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

Every time I take my children and our small cavapoo to the park, there’s always someone with an intimidating dog off the lead. Yesterday it was a man with a huge German Shepherd (and I mean huge), a bully breed on a lead, and an Akita off the lead just wandering around.

This is a busy, very suburban park, full of families and young children. And there I am, trying to scoop up my two toddlers, push the pram with the baby, grab the dog, and move away as fast as possible because I am not taking the risk of one of those dogs attacking. And let’s be honest, if something did happen, I’d have to sacrifice my dog to protect my children.

Even the two dogs that were technically on a lead, if they decided to go for another dog or child, there’s no way he could have held them back. They were enormous, powerful breeds.

And don’t get me started on the Akita. It was off-lead, trotting around freely as if that’s totally normal. Akitas were originally bred to guard property and hunt large game, including bears. They are strong, territorial, and known for being aggressive toward other dogs. They can be incredibly unpredictable and are not the type of breed you let wander freely in a public park full of children and pets.

Today it was a woman with a giant Rottweiler off-lead, paying absolutely no attention while she scrolled on her phone. Again, no control, no awareness. Rottweilers were originally bred to drive cattle and guard livestock, and they are incredibly strong, protective dogs. They have a natural guarding instinct, which can easily turn dangerous when not properly controlled. It’s no coincidence that they feature in so many fatal dog attacks, especially involving children. The number of child deaths caused by Rottweilers is horrifying and well-documented. It doesn’t matter how sweet you think your dog is at home but when a dog like that turns, it’s too late to stop it.

Far too many times my own dog, who is a total wimp and literally gets bullied by a chihuahua, has been attacked by dogs whose owners claim, “Oh, they never normally do that.” It’s always after the fact, once the damage is done.

And honestly, it’s the complete lack of awareness that really gets me. You might think your dog is friendly, but when you’re letting it freely wander up to children and other dogs, especially massive, powerful breeds, it’s terrifying. It might not scare you, but to everyone else, it’s incredibly intimidating.

I love dogs. I grew up with them. But this constant anxiety when I take my children out is exhausting. I shouldn’t have to be on high alert every time we go to the park because someone refuses to take basic responsibility for an animal that could cause serious harm.

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Onleemoi · 17/07/2025 08:37

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 08:30

If you can’t kill the dog in the moment it happens, do you go all Liam Neeson on them and use your special set of skills to hunt them down?

I’ve got an image of granny trying to throttle a dog with her bare hands.

Overtheway · 17/07/2025 08:32

Colalola · 15/07/2025 13:49

It sounds like you’re scared of dogs. I know big dogs can be intimidating but passing judgement because of the breed is wild to me. That big dog has probably been raised with the exact same love and affection as your dog has! Big dogs don’t mean horrible and scary dogs. Do you want everyone to just have small cavapoos? I have a small cockapoo and think this post is utterly ridiculous and judgemental. If you’re scared of big dogs, go to private parks where you won’t see any! Any dog is capable of hurting a child or another dog - not just certain breeds. The media won’t report on that though, hence your judgment.

This is so disingenuous.

Yes, any dog could hurt a child. But the likely outcome if a child is attacked by an Alsatian, German Shepherd, Rottweiler etc. is so much worse than if they were attacked by a small dog.

For one, it's far easier to get a little dog off of someone. You can physically pick it up. Then there's teeth size and the actual power of their bite to consider.

I grew up with big dogs and remember them carrying full branches on walks. One's favourite game was to hang from trees by his teeth. My current small dog could only fit a small stick in her mouth.

I love dogs (including big ones), but not everyone should be allowed to own one with the potential to end someone's life. I'd like to see strict laws and licenses to ensure they were all properly trained, and that the owner was trained in how to stop an attack if it happened (In my view, if your dog hurts someone it should be legally the same as if you attacked them yourself). I can't see how any of this could be properly enforced though.

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 08:30

nund · 17/07/2025 08:22

You're welcome.

If you can’t kill the dog in the moment it happens, do you go all Liam Neeson on them and use your special set of skills to hunt them down?

nund · 17/07/2025 08:22

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 08:21

I am thinking about it and it’s really funny. Thank you.

You're welcome.

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 08:21

nund · 17/07/2025 08:20

Good for you. What I said still stands. Think about it.

I am thinking about it and it’s really funny. Thank you.

nund · 17/07/2025 08:20

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 08:17

I don’t even have a dog you wally 😂

Good for you. What I said still stands. Think about it.

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 08:19

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/07/2025 08:14

Please do your research.

Have you ever looked at dog death stats? Jack Russells have killed. Staffies are not large but have been implicated in more deaths than Rottweilers.

Dog bite statistics are also interesting. The top 10 includes Labrador and Border Collie, both of which are considered to be perfect family dogs.

80% - 90% of bites to children occur in the home, with a family pet.

I have a vet in the family, she said the most aggressive dog she's coming across currently is Cockapoos that were bought during lockdown.

Two of the large dogs that the OP took issue with were on a lead. This is the reason that we take issue with this thread.

I have one of the gentle giant breeds but she is never off the lead in a public place, because her size intimidates people. She is not a status dog - I'm a 61 year old middle class, educated woman, living in an affluent area. I've had the same breed for almost 50 years, 8 dogs in total, all of them have been calm and good natured, trustworthy around children and dogs. I've had numerous attacks on them by off lead dogs, most of them small breeds.

I object to being told that my large powerful dog is dangerous. She is always on the lead and poses no threat to anybody.

Unfortunately, what you are saying is sensible and rational and intelligent so it won’t be received well by the rabid dog haters on this thread.
I appreciated it though!

Onleemoi · 17/07/2025 08:19

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Course you are!

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 08:17

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I don’t even have a dog you wally 😂

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/07/2025 08:14

FlyMeSomewhere · 16/07/2025 20:56

People on here are exactly the issue! They don't acknowledge how responsible they need to be and how dangerous their large breeds are! A dachshund will not kill anyone, it'll nip! People need to stop using the ridiculous little dog argument! It's not a little breed that's been killing and maiming for the last few years. Large muscular locking jaws that fit around a child's head are never going to be comparable to a tiny muzzle!

This arrogance adds to the nervousness already caused by so many people having dogs off leads now - there's been dog attacks where I live and unfortunately in one case the poor dog that was injured was off a lead and trotted towards an aggressive dog that was on a lead so yes all dogs ideally need to be on a lead for safety

Please do your research.

Have you ever looked at dog death stats? Jack Russells have killed. Staffies are not large but have been implicated in more deaths than Rottweilers.

Dog bite statistics are also interesting. The top 10 includes Labrador and Border Collie, both of which are considered to be perfect family dogs.

80% - 90% of bites to children occur in the home, with a family pet.

I have a vet in the family, she said the most aggressive dog she's coming across currently is Cockapoos that were bought during lockdown.

Two of the large dogs that the OP took issue with were on a lead. This is the reason that we take issue with this thread.

I have one of the gentle giant breeds but she is never off the lead in a public place, because her size intimidates people. She is not a status dog - I'm a 61 year old middle class, educated woman, living in an affluent area. I've had the same breed for almost 50 years, 8 dogs in total, all of them have been calm and good natured, trustworthy around children and dogs. I've had numerous attacks on them by off lead dogs, most of them small breeds.

I object to being told that my large powerful dog is dangerous. She is always on the lead and poses no threat to anybody.

nund · 17/07/2025 08:12

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TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 08:00

HangryLikeTheHulk · 17/07/2025 07:42

I’m on about my challenged migrant teenage son who likes to approach strangers and dig his nails into their chests while yelling at them and occasionally licking their faces.

Sometimes he yells at children and now and again attacks them. He doesn’t stop when I shout his name.

Most days he defecates on the floor in public, and regularly urinates on playground equipment.

And it’s fine, right ? He’s allowed to do this stuff. My definitely real challenged migrant son.

Your definitely real migrant son who you keep in a cage 😂😂
I get the comparison you are trying to make, but it’s really not working.

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 07:57

OonaStubbs · 17/07/2025 07:49

How do you avoid places where dogs are when they are almost everywhere?

That’s not my problem as I don’t want to avoid them.
I gave you two other options though so if you can’t manage option 2, you always have option 3 to fall back on.

OonaStubbs · 17/07/2025 07:49

TheGreatDownandOut · 16/07/2025 22:11

Thing is, you can all argue until you’re blue in the face but dogs aren’t going anywhere. They’re allowed in many more places than they used to be allowed and whether you agree with it or not, it’s kind of tough shit.
So you have a few options

  1. go to places where dogs are and tut your heads off and then start a thread about it or
  2. avoid places where dogs are or
  3. lighten the fuck up

How do you avoid places where dogs are when they are almost everywhere?

Cosyblankets · 17/07/2025 07:46

Don't think OP coming back.
Maybe they've been eaten by a labrador

HangryLikeTheHulk · 17/07/2025 07:42

Whataninterestinglookingpotato · 17/07/2025 07:30

I run regularly with my medium sized working breed off the lead. She wouldn’t scare you too much OP as she’s not a large typically aggressive breed. She has no desire to interact with other dogs and doesn’t want small curly things chasing her, jumping and barking. Which very often happens. Of course then it would be my dogs fault if anything happened as she would be the larger dog, even when she’s been jumped, nipped and barked at by a small dog with no recall for some time without reacting.

the worst behaved dogs in my experience are the fashionable cockapoo, cavapoo type dogs and dachshunds. They tend to be poorly trained and because they’re cute people let them get away with stuff they shouldn’t and because they’re small they let them get away with bad behaviour that wouldn’t be tolerated in larger breeds.

I got chased and bitten by a cavapoo when out running. It had zero recall and gave zero shits about its owners feeble attempts to call it back. They did apologise and I just told them to keep it on a lead as it clearly wasn’t trained. This has never happened with a German shepherd!

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I’d have kicked it in the bouche.

HangryLikeTheHulk · 17/07/2025 07:42

TheGreatDownandOut · 16/07/2025 18:35

What the hell are you going on about 😂

I’m on about my challenged migrant teenage son who likes to approach strangers and dig his nails into their chests while yelling at them and occasionally licking their faces.

Sometimes he yells at children and now and again attacks them. He doesn’t stop when I shout his name.

Most days he defecates on the floor in public, and regularly urinates on playground equipment.

And it’s fine, right ? He’s allowed to do this stuff. My definitely real challenged migrant son.

Barney16 · 17/07/2025 07:38

I have had a little dog, gorgeous but very reactive and a big dog, gorgeous but a complete scaredy cat. Literally hides behind us when approached by anything. So I'm not sure it's a breed thing, it's a dog thing. Having said that, far more scary to see a huge dog running towards you than a tiny one. And with a tiny dog at least you stand a chance of booting it out of the way. It can be nerve wracking if there are lots of dogs off lead because of course you only know your dog. We have started booking a dog field much more often because it's less stressful.

Whataninterestinglookingpotato · 17/07/2025 07:30

I run regularly with my medium sized working breed off the lead. She wouldn’t scare you too much OP as she’s not a large typically aggressive breed. She has no desire to interact with other dogs and doesn’t want small curly things chasing her, jumping and barking. Which very often happens. Of course then it would be my dogs fault if anything happened as she would be the larger dog, even when she’s been jumped, nipped and barked at by a small dog with no recall for some time without reacting.

the worst behaved dogs in my experience are the fashionable cockapoo, cavapoo type dogs and dachshunds. They tend to be poorly trained and because they’re cute people let them get away with stuff they shouldn’t and because they’re small they let them get away with bad behaviour that wouldn’t be tolerated in larger breeds.

I got chased and bitten by a cavapoo when out running. It had zero recall and gave zero shits about its owners feeble attempts to call it back. They did apologise and I just told them to keep it on a lead as it clearly wasn’t trained. This has never happened with a German shepherd!

BlankBlankBlank14 · 17/07/2025 07:25

TheGreatDownandOut · 16/07/2025 22:11

Thing is, you can all argue until you’re blue in the face but dogs aren’t going anywhere. They’re allowed in many more places than they used to be allowed and whether you agree with it or not, it’s kind of tough shit.
So you have a few options

  1. go to places where dogs are and tut your heads off and then start a thread about it or
  2. avoid places where dogs are or
  3. lighten the fuck up

Spot on!!

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 07:05

OonaStubbs · 16/07/2025 23:04

People need to boycott shops and eateries that allow dogs. Instead of moaning about it online, take your business elsewhere to businesses that put the needs of paying customers above the "needs" of dogs. Because it's not like dogs actually enjoy being taken to shops or restaurants. They'd rather be in a nice dog enclosure at the zoo where they can be outside with other dogs.

This is the most sensible thing you’ve said!!
Yes, PLEASE can all the dog haters fuck off elsewhere. That would be lovely

hehehesorry · 17/07/2025 00:25

spoonbillstretford · 16/07/2025 20:27

Not mine. She barely raced as she was too lazy to chase anything. This makes her a fantastic pet and we have two cats also. I'd have sighthounds anytime, they are wonderful, and I have always been a cat person at heart.

You do see mimsy daft nervous small dog owners picking their dogs up around her sometimes. Good as it's more likely to be their untrained pampered made up breed ankle biters that are so overbred you can barely identify it as a dog any more that cause a problem. Ridiculous humans.

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It's not daft to pick up a small dog around a large dog that has a notorious prey drive (your cold greyhound doesn't mean most are to be trusted). One bite will kill a small dog, a small cocker or bigger could take a thrashing from a greyhound but in toy breeds a shake will break their spine/puncture their organs/disembowel them. Sighthounds are wonderful and my dog of choice but after hunting with them and seeing what they are when they're not in bed mode I'd never judge someone for picking up their small dog around mine - to do so would be to expect them to bet their dog's life on my dog's good nature and why should they.

Greys aren't socialised to other breeds of dogs when bred for racing and it often manifests in prey drive or aggression towards unfamiliar breeds aswell as an affinity for their own kind. You're not special for having a big dog - there's so much snobbery towards small dogs from people who have large breeds. A true dog lover imo can appreciate all breeds and appreciation means what the dog was meant to do vs just it being attached to a human. A small companion breed dog's job is being a happy friend in a typical home and typical garden while not burdening their owner with OTT exercise/behavioural needs and they typically do this much better than big dogs judging from the posts on the doghouse.

BarkItOff · 16/07/2025 23:31

Let me get this right.

So the dogs didn’t approach your dog, gave you no reason at all to think they are aggressive and in fact 2 of them were on a lead?

But because of their breed you’re not happy? Wow!

Ladamesansmerci · 16/07/2025 23:29

People here will argue until they're blue in the face that breed doesn't matter. It absolutely does. ALL animals are unpredictable. They are still animals that have things like prey drive and guarding instinct. It's genetics. You cannot love or train ingrained genetic instincts out of a dog. That's why people buy different breeds. Because they are known for different traits. There is a reason you don't typically get Labradors mauling people.

No one should be letting an animal that is capable of killing someone off a lead, especially in a place with children. I like dogs and dogs like Rotties and German Shepherds can be great dogs, but that doesn't change the fact that they can kill. People love to compare breeds and say 'but chihuahuas' etc, but the reality is that even a child could boot away one, and grown adults certainly could. That being said, I believe all dogs should be on leads, and certainly at public parks designed for families.

You're not crazy to be wary of a large animal capable of mauling and don't let anyone make you think otherwise. I have a 1 year old, and I avoid big dogs if I see one coming. I don't let any strange dog at all close to my baby's pram. It's not worth it.

As for me, I like dogs and will stroke them all lol, but still believe animals should be treated with some wariness and respect, and also believe owners should stop their dogs going up to random people.

YeOldeGreyhound · 16/07/2025 23:16

OonaStubbs · 16/07/2025 23:04

People need to boycott shops and eateries that allow dogs. Instead of moaning about it online, take your business elsewhere to businesses that put the needs of paying customers above the "needs" of dogs. Because it's not like dogs actually enjoy being taken to shops or restaurants. They'd rather be in a nice dog enclosure at the zoo where they can be outside with other dogs.

A dog enclosure at the zoo? 😂

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