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I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

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Purplehat123 · 15/07/2025 13:35

I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

Every time I take my children and our small cavapoo to the park, there’s always someone with an intimidating dog off the lead. Yesterday it was a man with a huge German Shepherd (and I mean huge), a bully breed on a lead, and an Akita off the lead just wandering around.

This is a busy, very suburban park, full of families and young children. And there I am, trying to scoop up my two toddlers, push the pram with the baby, grab the dog, and move away as fast as possible because I am not taking the risk of one of those dogs attacking. And let’s be honest, if something did happen, I’d have to sacrifice my dog to protect my children.

Even the two dogs that were technically on a lead, if they decided to go for another dog or child, there’s no way he could have held them back. They were enormous, powerful breeds.

And don’t get me started on the Akita. It was off-lead, trotting around freely as if that’s totally normal. Akitas were originally bred to guard property and hunt large game, including bears. They are strong, territorial, and known for being aggressive toward other dogs. They can be incredibly unpredictable and are not the type of breed you let wander freely in a public park full of children and pets.

Today it was a woman with a giant Rottweiler off-lead, paying absolutely no attention while she scrolled on her phone. Again, no control, no awareness. Rottweilers were originally bred to drive cattle and guard livestock, and they are incredibly strong, protective dogs. They have a natural guarding instinct, which can easily turn dangerous when not properly controlled. It’s no coincidence that they feature in so many fatal dog attacks, especially involving children. The number of child deaths caused by Rottweilers is horrifying and well-documented. It doesn’t matter how sweet you think your dog is at home but when a dog like that turns, it’s too late to stop it.

Far too many times my own dog, who is a total wimp and literally gets bullied by a chihuahua, has been attacked by dogs whose owners claim, “Oh, they never normally do that.” It’s always after the fact, once the damage is done.

And honestly, it’s the complete lack of awareness that really gets me. You might think your dog is friendly, but when you’re letting it freely wander up to children and other dogs, especially massive, powerful breeds, it’s terrifying. It might not scare you, but to everyone else, it’s incredibly intimidating.

I love dogs. I grew up with them. But this constant anxiety when I take my children out is exhausting. I shouldn’t have to be on high alert every time we go to the park because someone refuses to take basic responsibility for an animal that could cause serious harm.

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TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 14:03

nund · 17/07/2025 13:54

Anything threatens my grandkids, I do react strongly in a a way those responsible for the threat may find unpleasant. I was kind of the same when my kids were small.

I suppose that's just the way I am.

But, anyway, we'll have no problems if you keep control of your animals. (And yourselves, come to that.)

[I remember a French quotation from when I was younger: "Cet animal est méchant; si on l'attaque, il se défend". Not sure if that's spelled right, but, anyway, perhaps those non-francophone dog people might like to get a Frenchy to explain.]

Total Liam Neeson vibes

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/07/2025 14:00

nund · 17/07/2025 13:54

Anything threatens my grandkids, I do react strongly in a a way those responsible for the threat may find unpleasant. I was kind of the same when my kids were small.

I suppose that's just the way I am.

But, anyway, we'll have no problems if you keep control of your animals. (And yourselves, come to that.)

[I remember a French quotation from when I was younger: "Cet animal est méchant; si on l'attaque, il se défend". Not sure if that's spelled right, but, anyway, perhaps those non-francophone dog people might like to get a Frenchy to explain.]

How appropriate, given that I have a large French guarding breed 😁

But I feel perfectly safe; she never barks away from home turf and is never off the lead in public. For her own safety.
She's also not aggressive in the least but there are no doubt people here that would still label her dangerous. Like the now absent OP...

nund · 17/07/2025 13:54

YeOldeGreyhound · 17/07/2025 13:42

You sound like a really pleasant person.
If you are willing to beat a dog to death for barking, then you are a risk to your grandchildren.

Anything threatens my grandkids, I do react strongly in a a way those responsible for the threat may find unpleasant. I was kind of the same when my kids were small.

I suppose that's just the way I am.

But, anyway, we'll have no problems if you keep control of your animals. (And yourselves, come to that.)

[I remember a French quotation from when I was younger: "Cet animal est méchant; si on l'attaque, il se défend". Not sure if that's spelled right, but, anyway, perhaps those non-francophone dog people might like to get a Frenchy to explain.]

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/07/2025 13:47

Bridport · 15/07/2025 15:35

Three kickers now. Lovely people.

Are you suggesting that, based on your own experience, @Bridport, no-one has ever been bitten or threatened by an out-of-control dog? Because there are many statistics to prove that is wrong.

You do not seem to understand that, when someone IS attacked by a dog, they need to defend themselves, and have every right to do so.

What do YOU suggest someone should do if they are bitten by a dog? You are condemning those who say they would kick a dog that was attacking them, yet seem completely unwilling - or unable - to offer any practical solutions.

nund · 17/07/2025 13:43

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/07/2025 12:39

I'd say you need to be careful you don't bump into @nund with her grandchildren while you're out on walkies.

Yes. And if our paths do cross, make sure you're fully in control of your dog. Or else ...

YeOldeGreyhound · 17/07/2025 13:42

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You sound like a really pleasant person.
If you are willing to beat a dog to death for barking, then you are a risk to your grandchildren.

nund · 17/07/2025 13:40

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For barking. What an absolute over reaction.

nund · 17/07/2025 13:37

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So you would beat a dog to death in front of children?

nund · 17/07/2025 13:35

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You would kill a dog that is just barking, in plain site of your grandchildren?
You would be prosecuted for causing suffering to an animal, and a referral to social services for doing that in the company of your grandkids.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/07/2025 12:39

HangryLikeTheHulk · 17/07/2025 12:27

He’s my fur baby. Furry due to his hormonal issues.

I'd say you need to be careful you don't bump into @nund with her grandchildren while you're out on walkies.

HangryLikeTheHulk · 17/07/2025 12:27

Muffsies · 17/07/2025 11:13

If anyone doesn't think he's cute, they're the ones with the problem.

He’s my fur baby. Furry due to his hormonal issues.

Muffsies · 17/07/2025 11:13

HangryLikeTheHulk · 17/07/2025 07:42

I’m on about my challenged migrant teenage son who likes to approach strangers and dig his nails into their chests while yelling at them and occasionally licking their faces.

Sometimes he yells at children and now and again attacks them. He doesn’t stop when I shout his name.

Most days he defecates on the floor in public, and regularly urinates on playground equipment.

And it’s fine, right ? He’s allowed to do this stuff. My definitely real challenged migrant son.

If anyone doesn't think he's cute, they're the ones with the problem.

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 10:12

ColourThief · 17/07/2025 09:49

Who made you king of the world?

For someone that apparently doesn’t have a dog you seem strangely defensive.

You carry on trying to tell everyone who doesn’t like dogs what they should do and I’ll carry on thinking it’s bullcrap.

I was recently crowned in a top secret coronation ceremony on the island of Tuvalu. And it’s queen of the world, ackshully.

For someone who doesn’t like the options I offered, you’re giving option 1 a very good go.

ColourThief · 17/07/2025 09:49

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 07:57

That’s not my problem as I don’t want to avoid them.
I gave you two other options though so if you can’t manage option 2, you always have option 3 to fall back on.

Who made you king of the world?

For someone that apparently doesn’t have a dog you seem strangely defensive.

You carry on trying to tell everyone who doesn’t like dogs what they should do and I’ll carry on thinking it’s bullcrap.

ColourThief · 17/07/2025 09:28

I hate dogs in general, so it irritates me to have to avoid the things wherever I go.
They’re bloody everywhere.

And don’t get me started on people that can’t accept any criticism of dogs or bring kids into the conversation like they’re an equal comparison… 🙄

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 09:13

Elephantiner · 17/07/2025 08:51

But the dogs that exist in our society are the lifestyle choice of the owner, not the member of the public who wants nothing to do with them. Why should the member of the public have to deal with other people’s lifestyle choices?

We all have to deal with each other’s lifestyle choices to a point.
In any case, I don’t know why you’re asking me because despite not owning a dog, I love them and I am quite happy to go to places where dogs are allowed so that’s a you problem 🤷‍♀️

hungryduck · 17/07/2025 09:11

I take it non of the "ban give breeds" brigade do risk assessments as part of their job?

You have to factor likelihood into the risk, not just harm.
So big dogs might have a high potential harm, but low probability. Therefore low risk overall.

Maltese by the sound of this thread have a lower potential harm but greater probability. Therefore the risk is higher than big breeds.

Some big breeds like XL bully's obviously have a higher probability so overall risk would be much higher (especially when you factor in no dog trainer would be insured to work with them so more likely to be poorly trained), but a well-trained German shepherd on lead is pretty much no risk whatsoever.

Onleemoi · 17/07/2025 09:10

Campaign for dog free places then. Like woman are doing to keep men out of their spaces. I don’t mean write dumb posts on here. Do something positive about it.

HangryLikeTheHulk · 17/07/2025 09:03

“Every man is a potential rapist. No men in women’s spaces !”

”Every dog is a potential child killer. They are welcome in every park, cafe, pub and high-street !”

Elephantiner · 17/07/2025 08:51

TheGreatDownandOut · 17/07/2025 07:57

That’s not my problem as I don’t want to avoid them.
I gave you two other options though so if you can’t manage option 2, you always have option 3 to fall back on.

But the dogs that exist in our society are the lifestyle choice of the owner, not the member of the public who wants nothing to do with them. Why should the member of the public have to deal with other people’s lifestyle choices?

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/07/2025 08:50

@Overtheway
Any dog has the potential to end someone's life. If you look at dog death stats you'll find a fair few terriers up there. Don't make the assumption that you could physically pick up an attacking Jack Russell or similar without sustaining life changing injury.

It is not fair to penalise large benign breeds of dog just because they "could" be dangerous. That is no more logical than calling for a ban on men who are over 12 stone because they "might" hurt you. Any dog can kill, just as any human can.

BitOutOfPractice · 17/07/2025 08:45

TheGreatDownandOut · 16/07/2025 15:04

Have you considered going to other cafes? Y’know, ones that don’t allow dogs?

Where are they exactly? They are either rare or non existent.

Im utterly ambivalent to dogs but I am increasingly aware that they are everywhere now and for those that actively don’t like them, they are very hard to avoid.

Recrbt examples I’ve witnessed first hand: dog brought to a funeral, barking incessantly as the coffin was carried in, a man outraged that he couldn’t take his dog into a theatrical performance.

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