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Constance Marten case — I feel the police have some responsibility too

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Siff · 15/07/2025 09:46

I know Constance Marten and her partner made dangerous and illegal choices, and I’m not excusing that — a baby died and that’s heartbreaking. But I can’t stop thinking about the way the case was handled and whether the police have some responsibility in how things unfolded.

As a mum of four who’s struggled mentally after birth, I keep thinking: if I had just given birth, was vulnerable, and felt like the whole world was hunting me down — would I have thought clearly? Probably not. The media coverage was intense, and the police were everywhere. The pressure must have been overwhelming.

I honestly believe the fear created by the police operation pushed them into making more and more desperate and risky decisions to stay hidden. It wasn’t just a search — it felt like a witch hunt. No safeguarding, no attempt to reach her as a vulnerable mother, just a hard push to capture and punish.

I think that approach had consequences. The police must take some responsibility for creating the kind of fear and pressure that led to this tragedy. The way they went about it likely made things worse — not better — for the baby.

It’s easy to say she was selfish or unstable, but mental health in the postnatal period is fragile. People don’t always think rationally when terrified. I just wish there had been more humanity in how it was all handled.
Anyone else feel the same?

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myissuemychoice · 15/07/2025 09:52

What I don’t understand is why he wasn’t in prison after throwing her out of a window ? If he hadn’t been around she wouldn’t have got pregnant and the whole situation would never have happened .

Dramatic · 15/07/2025 09:52

I think they were damned either way. She'd had all her children removed and I don't think they do that lightly. What choice did they have?

SriouslyWhutNow · 15/07/2025 09:52

Having read several of the BBC articles about the family that came out yesterday, I've gone from feeling like the family was hounded to feeling like they had so much previous that the police would have been wrong to go in softly-softly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11x1xgj78o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c166p6kp95ko
These people shouldn't have been anywhere near children and the police did the best they could to protect those kids.

Graphic showing Constance Marten holding a child, against a background of redacted court papers

Court papers reveal Constance Marten and Mark Gordon’s failures as parents

A years-long court case, which ended with the couple's four children being taken into care, can now be reported.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11x1xgj78o

Commonsense22 · 15/07/2025 09:50

Yes
More specifically, enforced closed adoptions which just don't work well.
They had had 4 children removed and forcefully placed for adoption. Engaging with social services had 0 chance of a happy outcome for them.

So many other countries allow open adoption and provide a chance for vulnerable parents to keep in touch with their birth parents even when these are unfit to care for them.

itsnotagameshow · 15/07/2025 09:50

I find the whole narrative about her being an 'aristocrat' really awful. There are obviously some huge mental health issues at play here. It's apparently very common for women who have had children removed to get pregnant again and again in the hope of keeping the next. It's tragic all round.

Horseebooks · 15/07/2025 09:49

Rock and a hard place for them I think. At first the statements from the police were very ‘we just want to find these people and help’ even though they would’ve had more info - but they couldn’t take it too softly as they knew a baby might die. And the baby did