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Meer77 · 14/07/2025 22:44

I have started a lunch cover job in a nursery in the last few weeks. I’m not qualified in childcare, I’m a parent myself and this is a school hour job that works well for the moment and I’m happy to be working with children, so this is a genuine question.

The child brings pack lunches, but sometimes has nursery milk. I went to pour him some at snack time and they said he can’t have it as mum is behind on paying. He really wanted some milk and I felt bad.

From the days he has been in, he has consistently had very out of best before food, for example 5 months out crisps, he didn’t eat them as they must have tasted stale and he looked disappointed. Another example, a very very black and mushy banana which again wasn’t edible. And other things too which he hasn’t eaten and have been months out from best before . No one else seems to have noticed or said anything. Would you report this to management, I feel worried about him as he’s going hungry. Btw, I’m not judging.

OP posts:
Annony331 · 15/07/2025 20:01

YesHonestly · 15/07/2025 19:18

Many parents get funded hours for nursery so don’t pay full fees.

The nursery can claim free milk

Annony331 · 15/07/2025 19:59

Whoops. Schools can get free milk at lunch time for all under 5s and for all UFSM children up to and including year 2

There is so much provided we offer it to anyone who wants it at lunch time.

Mention it to some one who understands the rules properly

CremeEggThief · 15/07/2025 19:58

OP, you sound out of your depth with this and as if you haven't had proper training or developed a clear understanding of safeguarding and "norms" in pre-school education yet.

Report your concerns to the manager and explain why you really don't think the milk should be withdrawn, but ultimately you have to detach after that.

I don't think the people telling you to disobey the "higher ups" over the milk are being very helpful, and I doubt they would be prepared to lose their jobs, if they actually were in your shoes, so please do not listen to them.

Annony331 · 15/07/2025 19:53

They

ARCmummy · 15/07/2025 19:50

Report it and pour the milk. The child doesn’t need to be punished for the parents financial.
also MASH report it anonymously.

please do something, you might save his life.

Channellingsophistication · 15/07/2025 19:49

Definitely report poor boy - pretty shocking of the nursery to deny giving him some milk even if his mum is behind with the payments.

ItsameLuigi · 15/07/2025 19:47

Proudestmumofone1 · 14/07/2025 23:19

Genuinely confused how this is even a post? Or question? Or comment?

I would be walking in tomorrow with 4 pints of milk. I would also have been raising concerns the FIRST time I had seen he did not have an edible lunch.

Safeguarding is everyone’s duty - and I thought common sense.

Yes but not everyone is aware of when to report safeguarding concerns. It's good OP asked and will now be able to go in tomorrow & report concerns. Poor kid

waterrat · 15/07/2025 19:43

Anyone who works with children should have their safeguarding needs at rhe heart of what they do

Tbh id be very concerned this wasn't being picked up by trained childcare workers

Has to last him till teatime ? And nobody is noticing?

Ladymeade · 15/07/2025 19:42

Snoodley · 14/07/2025 23:00

Give him the milk and report your concerns to your Dedicated Safeguarding Lead

100% It could be part of a wider neglect picture which should be investigated.

JLou08 · 15/07/2025 19:41

Awful nursery. If I was working there I'd pay out of my own pocket for his milk and buy him a decent lunch. I've worked in a couple of nurseries and any staff member would have done the same if it came to it, which it wouldn't because management would have it covered anyway. Given the nurseries appalling treatment, I wouldn't depend on them to be reporting concerns of neglect to social services. If I was you I would speak to management first to check if they have raised a safeguarding, if they haven't say you want them too and you want to know the outcome. If they don't, report it yourself to social services.

GiveDogBone · 15/07/2025 19:35

YesHonestly · 15/07/2025 19:18

Many parents get funded hours for nursery so don’t pay full fees.

Yes of course, but they can’t even pay part fees or feed him properly per OP.

DBSFstupid · 15/07/2025 19:26

Proudestmumofone1 · 14/07/2025 23:19

Genuinely confused how this is even a post? Or question? Or comment?

I would be walking in tomorrow with 4 pints of milk. I would also have been raising concerns the FIRST time I had seen he did not have an edible lunch.

Safeguarding is everyone’s duty - and I thought common sense.

Agree.
FFS OP do the right thing and do it quickly.

Blablibladirladada · 15/07/2025 19:26

Report it?

to the school of course. And then higher up if nothing been done. The kid needs to eat.

Miyagi99 · 15/07/2025 19:23

Meer77 · 14/07/2025 23:07

theres a couple of things he can have, but only snack bar type things, either one or two which are out of date and there is never much in his pack lunch anyway, even if it was in date. And it’s supposed to last him until tea time

Make sure they are out of date and not just over their best before date (most crisps only have a best before date) as they are meaningless. Is he from British heritage? Only because a lot of people I know will only eat their bananas black (they’re from the Caribbean originally)!

Rainbowsandmiracles · 15/07/2025 19:23

Meer77 · 14/07/2025 23:43

Not far off turning 3*

OP have you considered the food might be from a food bank? They often give best before so still edible but past the best please speak to your DSL as it will be part of a bigger picture

YesHonestly · 15/07/2025 19:18

GiveDogBone · 15/07/2025 19:14

If the parents haven’t paid, then why are the nursery letting him in? If the parents can’t afford to feed him properly why on earth do they think they can afford to send him to a private nursery? In any case, sounds a safeguarding issue that needs reporting.

Many parents get funded hours for nursery so don’t pay full fees.

YesHonestly · 15/07/2025 19:17

This absolutely needs reporting.

His lack of speech is concerning and could also point to neglect.

Please speak to your safeguarding lead first thing tomorrow OP.

Inmyhands · 15/07/2025 19:15

Id report the person who denied the child milk, that is appalling. And definitely discuss the lunchbox concerns with safeguarding lead asap.

GiveDogBone · 15/07/2025 19:14

If the parents haven’t paid, then why are the nursery letting him in? If the parents can’t afford to feed him properly why on earth do they think they can afford to send him to a private nursery? In any case, sounds a safeguarding issue that needs reporting.

caringcarer · 15/07/2025 19:11

I worked in a secondary school where a child never brought any packed lunch nor had a school lunch. He said his Mum gave him a meal each evening. I got him to help me make and sell toast at break time for charity and told him he got as much toast as he wanted free for helping me. I also took in too much fruit for my lunch and told him my DH packed it up for me and he'd be helping me out if he ate some of it as I didn't like wasting food. I'd have found a way to give the DC food. I'd have given him milk too. Report lack of food coming in for him to eat to safeguarding lead. I can remember a few years ago a small DC in reception or Year 1 starved to death, hardly ever took much food in to eat and used to try to eat the play food and take food out of the bin. No one reported this and the boy starved to death over a school holiday. I can remember thinking someone must of noticed but noone reported it or gave the DC any food. When people notice things and say nothing DC suffer and they can't fend for themselves so have to rely on adults looking out for them. I know you're in a new job and probably don't want to rock the boat but please don't let this little boy go hungry and without milk. 🙏🙏

restingbitchface30 · 15/07/2025 18:58

I’ve worked in early years settings and this needs to be reported no question. It could be that the family are really struggling and may need some extra help.
its quite cruel they aren’t giving him the milk also. I presume the government pay for his hours so any extras need paying for but it’s a bit of milk FFS. Poor child.

BluntLion · 15/07/2025 18:55

Poor little thing, what kind of nursery refuses milk ffs?

As to the state of his packed lunch box, I'd definitely report it as imo giving the child inedible and obviously stale food items is neglectful.

LittleLilac · 15/07/2025 18:48

Ah it breaks my heart, poor baby. Definitely report it, they need to do a social services referral so the family can get the support they need and there may be other children in that household at risk.

Also say to whoever is in charge this is a welfare issue so the child should be given milk even if the fees aren’t paid. A child starving on their watch is just not acceptable. If they were arsey about it I’d say well imagine if it’s on the news this poor child starved and staff wouldn’t even give him a glass of milk…people in charge tend to care more about that stuff 🙄

I don’t know your circumstances but personally I’d take food in to make sure he at least had something in his belly. I just couldn’t live with a baby being hungry and not being fed, the poor thing. That milk could be the only nutritious thing he has all day.

Lollipop81 · 15/07/2025 18:16

He’s at nursery

WWomble · 15/07/2025 18:15

You have a duty of care to report this situation. Protect this little one as they’re too little to help themselves.