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Meer77 · 14/07/2025 22:44

I have started a lunch cover job in a nursery in the last few weeks. I’m not qualified in childcare, I’m a parent myself and this is a school hour job that works well for the moment and I’m happy to be working with children, so this is a genuine question.

The child brings pack lunches, but sometimes has nursery milk. I went to pour him some at snack time and they said he can’t have it as mum is behind on paying. He really wanted some milk and I felt bad.

From the days he has been in, he has consistently had very out of best before food, for example 5 months out crisps, he didn’t eat them as they must have tasted stale and he looked disappointed. Another example, a very very black and mushy banana which again wasn’t edible. And other things too which he hasn’t eaten and have been months out from best before . No one else seems to have noticed or said anything. Would you report this to management, I feel worried about him as he’s going hungry. Btw, I’m not judging.

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Spendysis · 15/07/2025 23:56

Oh this is so sad it definitely needs reporting as a safeguard issue. I am not aware of private nursery's policies but I can't believe a child was refused a glass of milk while in their care surely give him the milk and then speak to the parents about late fees. My now adult dc didn't go to private nursery but if they forgot or lost their dinner money they were still fed and watered and then school contacted me to pay

AuntMarch · 15/07/2025 23:14

100% a safeguarding concern. Report to DSL (usually the manager, but it should be displayed somewhere who holds that role).
If you think they are not taking it seriously, you can contact the LADO in your area. Those details should also be displayed somewhere, often a staff room.

Pessismistic · 15/07/2025 22:57

The fact parent is struggling to pay and lack of food is a very big concern tell whoever runs the room you don’t think he is getting enough food to eat and they should call parents in for a chat about late payment and ask if they can supply more food and some milk. Poor kid.

Sugargliderwombat · 15/07/2025 22:54

hey op this is quite serious and absolutely needs flagging. I also would check his food and go to the manager every time something is out of date - don't let him eat it. Someone at the nursery needs to speak to the parents and refer this.

Leapintothelightning · 15/07/2025 22:27

CremeEggThief · 15/07/2025 19:58

OP, you sound out of your depth with this and as if you haven't had proper training or developed a clear understanding of safeguarding and "norms" in pre-school education yet.

Report your concerns to the manager and explain why you really don't think the milk should be withdrawn, but ultimately you have to detach after that.

I don't think the people telling you to disobey the "higher ups" over the milk are being very helpful, and I doubt they would be prepared to lose their jobs, if they actually were in your shoes, so please do not listen to them.

If someone I worked with (OP hasn’t specified it’s management) told me not to give milk to a child who was asking for milk, I absolutely would ignore them and still give that child milk, especially if the child was not eating properly!

Mackerelfillets · 15/07/2025 22:12

This is a safeguarding issue and its your duty to report it to your safeguarding lead, whoever that is. In the meantime as a human and a mum, I would bring in milk, and whatever else for the child. Poor little mite. Makes me really sad to read this.

croydon15 · 15/07/2025 22:01

How much does a cup of milk cost ? Heartless bitches to refuse a drink to a little child, please OP update us.

U53rn8m3ch8ng3 · 15/07/2025 22:01

Please do something to help this little boy. This post is so sad 😔

Geesgirl · 15/07/2025 21:58

Creme egg, I hope you're nor working in childcare. You sound mean as fuck.

There's not a person in this world that would have stopped me giving the child that milk. Anyone that wouldn't isn't human. If another adult stood in front of me and threatened to discipline me over giving a child milk I would have laughed at them.

Would you have a word with yourself.

LittleLilac · 15/07/2025 21:51

CremeEggThief · 15/07/2025 21:05

No I'm not, but to address your childish response, but I have significant experience in working in nurseries and pre-schools, so I'm sure I know more about it than you and why you can't just do what you think is right and disobey management.

Are you going to put your own hand in your pocket if she does lose her job, over following yours and other posters' "advice"?
No I didn't think so.

Point proved. That is all I have to say to posters like you.

You shouldn’t be working with children in any capacity if you think listening to management is more important than feeding a hungry child.

This is exactly why children come to harm, because people in positions with the capability to protect them turn a blind eye. “You have to detach” from your previous post. No you have to think of the poor child that needs looking after. Shameful attitude to have.

OP did the right thing to ask for advice because they haven’t received the correct safeguarding training. The person who said not give them milk might not be aware of the other details that the child is going hungry and if they did they may have themselves said give them the milk regardless. Either way that child shouldn’t be going hungry under the care of that nursery. People who stand by and watch children be neglected are just as culpable.

caringcarer · 15/07/2025 21:24

Yes that's the DC I was thinking of. I remember thinking if he's trying to eat pretend food and scavenging from bins it must be so obvious he is really hungry and seeking food. Yet no staff member raised it as a concern.

myissuemychoice · 15/07/2025 21:19

I’d have poured him a glass of milk and if told not would have said it was from my own tea/coffee milk allowance as I bet the staff have drinks. How could they do that to him poor thing

NeedToAskPlease · 15/07/2025 21:12

caringcarer · 15/07/2025 19:11

I worked in a secondary school where a child never brought any packed lunch nor had a school lunch. He said his Mum gave him a meal each evening. I got him to help me make and sell toast at break time for charity and told him he got as much toast as he wanted free for helping me. I also took in too much fruit for my lunch and told him my DH packed it up for me and he'd be helping me out if he ate some of it as I didn't like wasting food. I'd have found a way to give the DC food. I'd have given him milk too. Report lack of food coming in for him to eat to safeguarding lead. I can remember a few years ago a small DC in reception or Year 1 starved to death, hardly ever took much food in to eat and used to try to eat the play food and take food out of the bin. No one reported this and the boy starved to death over a school holiday. I can remember thinking someone must of noticed but noone reported it or gave the DC any food. When people notice things and say nothing DC suffer and they can't fend for themselves so have to rely on adults looking out for them. I know you're in a new job and probably don't want to rock the boat but please don't let this little boy go hungry and without milk. 🙏🙏

https://www.itv.com/news/2014-02-05/report-into-failings-around-daniel-pelka-death-released

CremeEggThief · 15/07/2025 21:05

Geesgirl · 15/07/2025 20:18

Are you the manager creme egg.

No I'm not, but to address your childish response, but I have significant experience in working in nurseries and pre-schools, so I'm sure I know more about it than you and why you can't just do what you think is right and disobey management.

Are you going to put your own hand in your pocket if she does lose her job, over following yours and other posters' "advice"?
No I didn't think so.

Point proved. That is all I have to say to posters like you.

Doopdoopdeedoo · 15/07/2025 20:57

Meer77 · 14/07/2025 23:10

Yes, it upset me. I could tell he really wanted some and was pointing and they just said no he can’t have it because mums behind on the charges

I would want to report the nursery for that! They get access to the free milk scheme for under 5's.

That's utterly disgraceful.

croydon15 · 15/07/2025 20:54

TheGrimSmile · 14/07/2025 23:04

What a shitty nursery to not allow a child a glass of milk. I would definitely let your manager know. This is a safeguarding issue.

This poor kid

ninjahamster · 15/07/2025 20:51

How come you checked the dates on everything? It would never occur to me to do that. If the dates are best before though, you can eat them still. I regularly buy dry goods that are past their best before dates from online discount food outlets.

The milk is an issue though, you need to talk to a manager about that. He should be given milk.

Ooodelally · 15/07/2025 20:36

Meer77 · 14/07/2025 23:10

Yes, it upset me. I could tell he really wanted some and was pointing and they just said no he can’t have it because mums behind on the charges

What kind of awful people are running this place?! Also, have you not been provided with any safeguarding training at all? This has red flags all over… poor child

Alifemoreordinary123 · 15/07/2025 20:31

Please help if you are able - mention it to your manager, pay for his milk, offer toast or whatever the nursery is allowed to as snacks, try and find a way to support his family. Absolutely breaks my heart.

neverbeenskiing · 15/07/2025 20:19

Did you not have safeguarding training when you started? As part of your induction were you not told who your DSL was and how to report your concerns to them? If new staff aren't being given basic safeguarding training then that's every bit as concerning as the child's inadequate lunches not being picked up on and the refusal to allow him milk.

Geesgirl · 15/07/2025 20:18

Are you the manager creme egg.

CremeEggThief · 15/07/2025 20:08

Geesgirl · 15/07/2025 20:02

Why didn't you give them the milk

Because she could have lost her job over it! 😤

You don't go into a job like that and do whatever you want, if management have told you otherwise.

OP, please ignore these silly posters!

BrentfordForever · 15/07/2025 20:08

Tbh OP if and when you speak to management I’d also report the staff who didn’t offer a lousy glass of milk

TTCJJB · 15/07/2025 20:05

Meer77 · 14/07/2025 22:44

I have started a lunch cover job in a nursery in the last few weeks. I’m not qualified in childcare, I’m a parent myself and this is a school hour job that works well for the moment and I’m happy to be working with children, so this is a genuine question.

The child brings pack lunches, but sometimes has nursery milk. I went to pour him some at snack time and they said he can’t have it as mum is behind on paying. He really wanted some milk and I felt bad.

From the days he has been in, he has consistently had very out of best before food, for example 5 months out crisps, he didn’t eat them as they must have tasted stale and he looked disappointed. Another example, a very very black and mushy banana which again wasn’t edible. And other things too which he hasn’t eaten and have been months out from best before . No one else seems to have noticed or said anything. Would you report this to management, I feel worried about him as he’s going hungry. Btw, I’m not judging.

I haven't read all the replies so apologies if this has been mentioned but you should have had some basic safeguarding training. This is a safeguarding concern and needs reporting to the safeguarding lead. Please do this ASAP.

Geesgirl · 15/07/2025 20:02

Why didn't you give them the milk