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To be disappointed in DD’s SATS results?

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CucumberSalads1 · 14/07/2025 22:15

I feel terrible for being disappointed, but she got 109 for maths, 109 for reading and 114 for SPAG.

She has historically always been greater depth. And I suppose I’m just concerned she’ll be streamed based on the “expected” results.

We didn’t do much prep at home at all, just looked at the odd question here and there for a week or so before.

I know these are good scores (before I get flamed)… she was just so close to greater depth and the scores aren’t that consistent with her ability.

I know I’m probably BU, but we all just want the best for our kids, don’t we? I don’t want this to hold her back in any way.

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tumblingdowntherabbithole · 15/07/2025 14:09

SATs are totally irrelevant. Loads of children don't even take them.

Bamboozled72 · 15/07/2025 14:02

My kids all did CAT tests in year 7 so this was taken into account too. Plus many schools don't set until further down the line. I think ours only set for maths in year 7.

Whatafustercluck · 15/07/2025 13:57

I hate SATs with a passion. Utterly meaningless twaddle. Save your concerns for exams that mean something.

Secondary schools run their own assessments to get a baseline of students' progress from Y7 onwards. Ds wasn't even streamed until Y8, and will be streamed again in Y10 looking back at the past 3 years in readiness for GCSEs.

vodkaredbullgirl · 15/07/2025 13:54

Yabu, SATs mean nothing.

Crunchymum · 15/07/2025 13:48

There is lots of wriggle room in year 7 so if she was put in set 2 (God forbid!) she will soon be moved if she shows she is more capable.

Catwoman8 · 15/07/2025 13:46

They don't mean a thing, listen to what everyone has said. Even if she isn't put into the top sets to begin with , the high school will do their own assessments throughout, if shes reaching GD at high school, she will be put in the top sets.

You are being unreasonable, she's 10/11 years old and it sounds like she has done amazing

Kreepture · 15/07/2025 11:17

CucumberSalads1 · 15/07/2025 11:08

I feel awful for feeling the way I do. I just wish she had maybe had a bit of luck on her side and got over the line and into the GD bracket. I know many are saying they don’t matter, but others are saying they are what is used to base future predictions and for setting ability based classes.

you don't feel awful, because if you did you'd let it go.

Clearly results are more important to you than anything else.

Honestly, being disappointed in your childs SATS results should be a real wake up call for you to address your own feelings around standards and results.

You should be celebrating her, not being disappointed.

Give yourself a wobble, you're being dreadful.

CucumberSalads1 · 15/07/2025 11:08

I feel awful for feeling the way I do. I just wish she had maybe had a bit of luck on her side and got over the line and into the GD bracket. I know many are saying they don’t matter, but others are saying they are what is used to base future predictions and for setting ability based classes.

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PennyRest · 15/07/2025 01:52

I’d forgotten SATS! One of my DC missed them because of Covid. The teachers placed them
in sets at Secondary based on the recommendation from Primary and I’d say it was pretty accurate. I think the other didn’t have to do SPAG that year. I don’t think it’s made any difference to either of them at all!

DurinsBane · 15/07/2025 01:39

Year six SATs or year nine SATs?
if you wanted her to do better, why didn’t you get her to do revision at home?

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 15/07/2025 01:18

When my Year 2 kid asked me what SATS were I told her that it was the government's way of testing her teachers on how well they were teaching her.

Bunnycat101 · 15/07/2025 01:12

Our school gets amazing sats. I’ve since realised it’s a combination of a) kids who have been prepped for 11 plus so have had intense tuition for tests 6 months before sats (so nothing to do with the school) and b) intensive cramming sessions including breakfast classes for year 6 (which isn’t necessarily good either due to pressure and uneven resource allocation).

Some of the kids in the pool have had a lot of extra tuition. Your child hasn’t by the sounds of it.

fireplaceember · 15/07/2025 01:10

Just don’t say anything
i still remember my mum saying “don’t tell anyone about your B at GCSE, it makes your results look bad”

ILoveMyCaravan · 15/07/2025 00:44

SATS DO NOT MATTER!!

My DC didn’t take them. They are both in successful careers and happy.

bizzare · 14/07/2025 23:57

bzarda · 14/07/2025 22:59

As a secondary school teacher, we test multiple times across the year and sets move around constantly in the core subjects. I couldn't tell you what any of my students got in their SATs. We don't care. They are used as a measure to monitor schools and ensure students make progress from primary to secondary, they won't hold her back in the slightest.

They are also used to generate target grades for GCSE though, and it's incredibly stupid. My son aced his SATs as they require no extended writing and a lot of the SPAG paper is multiple choice. (Dyslexia/Dyspraxia, very bright but spelling is awful, reading quirky low average, very teachable to the test it turns out!) He finished primary about two years behind expected level in writing. So unsurprisingly he is constantly 'failing' English and humanities subjects at secondary as the 7-9 target is hugely unrealistic. Add to that how absolutely ridiculous it is that they would generate your Art or Music target from SATs... the whole system is crazy.

But yes, unless you are a child with a particular type of learning difference like DS they don't matter. In our experience though you are much better off under achieving in SATs than overachieving!

HexagonSun · 14/07/2025 23:43

This was a while ago (2002) but when I started secondary school SATs didn’t matter, and every year we were reshuffled according to results.

HOWEVER year 7 CATs mattered more than I ever could of imagined. No idea if this is normal practice in other schools but my school used our CATs scores to rank every pupil in the year and the ranking stayed with you throughout school. The top 10% of this ranking were given all sorts of exclusive opportunities no one else was allowed to attend- critical thinking lessons, day trips, extra curricular activities, guest lectures, competitions etc etc.

Most of this was provided in year 10 and 11, but used year 7 CATs results to allocate them. Seems wildly unfair, looking back.

Blank1234 · 14/07/2025 23:36

Mischance · 14/07/2025 22:31

Write out 100 times ....

SATs do not matter
SATs do not matter
SATs do not matter ...................

Exactly this.

Hankunamatata · 14/07/2025 23:19

Doesn't matter. Even if she is streamed she can shine in secondary.
I bombed whatever test they did in primary - highly anxious, bullied, immature, bottomish in nearly all sets. I bloomed when I moved to secondary. Top sets for everything. Ita just suited me better than chaotic classrooms of primary.

Smugzebra · 14/07/2025 23:19

I'm proud of my child (who scored lower sats that that). I'm proud that they sat and tried their best. I'm proud that they are kind, funny, talented at other things.

I know that the schools use them to put into sets for maths but i don't really care because....

I also know that if they are finding the work in that set easy, and scoring high on the work set, they will move up in to a higher one. If they are struggling in that set, they will move down.

I also know that it's just the governments rudimentary way of measuring the ability of the school to teach.

What did I get in mine? I have absolutely no idea!!! What did my older child get? Again, absolutely no clue!!! Can't remember. Don't care....

Kaleidoscope101 · 14/07/2025 23:14

So SATS are an assessment of how a child has progressed in their learning from year 2 to year 6.
They are used to assess the teaching of the school.
They count for nothing for the child.
Secondary schools will do their own assessments for sets

onlymethen · 14/07/2025 23:13

Past SATs the highest achieving children in our family with Doctorates and Masters are very sadly the lowest achievers in life. Financially they have everything but peace and happiness. Don’t be that parent that thinks academic achievements are everything.

OFHelp · 14/07/2025 23:09

OP how does your DD feel about her results?
The pressure on these kids at 10 and 11 is unreal. I'm a strong believer in as long as you try your best then that is amazing no matter what the result. Unfortunately despite schools saying they are "just tests that don't matter" their behaviour and teaching around them is the complete opposite of that. My ds got his results last week (reading 116, maths 118 and spag 118) these are absolutely AMAZING however he is feeling bad because he thinks his reading score is low!!!! The teachers had apparently predicted him 118 in reading from his mocks so he thinks he's let them down!!! Its an absolute joke that he feels this way and I'm going to meet with them before the end of term to relay this to them!!!!

Ineedmorewine03 · 14/07/2025 23:07

TheFrendo · 14/07/2025 23:06

A SPAG of 114 comes from a raw score of 59/70. It is very good.

These scaled scores are not out of 120, they range from 80 to 120.

n my view they are designed to mislead.

A child who gets 20/70 would be given a scaled score of 93. This is quite a way short of the 'expected standard' and the child would have little chance of getting a GCSE pass (4). But, 93 sounds quite high. A parent who is not aware may think it is a good score.

This is so sad and what is wrong with our system

very little change is getting 4 at GCSE already dictated by age 11 :(

TheFrendo · 14/07/2025 23:06

zeddybrek · 14/07/2025 22:24

Are these marks out of 120?
So SPAG equates to 95%, that is incredible!
But as a former teacher and parent of a year 6 child, SATs really don't matter.

A SPAG of 114 comes from a raw score of 59/70. It is very good.

These scaled scores are not out of 120, they range from 80 to 120.

n my view they are designed to mislead.

A child who gets 20/70 would be given a scaled score of 93. This is quite a way short of the 'expected standard' and the child would have little chance of getting a GCSE pass (4). But, 93 sounds quite high. A parent who is not aware may think it is a good score.

Ineedmorewine03 · 14/07/2025 23:06

YABU and hope you haven’t shown her disappointment they are great scores

my daughter got
107 , 98 and 99 and was an incredible achievement for her - everyone super proud !