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Friend simply won't stop messaging!

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smmontana · 14/07/2025 22:01

Hi all. Looking for some advice. My husband died at the end of 2023, but due to complexities and legal issues, I am still dealing with his estate. Initially, it was largely due to COVID delays that meant paperwork was backed up by certain jurisdictions/appropriate parties. Things are now moving apace, but because he was a dual citizen, I’m dealing with admin issues/tax issues in two countries as well as properties etc…

Anyway, that was just a bit of ‘background’.

I have a friend who I’ve explained to that I’m quite burnt out due to all the things going on in my life.

However, he keeps texting me about 8 times a day (on average)… and will not stop.

I feel pathetic typing such a post like this as it feels a bit lame and very ‘high school’. At one point, I had 58 unread messages in a week. I then had another 37 unread messages in the next 5 days. Now I have 8 unread messages.

I explained politely that I had a lot on and that I was abroad/busy/dealing with a lot of trauma (my husband died unexpectedly). He has continued to text me very banal stuff. Stuff about his breakfast, lunch, dinner, trips, house, Summer, travels, cat etc… I appreciate the check-ins - but also said I couldn’t read/respond to everything right now. I have only responded when I've been in the headspace to do so.

Losing my husband taught me a lot about the finality and fragility of life and I’m genuinely not someone that has conflict with anyone, but I’ve found myself getting increasingly agitated every time I see a message from him - especially given that I have asked for space and said I was busy. I also said that I would respond once I had more time/was in a better headspace and even better time zone.

I muted any notifications/messages and told him so too. But that didn’t deter him. He then started sending me silly videos on Instagram (daily), which I rarely use. I’m not a ‘social media savvy’ person. He then emailed me. The last message I have asked: ‘Are you back yet?’ I know this as despite muting and turning notifications off, he still texts daily. I really don’t want any bad blood with him - and I really am aware of how much my life has changed since my DH died. I know grief is a process - and unfortunately, I don’t feel like I’ve ‘fully grieved’ as yet, if that makes sense. I don’t think I could be clearer in my stating I needed space, but I am getting increasingly riled up in feeling that my ask hasn’t been respected. To be clear, I’ve always asked if he is ok/needs anything etc… but everything (according to him) is great on his side.

I know I’m going to get a lot of responses saying: ‘Grow up! BLOCK!’ and/or people saying I’m a ‘wuss’ or a bit ‘pathetic’. I value this person’s friendship, but this behaviour is becoming increasingly unhinged and I hate to use this term - but it’s giving me the ‘ick’.

Any advice? Please be kind in responses as I’m going through it right now.

OP posts:
ScupperedbytheSea · 15/07/2025 10:21

I agree with many of the posters above who are saying this is stalking territory, and the fact you have told him to scale it back and he hasn't is unacceptable.

I would steer clear of any response that makes it sound like you're not coping in general, that you're sorry or you value him.

Keep it simple, maybe something like "x, I've asked you before to stop sending me so many messages. In the past week alone, you've me X many messages. I'm asking you for the final time to stop."

And then block if he continues.

BlueandPinkSwan · 15/07/2025 10:17

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 14/07/2025 22:08

Im very sorry for your loss

I cant help but wonder if he is sniffing around to move in on a wealthy widow.

!00% agree, all started after h died. I'd be letting this one go, he sounds a complete pita, trampling over your emotions, possibly trying to cheer you up with the silly videos, but who needs that in your situation?
Doesn't seem to have any filter whatsoever. I wouldn't bother reading stuff from him and telling him I'll et back ini touch when I'm ready.
This comes across as harassment, why the hell does he think this is okay to do this? Seems more about him, a real friend wouldn't do this, they would give you the space you need and would help in a productive way, not pestering.

LuckyManifestations · 15/07/2025 10:16

Katiesaidthat · 15/07/2025 08:49

And why do you think that is? perhaps others have had to put boundaries in place. I would be quite blunt, I am, when pushed. I find it works.

You are right Katiesaidthat
We have had conversations about how he finds fault with every single person who comes into his life.
Ive known his over 20 years, and been there through 10s of disastrous relationships, where the other person is always the problem Hmm
I have stopped physically meeting up with him after a few occasions of him being rude to staff in shops and restaurants on our trips that left me feeling so uncomfortable for them, and so angry at him that the day was ruined.

Apologies op for derailing your thread. I really needed to talk about this but was scared of starting a thread about it incase of being accused of being a horrible person.
I hope you find a resolution.

namechangeaaargh · 15/07/2025 10:12

He's not a friend, he's an obsessive stalking entitled cunt who has no respect for your boundaries.

If you had blocked him you wouldn't be seeing his messages any more. So block his number, and for the email set up a mailbox rule that deletes anything from him as soon as it is received.

If he knows where you live and you think he might come round once you stop engaging with his messages, get a doorbell camera and report him to the police for harassment. If he only has phone number and email address then perhaps police aren't necessary.

Some of the drafted replies above are deranged - you should never use the words "sorry" or "please" or "dear x" or any of that sort of people pleasing language with cunts like this. They will see absolutely any response as a green light to carry on or even up the ante.

Women are not obliged to listen to anyone else's problems or engage with anyone or be anyone's friend or read drivel about what someone had for breakfast or put up with harassment or do any of the nonsense that's expected of us especially by men (but often by other women too).

I am sorry for your loss, and that you are having to deal with this arsehole at what is probably the worst time in your life. And I am sorry if this reply seems angry - it is, I am angry at men like this, not at you.

Bobblebiscuits296 · 15/07/2025 10:03

MissDoubleU · 14/07/2025 23:30

“You are overwhelming and upsetting me at the most difficult time of my life. If you can’t back off when requested and respect where I am in my life right now you are not a good friend at all. I will be forced to block you to get some space but I would rather you simply listen and understand that all your messages are too much. Please stop, I won’t ask nicely again”

^^. This is perfect!

So sorry for your loss op.

I have a family member who is constantly sending WhatsApp messages and I find it stressful as it is always somehow on my to do list to reply to him, so I completely understand where you are coming from op, and it must be even more distressing when you are going through the stress of grief. And all of the paper work associated with bereavement.

I am sorry that you have to do this but I think you are going to have to assert yourself very forcefully and tell him in no uncertain terms to stop. He is either praying on you deliberately, or has the hide of a rhinoceros or both,

lifeonmars100 · 15/07/2025 09:52

I am so sorry to read about the loss of your husband and all that you have been through. This man is nothing but a drain on your time and your emotions. As others have said, a real friend, that is a friend who truly cares for you would do as you have asked. This alone demonstrates he is not a genuine friend. You sound so kind and thoughtful and he sounds the total opposite. Would you consider changing your number? That would be one way of stoppping the messages. This can be a hassle but it would get him out off your phone

Rh0dedenr0n · 15/07/2025 09:51

smmontana · 14/07/2025 22:08

He wasn't always like this, believe it or not!

Since my husband died, he's upped the texts tenfold though. He was good to me in my 'early days' of grief (it still feels like 'early days' in my 'grief journey' in truth) - but something has changed - and it is in tandem with a lot of awful admin I've got to do. He's really upped the ante. He genuinely wasn't like this before my DH died.

Edited

He wants a relationship with you. If you dont want one with him you need to be incredibly firm, and probably cut him out of your life.

DiggingHoles · 15/07/2025 09:48

OP, this is harassment, plain and simple.

  1. He started doing this after your husband died. Suggests ulterior motives and it's hugely disrespectful to both you and your late husband.
  2. You ask him to contact you less and he just keeps going. Blatant boundary violation.
  3. If you block him he contacts you via other platforms.

At this point he is trying to wear you down. He wants a relationship by any means necessary, that much is clear. His behavior is a massive red flag.

Personally I would block him on everything, but don't be surprised if he shows up in person when you do. Preserve. He will eventually learn that his behavior does not pay off.

You might also want to read 'The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker. If worst gets to worst, contact the police. Keep a record of all communication attempts in the meanwhile.

diddl · 15/07/2025 09:46

I value this person’s friendship,

Like others I am wondering why.

He doesn't seem to value you at all.

He may have been ok in the past but he absolutely isn't now & he isn't listening to you either & making sure that he does what he wants.

What makes you think he will ever improve from this?

Roselilly36 · 15/07/2025 09:40

Verging on harassment, a genuine friend wouldn’t do this. Just block. He isn’t a friend. Sorry you are having such a tough time OP.

MagpiePi · 15/07/2025 09:32

JFDIYOLO · 15/07/2025 08:16

If you do decide to message him again once more to state your position, rather than just blocking, be mindful of how you word it.

'Dear ..' - he will take that as an endearment, and assume.

'I'm sorry ...' that's female socialisation to be nice, be kind, placate, bla bla bla.

And we don't apologise for having or exerting our boundaries. This is a statement of intent.

'Please ...' Sounds like you're asking, begging, requesting a favour.

Strip out all the minimising, softening #bekind language. Imagine you're a solicitor.

Yes, you see him as a friend - but he sees you as something else and is disrespecting you. Friends don't do that, controllers do.

And there is a reason he doesn't appear to have any other friends.

I agree with this approach.

Be blunt and don't say anything about being in touch in the future.

noidea69 · 15/07/2025 09:32

sounds to me like he wants to be your shoulder to cry on, at which point he'll probably try and shag you.

LizzieLazzie · 15/07/2025 09:28

GripGetter I’m sorry to say that my father in law has behaved like this to three widows and is now moving on to another one. The only thing that stopped him with the first one was her son phoning him and telling him to stop as he was causing her great distress. Sadly, some of these pushy, insensitive men only respond to another man as they see women as weak and fair game.

Epidote · 15/07/2025 09:18

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 14/07/2025 22:08

Im very sorry for your loss

I cant help but wonder if he is sniffing around to move in on a wealthy widow.

100% agree. Block and move. He doesn't bother much about your struggles does he?

snowmichael · 15/07/2025 09:17

Tell him you are taking a break from all messaging, and block him
You can always unblock later if you want to see if he's learned a lesson

GAJLY · 15/07/2025 09:04

I have a friend like this. She lost her job and increased the number her of messages! I was over whelmed with them. At first I muted them. But when it came to replying to them once a day, I still felt over whelmed with the number of them. I told her in the end that i was sorry but don't have as much free time to respond to all the messages. I would reply the day after and only to one of the messages, I'd ignore the rest. I get far less now which is great.

whitewineandsun · 15/07/2025 08:54

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 14/07/2025 22:08

Im very sorry for your loss

I cant help but wonder if he is sniffing around to move in on a wealthy widow.

Sorry for your loss, OP.

This is my first thought.

valentinka31 · 15/07/2025 08:54

smmontana · 14/07/2025 22:56

@Teanbiscuits33 Hi. Thank you for your post. I did exactly this (your suggestion) but to no change. I also archived his messages in WhatsApp (which takes the messages off your main screen). I still have multiple unread messages though. Nothing changed.

I think people are right that you should now say:

X, I am not sure what's going on, but I've told you I can't cope with messages at the moment, and you keep sending me multiple messages every day. Please stop. I'm not going to be able to read or respond to any of them. I cannot.

etc.

Really make it a billion per cent clear. Spell it out.

Morgenrot25 · 15/07/2025 08:52

I appreciate your friendship, and your concern but the level of messages coming from you is overwhelming for me. Please stop sending so many, there's no way I can read them, nevermind reply to them.

Katiesaidthat · 15/07/2025 08:52

OP, just block. Sometimes it has to be simple and straightforward for someone too thick skinned to get the hint. And yes, he fancies you.

Stifledlife · 15/07/2025 08:51

I imagine he is doing what is recommended for a grieving friend. He is just keeping in contact.. as you say, banal stuff that you don't have to respond to. This is just so you know he's there and when he asked in you were back yet, it was his way of asking if you were coming out of your grief.
He sound slike an amazing friend who is unconditionally there for you and just wants you to know he is.

Katiesaidthat · 15/07/2025 08:49

LuckyManifestations · 14/07/2025 23:34

Thank you.
Another friend has said the same, but I feel so mean just ignoring him. He literally has noone 😏

And why do you think that is? perhaps others have had to put boundaries in place. I would be quite blunt, I am, when pushed. I find it works.

Notsuchafattynow · 15/07/2025 08:36

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 14/07/2025 22:08

Im very sorry for your loss

I cant help but wonder if he is sniffing around to move in on a wealthy widow.

My thoughts too, unfortunately. Wants to keep you for himself, hence the non stop contact.

PrioritisePleasure24 · 15/07/2025 08:33

You don’t have to fake brothers texts or send long winded stories or be apologetic again and again.

You send one message however you put it you need to be firm and tell him that youve already asked him to stop and if the abundance of messages/emails/social media posts continue you will block him on it all and the friendship will be over.

Justkeepingplatesspinning · 15/07/2025 08:31

First and most importantly, I'm very sorry for your loss. Grief admin is never ending, complete nightmare!
Your friend isn't really a true one. He reminds me of a dog sniffing around a bitch in heat. He wasn't attentive until you were widowed, which says to me that he is looking to audition you to be his housekeeper. AKA new wife.
You need to block him. He's not taken any notice of you being polite, it's the only way to stop him being a pest. That amount of messages would be classed as harassment in some contexts. I'm not convinced it's not the right way to describe it here too.

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