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To think my mum was ridiculous about a slice of pie

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BeachPossum · 14/07/2025 11:50

My son and I made a beautiful rhubarb and strawberry pie a couple of days ago, and I shared a photo of it on our family WhatsApp (parents, siblings and partners).

Yesterday afternoon my mum dropped by unexpectedly after visiting a friend nearby. I offered her a cup of tea and a biscuit and she said 'oh no, I'll have a slice of that lovely pie'. I said 'oh sorry! It's all been eaten', to which she responded with the most exaggerated display of astonishment and surprise. She kept saying 'REALLY! A whole pie in ONE DAY?', saying it would have done her and my dad for a week, we must have had huge slices etc. She made five or six comments in total.

The first time she commented I told her my in laws had been over so between them and us we'd eaten five slices, then my husband had had another piece in the afternoon following a 55km bike ride, and then the three of us had had a piece for morning coffee that day, totalling 9 slices of a normal sized pie. Not a crazy amount. Then when she kept on going on about it I tried to brush it off and move on, before eventually snapping at her to stop talking about food and appetites in front of my young children, at which point she left in a huff. She has texted me this morning to let me know she's hurt, she was just surprised, and that she wasn't saying anything inappropriate in front of the children.

She has absolute form for this. She's one of those people who always has to have the smallest appetite in the room, loves talking about meals she's forgotten to eat, loves refusing food. I was stunned she asked for a slice of pie in the first place since ninety nine times out of a hundred she refuses anything I offer her and makes a point of telling me she's totally full after a huge breakfast of one blini and a quail's egg. She's permanently on a diet, obsessed with food but never eats any, thinks that thinness is next to godliness etc. I've learned to live with it but I'll be damned if me and my children will accept being treated as revolting gluttons for eating two slices of pie over two days.

Anyway, the dilemma. She's incredibly defensive and will go nuclear if I try and get her to take any accountability. I swallow a lot of her shit for the sake of family harmony, and I'm at peace with this because she and I now have a very superficial relationship and I let her crap wash over me. But it's going to get to the point of affecting my children and when that happens I'll have to intervene and accept the fallout. So what do I say to her now? She's expecting an apology from me for snapping and reassurance that she's a lovely mother and granny who was treated unfairly. Do I:

  1. Give her an insincere apology to get her to fuck off and leave me alone
  2. text something very neutral like 'let's not row over pie' and hope she drops it
  3. tell her she was being ridiculous and that it's part of a wider pattern of behaviour that I won't tolerate in front of my kids, and deal with whatever histrionics and drama follows
  4. other suggestions welcome
OP posts:
Blueskybluesky1 · 14/07/2025 16:48

I’d be making lots of pies over the future months, flaunted on Social media and there would simply be none available when she finally repeats her behaviour.
Either the message will sink in and or it wont.

Insert pun about humble pie…

Stelly8 · 14/07/2025 16:48

Let her stew for a bit then if she doesn’t get in touch I’d message in a few days apologising for snapping but making it clear why. She’s in the wrong - my aunt is exactly like this and her son had bulimia after his entire childhood and adolescence was spent listening to comments like this. I hate eating in her company as it feels like she’s keeping tally of how much everyone eats.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 14/07/2025 16:45

Dominoeffecter · 14/07/2025 15:38

She didn’t want that pie, just wanted to find out how much you eaten so she could crow. Option number 2, she’s being ridiculous.

Yes in retrospect I think this is right.

The whole thing was a set up to see how much pie you’d eaten.

OneNewLeader · 14/07/2025 16:45

Out of interest, what would you apologise for?
Sorry I ate my own pie?

Way too much drama, take the option that will move you both on, you onto a place where you see her a lot, lot less. Her to wherever.

SilverHammer · 14/07/2025 16:43

BeachPossum · 14/07/2025 15:43

Your first paragraph is very reasonable, but YABU for the second, strawberry and rhubarb is a heavenly combination! I highly recommend you take a chance on it 😉

My mother in law always made an apple and strawberry pie which seemed strange to me but was delicious. I don't know why it seemed so strange as you have all sorts of other fruit with apple. I just hadn't come across it before.

FckTheSchGateHuns · 14/07/2025 16:40

3
She'll sulk, she'll shout... but honestly if she wants to be ridiculous let her, and laugh at her.
Yes it will cause chaos but sometimes you need to let these kinds of mothers (yes I have one) feel the consequences of their constant attention seeking.
You said it's a pattern of behaviour, if you let it continue it'll escalate.

Heronwatcher · 14/07/2025 16:39

I definitely wouldn’t apologise.

I’d probably ignore the message and see what happened- but also wouldn’t be inviting her over again any time soon. Especially any time close to morning coffee/ lunch.

If she questioned me in person I would just sigh in an exaggerated way and change the subject as many times as necessary.

CiaoMeow · 14/07/2025 16:30

DeanStockwelll · 14/07/2025 11:58

She says it would of lasted a full week between her and your dad , so half a pie each
But you split it between your in-laws ,you, your ds and dh so the pie ways split 5 ways which no matter what time frame you ate it over you still ate less than she would of , and she is calling you greedy???

Loving your cool, logical approach!

ThatchedCottageOwner · 14/07/2025 16:23

If you try to appease her in any way she'll see it as a victory for her.

I'd ignore it. 100%.

BarilynBordeaux · 14/07/2025 16:23

My mum used to do this all the time. One day I snapped and simply told her I was so sorry she had an eating disorder at 65, and how very hard it was for women of her generation to have a normal relationship with food. Absolutely saturated her in a kind of neutral pity. She’s never brought up being ‘naughty’ or ‘greedy’ again.

Sunflowersinthesummer · 14/07/2025 16:22

Womblingmerrily · 14/07/2025 11:56

Don't apologise. Snapping was the natural consequence of her being a complete dick, repeatedly.

See her less and if she asks why, tell her 'I'm worried about the way you talk so negatively about food around my children.'

This don’t apologise and don’t contact her when she contacts you - ask for an apology ‘I hope you are phoning to apologise for your constant negative comments about pie’ big pause….

on repeat.

My mother (not in contact) is slightly overweight but will feed me one piece of ham, two leaves and maybe 3 chips saying oh gosh that’s enough to fill everyone up - then she’s eats an entire chocolate cake on her own - literally would see it go down slice by slice, meanwhile making negative comments ….

and don’t have her on social media either btw

ThatchedCottageOwner · 14/07/2025 16:22

Don't say sorry, you have nothing to be sorry for.

Ignore the whole thing - she's a toddler having a tantrum.

TheAmusedQuail · 14/07/2025 16:20

Do 1/2 and 1/2. Say something along the lines of 'I'm sorry I snapped. But your competitive undereating and obsession with dieting and food is inappropriate around my children.'

She'll take the huff. But wait for her to get over it or she'll just feel justified in continuing to do it.

EveryChairIsWobbly · 14/07/2025 16:16

Do you have to reply? She’s saying she’s hurt, that’s simply her emotion. Her telling you her emotion seems to pull you to action. (like a well rehearsed script)

For a change, could you do nothing, but a day later text her about something completely different? “Hi mum, just letting you know we bumped into cousin Bob yesterday, he says hi!” Just don’t respond to the hurt comment and see what happens.

FOJN · 14/07/2025 16:15

I wouldn't get involved with head games or drama. I'd text back to say "OK, get in touch when you're ready to move on" and then enjoy the peace whilst she deals with the fact you are refusing to take responsibility for her feelings.

ContraryNoodle · 14/07/2025 16:14

Number 4, ignore the dozy wombat completely. Do not reward her crap behaviour.

Swapozorro · 14/07/2025 16:13

Namechangerage · 14/07/2025 16:07

“Sorry if you were offended by my comment. I thought I had explained why the pie ran out and didn’t want to keep going over it.”

You say sorry, but it’s that kind of half sorry that’s a bit ambiguous 🤣

I like this!

and then severely limit how much you tell her in the future.

set up a separate group with your MIL.

as I mentioned earlier my mum is a similar nightmare and my poor sister has fallen into the same trap over the years by over sharing. Even if you think it’s the most innocuous thing, my mum will find a way of criticising, or making it about her, or being offended or getting angry, or listening to her say ‘well I wouldn’t have done that’ etc

Its really hard and rage inducing to have to do this with your own mother but it’s necessary to preserve sanity.

PM me if you want to vent further. I really do understand how awful it is!

Longsight2019 · 14/07/2025 16:11

You have my sympathy on this. My mum goes on and on about people drinking, when she’s been married to a functioning alcoholic for decades who puts booze before anyone or
anything.

She’s also a huge fattist, and comments on her close friends and how much they eat and how they gain or lose weight.

When challenged recently it’s as though I was making it up as she wouldn’t have any of it. Until I insisted I hadn’t dreamt it. Whilst it was uncomfortable and brought us close to having a row, she did concede and I think that’s what they need every now and then. Challenge.

At what point do these people become like this? Or have they always been?

Namechangean · 14/07/2025 16:11

Jennyathemall · 14/07/2025 12:27

That’s a long post about a slice of pie

It’s not about a slice of pie though is it. It’s about a woman trying to navigate a complex and difficult relationship with her mum. Very reductive and dismissive to leave such a comment

YourFunnyTiger · 14/07/2025 16:10

And waste a slice on her to only have a mouthful and say "oh I couldn't possibly eat the WHOLE slice" ? Tell her to fuck off

CremeEggThief · 14/07/2025 16:10

OonaStubbs · 14/07/2025 16:03

A pie should not have 9 slices it should have an even number.

Ooh can you please explain why? I've never ever heard of this "rule" before!
Is it the same for cake?! 🤔😉

BettyCrockerClinic · 14/07/2025 16:09

I was stunned she asked for a slice of pie in the first place since ninety nine times out of a hundred she refuses anything I offer her and makes a point of telling me she's totally full after a huge breakfast of one blini and a quail's egg.

She asked for a slice so that she could say “Just a small piece please” and then, even if you cut it with a vegetable peeler, gasp in horror and cry “A smaaaaaall piece, I said! Not even half of that!”. Then, of course, making a big exhibition of not being able to finish the huge piece you had given her.

She would probably have thrown in a “Goodness, not much left, is there? You must have been VERY hungry!” for good measure. She was probably reaching for the Tena Lady in excitement when she realised the whole thing was gone.

Namechangerage · 14/07/2025 16:07

“Sorry if you were offended by my comment. I thought I had explained why the pie ran out and didn’t want to keep going over it.”

You say sorry, but it’s that kind of half sorry that’s a bit ambiguous 🤣

Namechangean · 14/07/2025 16:05

IPM · 14/07/2025 12:15

Eh? I already said how you should've responded in the post you quoted?

'REALLY! A whole pie in ONE DAY?'

"Yeah, quite a few people had some, not just us".

The end 🤷‍♂️

No need to entertain any more conversation about it after that.

Yet here you are saying it's exhausting but at the same time, rehashing it all again and discussing it all here.

It seems to be you that lacks the comprehension skills. Because that was the end for OP, until her DM made another 4 comments. She can’t control her DM, so your suggestion that it should have ended there was out of OPs control

diddl · 14/07/2025 16:04

If you ever think you have snapped or been unkind Op, remember this that you posted

she's the reason I have weekly therapy and has been a source of untold hurt and confusion in my life.

If she wasn't your mum you'd have booted her out of your life long ago.

The fact that she is your Mum makes it so much worse.

She should love you unconditionally.

She doesn't deserve to have you or your kids in her life.

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