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To think my mum was ridiculous about a slice of pie

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BeachPossum · 14/07/2025 11:50

My son and I made a beautiful rhubarb and strawberry pie a couple of days ago, and I shared a photo of it on our family WhatsApp (parents, siblings and partners).

Yesterday afternoon my mum dropped by unexpectedly after visiting a friend nearby. I offered her a cup of tea and a biscuit and she said 'oh no, I'll have a slice of that lovely pie'. I said 'oh sorry! It's all been eaten', to which she responded with the most exaggerated display of astonishment and surprise. She kept saying 'REALLY! A whole pie in ONE DAY?', saying it would have done her and my dad for a week, we must have had huge slices etc. She made five or six comments in total.

The first time she commented I told her my in laws had been over so between them and us we'd eaten five slices, then my husband had had another piece in the afternoon following a 55km bike ride, and then the three of us had had a piece for morning coffee that day, totalling 9 slices of a normal sized pie. Not a crazy amount. Then when she kept on going on about it I tried to brush it off and move on, before eventually snapping at her to stop talking about food and appetites in front of my young children, at which point she left in a huff. She has texted me this morning to let me know she's hurt, she was just surprised, and that she wasn't saying anything inappropriate in front of the children.

She has absolute form for this. She's one of those people who always has to have the smallest appetite in the room, loves talking about meals she's forgotten to eat, loves refusing food. I was stunned she asked for a slice of pie in the first place since ninety nine times out of a hundred she refuses anything I offer her and makes a point of telling me she's totally full after a huge breakfast of one blini and a quail's egg. She's permanently on a diet, obsessed with food but never eats any, thinks that thinness is next to godliness etc. I've learned to live with it but I'll be damned if me and my children will accept being treated as revolting gluttons for eating two slices of pie over two days.

Anyway, the dilemma. She's incredibly defensive and will go nuclear if I try and get her to take any accountability. I swallow a lot of her shit for the sake of family harmony, and I'm at peace with this because she and I now have a very superficial relationship and I let her crap wash over me. But it's going to get to the point of affecting my children and when that happens I'll have to intervene and accept the fallout. So what do I say to her now? She's expecting an apology from me for snapping and reassurance that she's a lovely mother and granny who was treated unfairly. Do I:

  1. Give her an insincere apology to get her to fuck off and leave me alone
  2. text something very neutral like 'let's not row over pie' and hope she drops it
  3. tell her she was being ridiculous and that it's part of a wider pattern of behaviour that I won't tolerate in front of my kids, and deal with whatever histrionics and drama follows
  4. other suggestions welcome
OP posts:
neilyoungismyhero · 14/07/2025 15:03

Bake her a smaller pie!

LaurieFairyCake · 14/07/2025 15:03

Or secret option number 5

”fuck off, I’m sick of you wanging on about your disordered eating in front of all of us, it’s boring and I don’t want the kids hearing it”

LaurieFairyCake · 14/07/2025 15:01

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CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 14/07/2025 14:59

I can’t be doing with people who try to make others feel greedy / fat / shit about food. Your pie. Your appetite. Anything more than a passing comment is definitely getting into territory where someone else’s weird food hang ups are being impolitely offloaded onto other people.

itsnotagameshow · 14/07/2025 14:57

Mojitoscoladas · 14/07/2025 13:49

i agree 💯 with your comment about it mostly dying out with boomers - I’m in my 50s and my parents/stepparents/in-laws are all in their 70s and 80s, and they are (or were when they were alive) obsessed with the virtue of being slim, it’s definitely the case for them that being overweight/having a good appetite is an issue of morality/greed and it’s caused me personally no small amount of confidence-battering.

Obvs I’m not saying that all over 60s think like that, just that the ‘slim’ obsessiveness is particularly prevalent in that generation.

Having said that, we know two people in their early fifties who are pretty judgemental re eating so maybe some of those opinions have - sadly - been successfully passed down and will survive.

I still find it incredible how delighted my mother is to leave food on her plate, she will do a fake apology of it being too much (even through she served the portion herself) and looks around as if she’s waiting for us all to cheer, applaud and high five her for her teeny tiny appetite 🙄

I agree too. My mother is in her 80s, and when she has something like (gasp) a croissant at a cafe she will puff her cheeks out and say 'I'm being so naughty' - my attitude is well, if you want it have it, if you don't, then don't, either way FGS don't make a song and dance about it.

Her friends are equally as bad, she recently went to lunch and said she thought she'd have some pizza and her (similarly aged) friend said oh you don't need that, have a salad. It's so joyless.

She recently took a friend supermarket shopping and wouldn't stop going on about how much food said recently widowed friend had bought - I mean, what business is it of hers?? She also talks about that friends 'Buddha belly' in front of her. Depressing.

BeachPossum · 14/07/2025 14:57

Thank you all, just catching up! I'm about to share the rhubarb strawberry pie recipe in gratitude ☺️

OP posts:
ObliviousCoalmine · 14/07/2025 14:55

Option 3. If you keep letting them get away with it, or only gets worse.

Daygloboo · 14/07/2025 14:47

BeachPossum · 14/07/2025 11:50

My son and I made a beautiful rhubarb and strawberry pie a couple of days ago, and I shared a photo of it on our family WhatsApp (parents, siblings and partners).

Yesterday afternoon my mum dropped by unexpectedly after visiting a friend nearby. I offered her a cup of tea and a biscuit and she said 'oh no, I'll have a slice of that lovely pie'. I said 'oh sorry! It's all been eaten', to which she responded with the most exaggerated display of astonishment and surprise. She kept saying 'REALLY! A whole pie in ONE DAY?', saying it would have done her and my dad for a week, we must have had huge slices etc. She made five or six comments in total.

The first time she commented I told her my in laws had been over so between them and us we'd eaten five slices, then my husband had had another piece in the afternoon following a 55km bike ride, and then the three of us had had a piece for morning coffee that day, totalling 9 slices of a normal sized pie. Not a crazy amount. Then when she kept on going on about it I tried to brush it off and move on, before eventually snapping at her to stop talking about food and appetites in front of my young children, at which point she left in a huff. She has texted me this morning to let me know she's hurt, she was just surprised, and that she wasn't saying anything inappropriate in front of the children.

She has absolute form for this. She's one of those people who always has to have the smallest appetite in the room, loves talking about meals she's forgotten to eat, loves refusing food. I was stunned she asked for a slice of pie in the first place since ninety nine times out of a hundred she refuses anything I offer her and makes a point of telling me she's totally full after a huge breakfast of one blini and a quail's egg. She's permanently on a diet, obsessed with food but never eats any, thinks that thinness is next to godliness etc. I've learned to live with it but I'll be damned if me and my children will accept being treated as revolting gluttons for eating two slices of pie over two days.

Anyway, the dilemma. She's incredibly defensive and will go nuclear if I try and get her to take any accountability. I swallow a lot of her shit for the sake of family harmony, and I'm at peace with this because she and I now have a very superficial relationship and I let her crap wash over me. But it's going to get to the point of affecting my children and when that happens I'll have to intervene and accept the fallout. So what do I say to her now? She's expecting an apology from me for snapping and reassurance that she's a lovely mother and granny who was treated unfairly. Do I:

  1. Give her an insincere apology to get her to fuck off and leave me alone
  2. text something very neutral like 'let's not row over pie' and hope she drops it
  3. tell her she was being ridiculous and that it's part of a wider pattern of behaviour that I won't tolerate in front of my kids, and deal with whatever histrionics and drama follows
  4. other suggestions welcome

Sounds like she has a disorder. You could talk to her and say that you dont think she has a healthy relationship with food and that you don't want your kids to pick up the same problem. You don't have to b nasty but you have a right to defend your kids.

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BeanThereDoneIt · 14/07/2025 14:40

IPM · 14/07/2025 12:45

Far from 'snide', I'm saying very directly that you need to let this go.

You're having weekly therapy which must be costing you a fortune.

I don't think rehashing this massive story about a pie and your mother's attitude towards it, is going to do anything except make you even more exhausted.

But I'll bow out now as you're obviously not open to anyone who doesn't agree with you.

Gosh I wish all of us with difficult relationships with our parents had read your advice from the start. ‘Just let it go’ - so simple! Why didn’t we all think of that 😒

Applesonthelawn · 14/07/2025 14:40

Eventually you'll get to 3. I'd go straight there because I like the air to be clear. I've struggled a lot with food myself so recognise it in others and have a low tolerance to them imposing their own hang ups on me, I have enough to do to keep myself normal around food, let alone dealing with their nonsense too.

DrowningInSyrup · 14/07/2025 14:38
  1. If she continues on about it, I'd just ignore her, leave it a while then message her about something entirely different. Never mention the sodding pie again.
  2. is an option, only if she is relentless.
  3. Move house, don't leave a forwarding address.
BettyCrockerClinic · 14/07/2025 14:34

IPM · 14/07/2025 12:09

But that's exactly how it could have gone if you didn't entertain it.

But not only did you entertain it, you've just typed a massive OP to ask strangers what they think?

Honestly, you and your mum sound fairly similar in how over involved you're both getting about a pie.

No one forced you to read it or respond to it! Why are you acting like the OP has wasted all of our time? Go and read something else you think is so deserving of your precious attention!

ihavespoken · 14/07/2025 14:34

Rh0dedenr0n · 14/07/2025 13:09

My DH (now ex) would just say "oh theyre just like that ignore them" but that was part of a trait of never defending me or backing me up or really in any way caring about things that upset me. Three months PP my exFil cornered me away from everyone at a party (i was wandering about trying to get DD off to sleep) and asked if i was aware i was still carrying a lot of extra weight. When i told DH and ex SIL they both just said awwww hes just silly like that. His wife was worse. A right piece of work. I dont miss having them in my life

Fucking hell!! I'm glad they are your ex-in laws!

MytummydontjigglejiggleItfolds · 14/07/2025 14:33

Ohnobackagain · 14/07/2025 14:27

Yes @BeachPossum give her the portion to person ratio 🍰

For full world incineration:

"I've actually thought you've looked a bit tubby lately so didn't want to offer you something so fattening"

😈

They can dish it but they can never take it

Ohnobackagain · 14/07/2025 14:27

BeachPossum · 14/07/2025 11:59

I should text her this and watch the world burn 😂

Yes @BeachPossum give her the portion to person ratio 🍰

LostSunglasses · 14/07/2025 14:27

Endofyear · 14/07/2025 14:22

I wouldn't do anything at all. Just leave her to sulk and wait until she makes contact with you. Have you told her that you find her attitude to food really dysfunctional? I think if she keeps making comments in front of the children, you will have to limit contact until they are of an age where you can explain to them that their grandmother has a really unhealthy relationship with food.

Yes, I'd let her stew in her (rhubarb) juice a bit.

PowerUpAndPowerOn · 14/07/2025 14:25

I'd forget it.

This is my analysis of it

  1. She's pissed off because the pie looked nice and she was looking forward to it.
  2. Her annoyance about no pie has resulted in her snipping because she's feeling left out and that she missed out and stupid for (obviously) coming by just for this pie.
  3. Your history with her is leading you to over react to her display of irritation.

It's the fact it food that is causing the issue.

If you'd posted a photo of something your son had made - like an array of christmas decorations or something. If she came round and said, I'll have one of those please and you said, sorry we've given them all away to his friends. If she went off on one about you are always giving things away, his friends arent as important as me, you are so selfish. It would be clearer that she's being very unreasonable and just reacting because she wanted one.

Life is short. Too short to be upset either about a pie or someone going on about it being eaten.

MytummydontjigglejiggleItfolds · 14/07/2025 14:25

"Sorry I snapped at you. To prevent this happening again, let's both agree to refrain from commenting on food and eating habits in my house or around my children. Thanks"

diddl · 14/07/2025 14:25

I don't think there's any point in replying/trying to justify yourself.

She won't get it (won't want to?)

I you do continue if see her, try not to talk about food & don't offer her any!

her: you ate that ENORMOUS pie?!
you: yes we did, it was delicious.
her: I could never do that, it would last me a week!
you: gosh.
her: weren’t you stuffed?! I’d have been sick and not eaten for days!
you: Not at all.
her: Wow, a WHOLE pie…
you: So, how are Bill and the kids?

Tbh I'm not sure that that is shutting it down quickly enough.

Her first question would surely just need an eyeroll!

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 14/07/2025 14:24

Thumbs up or 'ok' - doesn't need any more response than that.

FancyCatSlave · 14/07/2025 14:23

I would do absolutely nothing whatsoever. Ignore her completely and let her make the move.

HugHog · 14/07/2025 14:23

I have to ask - if your mother is like this about food, why would you post pictures of your meals on a WhatsApp group that she's part of?

DoNotIron · 14/07/2025 14:22

IPM · 14/07/2025 12:15

Eh? I already said how you should've responded in the post you quoted?

'REALLY! A whole pie in ONE DAY?'

"Yeah, quite a few people had some, not just us".

The end 🤷‍♂️

No need to entertain any more conversation about it after that.

Yet here you are saying it's exhausting but at the same time, rehashing it all again and discussing it all here.

See, I absolutely agree with this. More words = more engagement. You felt the need to explain to your mum who had pie and when and helped turn it into a discussion. A simple ‘several of us had pie’ or similar is enough. Then change the subject. I’m not being critical at all. I know how hard it is not to get drawn in. DP gives his very controlling and interfering parents great big long explanations of everything - eg why he can’t come over at the weekend, why he didn’t mention that he visited his auntie/cousin/friend’s parrot. All it does is give him extra rope to hang himself, because it becomes a ‘thing’ instead of being quickly addressed so that the subject can be changed/dismissed.