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To think this was a d!ck move

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Lotsa · 14/07/2025 10:43

Me and DH aren't on good terms at the moment. Basically I am a 3 month pp mum of 2. One being a demanding toddler the other being an overly clingy baby. I am a sahm to both so he can see his new business up and coming. Lately I've just been feeling so swept under the rug. Like none of my needs are prioritised or matter. I get being a mum means putting your kids first but I had a c section and breast infection post surgery whilst ebf a baby who is (currently) cluster feeding. I would like at times, for my DH to consider me more and just ask how I'm doing. It's so bad that on days he is working I can't shower/eat until late into the day because baby just won't nap or be put down.

Anyways, yesterday, I asked for one simple thing. Something that would be a pick me up. Think a drink from Starbucks. I am exhausted from being up with newborn and bfing through this cluster feed phase. Dh dragged his feet, kids got to bed late and then surprise surprise it was too late to go. I got extremely fed up because to me it just feels like the icing on the cake to not ever being considered. I'm tired of never being able to get have breakfast or shower or brush my hair or put on makeup.

I know DH is working and bringing money in but I also feel he is fortunate that he gets to work on something for him (his own business) and that by watching the kids I'm supporting him whilst kind of sacrificing doing anything towards myself like he is, if that makes sense? Last night I went to bed after the last straw for me and DH followed. DH is a massive non talker and hates communicating. Predictably, rather than just asking if I'm okay, he made a few remarks about how I was being unfair to him so I told him to give me space.

This morning he has woken up and wanted to "talk". Again all very predictable, on DH's terms and conditions. I said I'm past that point as I went to bed mad and he knows I hate this. I'd much rather communicate in the moment. He blamed me for saying I needed space as to why he didn't communicate (even though it felt like he came to me to defend himself rather than talk) So instead of just getting on with it, DH then left a screaming newborn just whilst I was making breakfast. Meaning I did not get to eat. AGAIN. Here was me thinking he is home so I can finally eat in peace and no. He literally dumps screaming dbaby down and walks off into the garden.

What really sticks to me is that I remember reading a post about what makes a strong marriage/relationship. And one of responses was that despite arguments and not being on good terms that each partner would still be on the same team and show each other love throughout. I just feel like my partner can do things out of vindictiveness and whenever we had a feud or argument that he makes it well known he isn't going to support or care for me in the moment.

Is it the pp's hormones? We are meant to be getting married soon and all this stuff, although small, is making me have doubts. I don't like this sort of dynamic for a relationship but it's just who DH is as a person. It all seems very depressing and stressful.

I just feel like it was a real d!ck move to leave newborn screaming alone in a room forcing me to attend to them when I was just about to have breakfast after bfing all night and feeling very shaky/weak. DH knows I've been struggling with the cluster feeds and it does not feel supportive one bit, regardless if we are in each others good books or not.

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Moonnstars · 14/07/2025 16:39

There is a lot to unpick here.
Did you have therapy before deciding to have children? You agree with comments about not being compatible so what made you want to stay with him?
Who wanted to start a family?
What was he like when you just had one child -was he more helpful then and more respectful of your needs?
Why did you decide to give up work and not go back part time?

Yes he sounds a dick, but you also sound naive and foolish to give up everything for this man (and I am wondering whether you were desperate for children that you weren't really bothered about who with, as you agree you are not compatible so I am not sure why you got yourself into this mess).

ginasevern · 14/07/2025 16:26

Did your DH want children OP? Was it very much a joint decision?

SisterMidnight77 · 14/07/2025 16:17

Don’t marry this man.

TwinklySquid · 14/07/2025 15:51

It’s during difficult times that you find out who really has your back. It doesn’t sound like you are a team at all.

diddl · 14/07/2025 15:35

There's a world of difference between doting & basic bloody kindness.

He sounds horrible & selfish & tbh I'd consider not marrying him!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 14/07/2025 15:03

GoldDuster · 14/07/2025 11:13

I think he is worried to be seen to be 'simping' because his dad dotes on his mum and he can't stand the fact that he does everything she asks.

If you can't dote on a post partum woman who's borne two of your children, then who can you dote on? What a shitty attitude. He's being a dick.

You're in a really vulnerable time right now, you're feeling shit and what you need is support and care, not someone teaching you a lesson and putting you in your place.

That’s awful that he deliberately doesn’t want to care for you - and that he uses an awful word like “simping”.

He sounds horrible and misogynistic.

And yes it was a dick move to leave you with a screaming baby like that.

You are in an incredibly vulnerable position - you should never give up work and SAHM without being married or civil partnered - not without cast iron agreements which might as well be one of those things (and then simpler just to have the marriage/ partnership!).

Horses7 · 14/07/2025 15:02

Get married fast for your financial future! You can divorce at leisure should you need to.

jolies1 · 14/07/2025 14:46

HyggeTygge · 14/07/2025 11:29

I think he is worried to be seen to be 'simping'

I would not stand to be with someone who used this word in any seriousness. He's been reading/watching mens' rights shit, hasn't he?

He sounds absolutely awful.

Exactly.

No decent man would use this kind of terminology for someone who supports and cares for his partner and young children.

PinkBobby · 14/07/2025 14:36

Jennyathemall · 14/07/2025 12:49

I know DH is working and bringing money in but I also feel he is fortunate that he gets to work on something for him (his own business) and that by watching the kids I'm supporting him whilst kind of sacrificing doing anything towards myself like he is, if that makes sense?

How do you imagine he feels? Starting a business is incredibly stressful. Can you imagine the weight of expectation on him as the sole earner? You doing him a favour? He’s the one bringing in the money and keeping the family afloat. You think he goes off to work and puts his feet up all day? “His own business” It’s not a hobby. Relationships and family are supposed to be about teamwork and sharing the load. So we’ve heard how you feel, how about him? Do you ask about him and his needs? To you treat him how you want to be treated? Have you asked him how he feeling and if he is happy. Believe it or not, it isn’t actually all about you. You’re in this together,
and you need to figure it out together. Your growing resentment of him is likely pushing him further away. He needs to communicate better and you need to lose the resentment. You both need a reset.

Edited

I don’t care how stressful someone’s job is, you still have to show up as a partner and especially as a parent. There are parents who work multiple jobs or incredibly stressful jobs yet they put their own stuff aside for the few hours a week they see their children. Of course, everyone has off days when they might be a bit short or not want to play and then you work as a team and ‘cover’ for the other. But generally speaking, a job doesn’t give you an infinite ‘get out of jail free’ card for being a rubbish team mate or parent. It’s unfair on all the parents out there who are at least trying to do both roles well.

Hoppinggreen · 14/07/2025 14:33

Glitterballofdreams · 14/07/2025 11:03

This is irrelevant. You will still be entitled to a state pension as you’re bringing up children, as long as you are claiming child benefit.
OP can also return to work at some point if she wishes.
Living with someone outside of wedlock, and raising their children also financially entitles you, for example, if you were to split up and sell your home.

Its not quite as simple as that.
Marriage is a good idea if you give up your career and have children. For example OP has no claim on his business or earnings other than for the children. Her career and financial sacrifices are not taken into account.

PinkBobby · 14/07/2025 14:28

Lotsa · 14/07/2025 11:05

@frozendaisy I did ask him the other day if he loved me, as I'm not really feeling it at the moment.

Of course he just replied "yes". He just said that he doesn't always want to "cave to my requests". I think he is worried to be seen to be 'simping' because his dad dotes on his mum and he can't stand the fact that he does everything she asks. Maybe he has now taking it to the extreme and gone completely the other way. Or maybe he just isn't very attentive as a person.

I didn’t spot this additional info earlier - sorry to double post OP! This is why it is your husband who needs to pop along to therapy! He cannot bring his own baggage into your relationship like this at your expense. He is being triggered by his parents’ relationship and it’s affecting your wellbeing. Caring for your post partum wife isn’t ‘simping’ or a sign of weakness. To be honest, you shouldn’t have to request to eat or shower everyday. He should make sure you’re doing that because he’s a decent human being.

Unless you are making outlandish requests 24/7 (which it doesn’t sound like you are), he needs to realise that a relationship involves give and take. Yes, he has this amazing and probably stressful career but that doesn’t mean you get to neglect your family. Post partum women are vulnerable and need to be looked after. The fact he’s worried about spoiling you is (in some ways) like worrying about spoiling a new born - god forbid you rely on your partner in a vulnerable moment and feel loved and comforted by him! Please tell him you are not his mum and he needs to do better. He needs to work on why his parents’ relationship is such an issue for him and why his automatic reaction to a request from his partner is resistance.

And to those saying just leave your baby to cry whilst you shower, aside from some people not being comfortable doing that when they’re so little, the main reason OP shouldn’t have to do this is because she has a partner. If he is home, there is zero reason why he shouldn’t be responsible for at least trying to soothe a sad baby whilst his wife has a shower/eats a meal. I don’t care what your job is, if you choose to have children, you step up and when you’re home you try your best.

Keepingoin · 14/07/2025 14:07

You sound like a devoted mum albeit an exhausted one. My second baby went through a phase of cluster feeding which went on for far longer than my first. The health visitor said to persevere as he was quite a big baby who coudnt seem to get enough. I won't go into all the reasons suffice to say I made the decision at 4 months to change to bottle feeding & we never looked back. Dh shared the feeds as did grandparents & baby started sleeping through the night. I know this wouldn't be for everyone but I have no regrets & would do the same again.

YourLoyalPlumOP · 14/07/2025 13:54

BeltaLodaLife · 14/07/2025 11:32

You’re not married but you’re not working? Stupid move. Really stupid. You’re fucked financially, you’re out of the workforce and if you split up, you don’t get anything to compensate what you gave up. Why have you stopped working with no protections for yourself?

You could have worded that so much nicer.

YourLoyalPlumOP · 14/07/2025 13:54

Lotsa · 14/07/2025 11:29

@frozendaisy yes we had a "talk" before DC was born regarding work. I say "talk" because I don't think it can be called that. It went something along the lines off ...

Me: I don't think this is a good time to start up a new a business with no savings behind us. We are just about to have a child.

Him: there will never be a good time. It will get us more money in the long run

Me: I just think we should have money behind us for rainy days

Him: you are being unsupportive and pessimistic

Arguments and he left me

So I had to drop it. Yes I believe he had good intentions starting up the business but the timing was completely off and had financially screwed us over last year big time. Yes I get where his head was at in terms of when this finally takes off we will have lots of money, but it definitely just felt like a big part towards him deciding was just that he wanted to do it. And that was that! If I spoke against it I was seen to be negative and uncaring towards him.

I mean how can you be sure it will be very successful?

jjeoreo · 14/07/2025 13:53

orangeflag · 14/07/2025 10:57

You don’t sound very compatible.
I couldn’t be married to someone I couldn’t communicate and resolve things easily with, especially as most divorces are down to lack of communication and that’s after years of trying and communication has eventually broken down.
You haven’t even got married yet, this is the honeymoon period.

I don't think it's fair to say this is the honeymoon period with two little kids underfoot. Surely the honeymoon period is when you've just got together, getting to know each other, unaware of each others annoying points and shagging like rabbits?

YourLoyalPlumOP · 14/07/2025 13:51

Lotsa · 14/07/2025 11:02

@Glitterballofdreams he doesn't really suit being home with the kids. At the moment he is struggling and finding it difficult and I get the impression he is happier at work. This is his dream business, so I just don't feel like it equates. I feel like I'm sacrificing where as he (seems) to be adding to himself. Maybe that's just my perception of things though.

@orangeflag we know we aren't compatible in this way. We have had plenty of couples therapy in the past and our counsellor did state this. It just drives me crazy as I am a massive talker/communicator. And he hates it/actively avoids it. Yes I could write him a letter ect but it's always me instigating communication in our relationship and he knows I begrude that fact. Yesterday was just so predictable as I knew he wouldn't actually try to talk to me and instead send himself off to bed. He is good at sleeping on things where as I'm not and it keeps me up at night. It doesn't help that he is there sleeping peacefully whilst I'm seething!!!

I really admire the couples therapy that you have done

but if you’ve got that far and that’s still not working or not being out into practice of what their suggestions was to communicate more effectively. Then what more can you do?

AnonymousBleep · 14/07/2025 13:51

Swan6 · 14/07/2025 12:48

You need to get married
How have you got yourself in such a bad situation
Never be a SAHM if your not married.
Concentrate on getting the wedding sorted ,so you have some financial security

She absolutely should not marry this abusive twat. It might be better for her financially - MAYBE - but you can guarantee his treatment of her will get worse once she's 'locked down.'

Finteq · 14/07/2025 13:46

Swan6 · 14/07/2025 12:48

You need to get married
How have you got yourself in such a bad situation
Never be a SAHM if your not married.
Concentrate on getting the wedding sorted ,so you have some financial security

Unfortunately this is the best advice at the moment.

If you were financially secure we would be telling you to just leave him.

Perhapsanothertime · 14/07/2025 13:41

Lotsa · 14/07/2025 11:29

@frozendaisy yes we had a "talk" before DC was born regarding work. I say "talk" because I don't think it can be called that. It went something along the lines off ...

Me: I don't think this is a good time to start up a new a business with no savings behind us. We are just about to have a child.

Him: there will never be a good time. It will get us more money in the long run

Me: I just think we should have money behind us for rainy days

Him: you are being unsupportive and pessimistic

Arguments and he left me

So I had to drop it. Yes I believe he had good intentions starting up the business but the timing was completely off and had financially screwed us over last year big time. Yes I get where his head was at in terms of when this finally takes off we will have lots of money, but it definitely just felt like a big part towards him deciding was just that he wanted to do it. And that was that! If I spoke against it I was seen to be negative and uncaring towards him.

But “we” won’t have lots of money. He will.

Lottie6712 · 14/07/2025 13:40

Lotsa · 14/07/2025 11:51

@Selfsetfree I agree. He does need to be kinder to me..if the shoe was on the other foot regardless of a feud I still would have made sure he could eat. Particularly if I knew he was feeling ill from feeding our newborn all night.

This is where I just don't get him as a person and cannot relate. It feels malicious

His behaviour is awful. For the first 6 months of DC2, my husband brought me breakfast in bed as I was famished from breastfeeding and being up all night. Now my baby is older, one of the first things he still does is make me a coffee as I'm still the one getting up at night. Your partner sounds like he has a very strange and aggressive attitude to someone he's supposed to cherish - fiancée and mother of his children!

Deadringer · 14/07/2025 13:38

I read this on here once and it stuck with me, many men seem to think that babies and small children are like a sort of hobby for mums. He thinks you are lucky to be at home indulging in your hobby, even though it leaves you exhausted and with no time for yourself. As a pp said, his working and bringing in money is not something he is doing for you and the dc, he is doing it for him, and the rest of you benefit from the rewards. Supporting his family is the absolute least he can do, the absolute minimum, morally and legally. Babies and toddlers are fucking hard work, you need to take care of yourself, and he needs to support you in that. Not eating or showering or whatever is not an option for your children, or your dh and it shouldn't be for you. If you need to eat/wash you hand the dc to him, if he won't engage with them, you need to eat/wash anyway. Most decent men understand that mums have needs too, if yours doesn't, he needs to learn. It won't harm your dc to be left crying for a few minutes, and like your dh, they will learn that they have two adults in their lives, not just you.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 14/07/2025 13:36

Jennyathemall · 14/07/2025 12:49

I know DH is working and bringing money in but I also feel he is fortunate that he gets to work on something for him (his own business) and that by watching the kids I'm supporting him whilst kind of sacrificing doing anything towards myself like he is, if that makes sense?

How do you imagine he feels? Starting a business is incredibly stressful. Can you imagine the weight of expectation on him as the sole earner? You doing him a favour? He’s the one bringing in the money and keeping the family afloat. You think he goes off to work and puts his feet up all day? “His own business” It’s not a hobby. Relationships and family are supposed to be about teamwork and sharing the load. So we’ve heard how you feel, how about him? Do you ask about him and his needs? To you treat him how you want to be treated? Have you asked him how he feeling and if he is happy. Believe it or not, it isn’t actually all about you. You’re in this together,
and you need to figure it out together. Your growing resentment of him is likely pushing him further away. He needs to communicate better and you need to lose the resentment. You both need a reset.

Edited

What the fuck am I reading?

You do know that this man has two children and, as it's not the 1950s any longer, that he needs to put as much work into his family as OP does. It doesn't matter that he has his own business and may be stressed, they are his children too and he needs to give his wife (to be) a break no matter how he's feeling.

He's a spineless, moronic manbaby who needs a kick into the real world. Using phrasing like simping and saying he doesn't want to cave to your demands - what an utterly disgusting, Andrew tate loving, embarrassment to mankind.

Threewordname · 14/07/2025 13:28

OP, you say he wanted to talk this morning, but you refused. He may have many faults, but you can’t say "he won’t communicate" if what you mean is "he won’t communicate at the time I choose". Perhaps it’s just that you prefer to air grievances in the heat of the moment and he prefers to wait until you have both calmed down a bit.

LochKatrine · 14/07/2025 13:28

It doesn't matter whether it doesn't "suit him" to be at home with the kids. He's a parent. He's going to have to step up more and support you.
Have a conversation - when both of you are able - about needs and expectations.
When you decided to have children did he say that he would be a proactive parent?

GrumpyInsomniac · 14/07/2025 13:27

Probably because the poor woman is sleep-deprived, trying to manage a cluster-feeding baby and a toddler, and absolutely running on empty. It’s hard to think straight or focus on other things when the baby is crying and the one person you should be able to rely on to back you up fucks off and leaves you to it.

The hungry cry was one that always got a visceral response from me: it’s really hard to ignore. I was lucky that DH eventually just got some formula and forced me to take a step back so I could look after myself. But OP doesn’t have that support from her partner and knows that if she doesn’t deal with it, nobody will. I have nothing but sympathy for her and what she doesn’t need right now is to get dunked on here when what she needs is support and some sympathy.

Her partner punished her for being upset by neglecting his own baby. That’s very definitely a dick move.

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