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To not shout at my child to go back to bed in the middle of the night

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Gagamama2 · 14/07/2025 10:15

My partner and I are at loggerheads with my son's behaviour. There's lots going on during the daytime as well but the issue I'd like to know is who is being the more reasonable one at night, me or my partner.

My son is 6, with possible ADHD / Dyspraxia / SPD (all to be assessed soon once I've saved up the money).

His sleep has always been a bit up and down, but we've had a fairly good 6 months of it. Recently (within the last month) he has been waking up at night and wanting reassurance. He is scared of the dark and has to go to sleep with his main light on. I then switch this off and leave the hall light on with his door wide open, but he still doesn't like being alone. In the daytime he will not stay in an area of the house by himself, or go into the garden by himself, as he says he is scared of being alone.

On the two nights a week when my partner isn't here and he wakes up I put him back to his bed when he comes into me, give him reassurance, get him water etc. He generally goes back to sleep within 20 mins.

But when my partner is here he shouts at him to get back to bed. pushes him back into his room. slams our door shut etc etc and I can't stand it. He tells me not to go in there as I'm making him worse and making the sleeping patterns worse. Last night I listened to my son crying for 15 mins, then he stopped. 10 mins later I went in to make sure he wasn't completely covered by the blanket (he does this to make himself feel less scared) as its too hot to have it over his head etc. He was wide awake under the blanket sweating like mad. He needed the loo so I took him, got him some pjs that weren't wet with sweat, and put cream on his eczema as it was itching. He then went back to sleep v calm. All in all took about 15-20 mins.

I am fuming with my partner that he can treat our son this way. It's the same night after night. But AIBU?? perhaps I'm being too soft and he would have gone back to sleep by himself? I'm not sure it's normal for a 6 year old to be needing so much reassurance and support at night but then again maybe what's normal doesn't matter? of course I would LOVE a whole nights uninturruped sleep. I'm not getting up in the middle of the night for the fun of it. And doing all the emotional support work for my kids without my partner taking any of it is really taking its toll.

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MarvellousMonsters · 18/07/2025 21:51

MischiefandMayhemManaged · 14/07/2025 11:28

I'm sorry, but for you to think that that level of relaince on someone being there at age 6! is normal? thats a WTF moment. The only time i ever got up to ask my mum for something age 6 was if my other medical condition was flaring. Otherwise Id just go pee, and if i couldnt sleep, get a book out. I knew my mum worked all day and was exhausted, even then. I wasnt going to wake her up because I felt insecure. That was what the nightlight was for. Now..In my 30's i have a weighted blanket that does the trick.

Embedding co-dependancy that young really isn't going to help in the long term.

Hmmm, so you couldn’t seek comfort from your mum in the night, and now, in your 30s you need a weighted blanket, but it’s done you no harm…..

ok Hmm

KayDog · 15/07/2025 14:06

Darragon · 14/07/2025 10:24

My mother used to do what your DH is doing now. Eventually I gave up trying to get support or comfort, so she thought it was successful. In reality, I used to lie awake for hours hiding under my quilt terrified and crying every night. I was NC with her from the moment I left home at 18. It was part of a pattern of nasty, unempathetic behaviour that left me very emotionally damaged and needing a lot of therapy as an adult.

@Darragon this is absolutely heartbreaking, so sorry you had endure this Flowers

Kreepture · 15/07/2025 11:42

"needs more than a nightlight and a hug"

If that's what was garnered from my long ass post on what i've been dealing with for the last 18 years, then i have been seriously minimised. I'd love to know how many of you who were dealing with this with your under 10s are now supporting a young adult through it... Sometimes it is never fixable and you have to do what works for you both. As i said, i have never slept through because of his night issues.

My nearly 19yo son has..
A star projector
A night light
Music
A 'safety plush' that he can't sleep without
Unfettered access to myself/my bedroom at all hours of the day and night.
Lights on the stairs and in the bathroom that are motion sensitive.

Fear of the dark/being alone isn't just worked on AT NIGHT, you have to work on it during the day.

The MOST IMPORTANT thing for any child with anxiety is to make it clear that YOU are their safe space, their safety. You establish that they can always trust you to understand/support/help them, and then you build on that.

DS will never sleep through, at least 2/3 nights of the week he will end up in my room and i will have to take him back to bed, but now if i follow the routine and offer reassurance he will resettle without issue within 10-15 minutes, it's less about fear these days and more about can't sleep/feel sick/anxious about something going on in the day/at school/just needs reassurance.

OP: While your (notsoD)H is scaring the fuck out of him and putting him in that position of fear/anxiety, and neither of you are doing anything constructive to help with his anxiety in the day, this won't get better.

mummybear35 · 15/07/2025 11:33

If I had to choose between my child and my husband, it will always be my child and my husband knew that! They’re young for such a short time and it’s our job to make them know they’re loved and safe…your husband’s a dick! I would find that so unattractive in a man and he’d either have to stop treating my child like that or find somewhere else to sleep if he wants interrupted sleep but I am NOT sneaking round in the middle of the night comforting my child so as not to upset the husband! I’d take a bullet for my children, I’d duck if someone fired at my husband 😆

Katemax82 · 15/07/2025 11:31

I wouldn't tolerate this...

Nearly50omg · 15/07/2025 11:29

Gagamama2 · 14/07/2025 11:14

Thank you everyone. I've been reading all the replies just don't have time to reply to everyone inbetween work. People's shocked responses have been very validating and helpful. I suppose its just been going on so long (9 years, as my previous two have had their ups and downs with sleep as well) that I've normalised it more than I should and have and become confused about what is acceptable and what isn't. I need to have a long hard look at things and have a proper talk with my partner about it because you are all right, it is borderline abusive and it is not acceptable. My poor little boy.

It’s not “borderline” abusive at all!! It’s full on psychologically and emotionally abusive! You need to change the locks next time he gos on a work trip and tell him to find somewhere else to stay when he comes home

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 15/07/2025 09:30

Your DH needs a reality check.

His behaviour is unacceptable and will make things worse. He needs a really good look at himself and how he’s treating a small child.

And getting a ND child back to sleep in their own bed in 20 mins is frankly amazing!! It what many parents strive to achieve. He needs to recognise that you’re managing this really well.

He needs to be aware of other similar children and how well his son is doing in comparison!

DS has co-slept with us for half the night for over 2 years. It is the only way we get any kind of sleep. And even then we have delights of nights like last night…. 4 hours in the middle of the night wide awake, talking nonstop, hyper fixating on characters from different transformers films!! Completely manic.

My DH would have been bloody ecstatic if we managed to get him back to sleep in his room within 20 mins. You’re doing an amazing job!! He’s in the wrong and is being awful.

JRM17 · 15/07/2025 09:21

I think you need to find a middle ground on this, your partner sounds very rigid and a little cruel but on the flip side you sound way too soft. Your DS is 6 not 2 I don't think he needs as much "hand holding" as you give him. (Want and Need are very different things). He needs to learn to self soothe like you do with a baby. Even with additional needs by 6 he should be perfectly capable of going to the loo in the night on his own and going back to bed. I think shouting at him and slamming doors is wrong but also there's no way id be getting up every night and molifying his behaviour.

butterdish93 · 14/07/2025 21:39

The problems your son has in terms of his anxiety and trouble with seperation, have probably come from having a angry, un empathetic father.
you’re doing the right thing, you’re looking after your child. I don’t like the sound of your husband at all.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/07/2025 21:21

Your partner is an abusive bastard and is bullying your child. If Gina's far to say he is physically abusing him by pushing him forcefully back into his room. It is intimidation and needs to stop

For everyone's sake and safety you need to leave him. Protect your child!!!!!

Snugglemonkey · 14/07/2025 21:17

usedtobeaylis · 14/07/2025 10:29

Also your partner has absolutely no right to dictate to you that you don't go in to your son when he's crying, absolutely no right at all.

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So this. No man would ever keep me from my child in distress. I would lose so much respect for anyone who put me in that position that it would kill any relationship stone dead.

BackToRealitySigh · 14/07/2025 21:16

Oh no - you need to find another way. My ASD dd got into my bed until she was about 7 maybe 8 in the night. They are only little, and they won't do it for ever, let them feel secure. Would a mattress on the floor or a super king-size bed help you as a family?
or a separate bedroom on his own for your partner

Gagamama2 · 14/07/2025 21:14

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 14/07/2025 21:00

It isn’t borderline abuse, it is abuse. It’s abusive to you as well to prevent you going to your son to comfort him. Unbelievable.

Yes it is unbelievable now I read it back. The responses on this thread have been a huge wake up call. Thank you x

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Gowlett · 14/07/2025 21:13

I know what you’re saying about doing sleep right.
I have friends who bring their kid back every time.
Let them cry. Be alone. Not allowed into their bed.
I co-slept my DS. I loved being in my parents bed.
There’s no right or wrong, IMO. Just your own way!

OneNewLeader · 14/07/2025 21:12

Imagine how your son felt, frightened and pushed by grown man (someone who should love him) back into the place he’s scared of.

I know I couldn’t do what you did.

Gagamama2 · 14/07/2025 21:12

Gowlett · 14/07/2025 21:09

My DH is doing bedtime tonight.
He’s not able to be calm, there will be drama.
No patience at all for DS…
It’s totally needless. Yeah, he’s tired.
He goes on worse than a toddler.
It’s why I do it 90% of the time…

Sorry you’re shouldering it all. It’s shit xx

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Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 14/07/2025 21:11

Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 14/07/2025 21:00

My mother was always very cross if my brother or me had the temerity to wake them in the middle of the night.

For context I need to say that we lived in a thatched cottage in the country & I was born in 1963.

So, I'm aged about 13. We had rats/mice in the house & father put poison down. I woke up in the middle of the night to discover a dying rat next to my bed. 😱

I go into my parent's bedroom, try to wake my father. My mother wakes up & shouts at me asking me if the house is on fire otherwise there's no valid reason for waking them.

I go into my younger brother's room to ask him to help me get rid of the rat. I was rather scared of rats.

Father, hearing the fuss, gets out of bed & starts to deal with the situation.

Mother hearing the fuss gets out of bed & shouting at everyone saying, again, if the house isn't on fire, there's no reason to raise the whole house & I'm a naughty girl for disturbing everyone.

Then she saw the rat next to my bed.....attitude changed. 😂

Years later my then widowed mother had an alarm that would get in touch with me should she need it.

I get a phone call from the alarm operator at about 03:00am telling me mum's alarm had gone off. Long story short she'd accidentally set it off in her sleep. She shouted at me when I arrived (me expecting to meet her fallen down somewhere) saying that she hadn't asked to be woken up in the middle of the night & told me to piss off.

After that she didn't wear her alarm because she didn't want me to be called in in the early hours - despite me saying that was the purpose of the alarm & I was happy to do it.

Unfortunately she had a fall in her bathroom in the early hours. I didn't find her until I went to check on her at lunchtime the following day.

She was taken into hospital & then a care home where she died 3 weeks later.

I can't help thinking that, if she'd been more amenable to accepting help, if she'd have live longer.

She was always a feisty independent person & maybe just as well that she died being that way?

Gagamama2 · 14/07/2025 21:09

TheRedGoose · 14/07/2025 21:05

You are reinforcing his anxiety by affirming he has something to be anxious about. I would work with him on very slowly getting used to be alone for short periods in the house and garden. And working to find other ways he can handle anxiety at night e.g. favourite cuddly soft toy, breathing exercises. It would be a slow process. but I would not just be ignoring his anxiety by reassuring him.

if it was just a case of giving him a fav cuddly toy and doing breathing excersises then it would have been sorted out months ago because obviously these are things we have been trying for months. He also learns these kind of methods with the senco at school because he has v low levels of self esteem and resilience there which then cause anxiety. Sadly they aren’t really working, although without them I suppose the situation could be worse so maybe they are

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Gowlett · 14/07/2025 21:09

My DH is doing bedtime tonight.
He’s not able to be calm, there will be drama.
No patience at all for DS…
It’s totally needless. Yeah, he’s tired.
He goes on worse than a toddler.
It’s why I do it 90% of the time…

Iizzyb · 14/07/2025 21:07

Your ds is possibly neurodiverse and he is 6. Not 16 or 26 - he is still a very young child.

you are giving him reassurance and that is clearly what he needs

I feel so sad and upset about what I just read. Your partner is utterly horrible and that is just no way to treat a young child

some babies sleep through, some don’t, some dcs sleep through - some don’t - you parent the child you have, not someone else’s

Please keep reassuring your ds and helping him find ways of settling himself back to sleep and also need to find a way of addressing this with your partner.

someone higher up suggested the “super nanny” way of dealing with this - before I was a parent I thought this was such a good way to handle kids

as a parent of a ds who is ND (but only recently diagnosed) those ways would never have worked for him, but other ways have worked. He was the first baby at baby group to sleep through at 6 weeks - and one of the easiest babies and toddlers - but it hasn’t always been plain sailing since then

a night light might be a good idea for night time but also he needs you to help him settle please don’t leave him to cry like that again - he’s not naughty - he’s struggling with being on his own - let your partner be by himself & go look after your ds

I wish you well with everything

Gagamama2 · 14/07/2025 21:06

RedToothBrush · 14/07/2025 21:01

YABU because you know it's wrong and he's making your son unhappy but you are continuing the relationship.

To be honest, in my gut I knew it was wrong before starting this thread but genuinely in my head I wasn’t sure. I feel like I’ve failed because none of my kids have been good sleepers and it makes me think I’m doing something wrong. So although I don’t like the way he is handling it I’m stuck in a limbo thinking “well maybe he is right, what do I know”. This thread has been eye opening in how one sided it has been and has his given me confidence in how I’ve been doing things

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TheRedGoose · 14/07/2025 21:05

Gagamama2 · 14/07/2025 21:01

What would you do differently to what I’m doing? My son ends up back in his own bed and asleep within about 15-20 mins if I just get up and meet his needs calmly

You are reinforcing his anxiety by affirming he has something to be anxious about. I would work with him on very slowly getting used to be alone for short periods in the house and garden. And working to find other ways he can handle anxiety at night e.g. favourite cuddly soft toy, breathing exercises. It would be a slow process. but I would not just be ignoring his anxiety by reassuring him.

onceuponastar12 · 14/07/2025 21:03

No one, especially my DH would keep me away from my crying child. I'm really sorry hes making you act against your gut instinct. Your child will remember this (whether consciously or not) and it will affect them. Please go to your son next time, he is obviously scared

Gagamama2 · 14/07/2025 21:01

TheRedGoose · 14/07/2025 20:56

I think you are both in the wrong. Both of your actions, although very different, are reinforcing your sons anxiety.

What would you do differently to what I’m doing? My son ends up back in his own bed and asleep within about 15-20 mins if I just get up and meet his needs calmly

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RedToothBrush · 14/07/2025 21:01

YABU because you know it's wrong and he's making your son unhappy but you are continuing the relationship.

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