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DH expects me to seduce him

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Hereagain334 · 14/07/2025 03:15

DH and I are trying for a baby (40's so will be almost impossible). I have blood tests, scans, fertility appointments etc...he doesn't even have to wank into a pot. I have PCOS so realise I'm up against it and won't likely succeed. He knows all this. My AIBU is that he doesn't want ANY pressure about having sex with me during my most fertile days. I've gently tried to explain some days are better than others for getting pregnant but he responded by accusing me of putting pressure on him. When asked how I should go about it he said I should 'come and seduce him' when I'm at my most fertile and that he didn't want to know when that was!!
I'm so shocked I can't even articulate a response so am worried I'm being hysterical. But I'm so fucking angry I doubt I'll sleep with the twat again.

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Hereagain334 · 14/07/2025 07:07

SiameseBlueEyes · 14/07/2025 06:30

I wouldn't be going through all that without getting him tested about whether his swimmers are heading in the right general direction. Honestly, he sounds like he never really grew up. I imagine if you swan around in a negligee or start doing a striptease down to a g-string he'd pretty much get the idea there was an egg involved and start moaning about pressure or perhaps he'd like you some random non-fertile days as well to spice it up. I can't imagine what I'd have said if my husband had said this to me when I was facing possible issues conceiving. He was there making visits to the specialists and asking about fertile days. It doesn't sound like you like your husband very much and maybe he isn't very likeable. I can't imagine that he is good father material.

I've not banged on about ovulation/fertility to him - just (a bit timidly) mentioned a good window to dtd. His push back tells me a lot and I agree with posters who suggest kids are not the best idea. Fwiw he has form for reacting very badly to any sort of stress so I try and keep a peaceful home life. He doesn't work ATM so paying all the bills and making all the life admin decisions on my own is taking its toll. Maybe time to get out. This comment about seducing him felt like the final straw sadly.

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MsJemimaPuddleDuck · 14/07/2025 07:04

You sound like you both hate each other, dont think its wise to bring a child into this.

ThisOldThang · 14/07/2025 07:03

Why do you want to have a child?

Does your husband know your disgust and contempt for him?

Why would he want to have a child with you?

Should you be having a child together?

Hereagain334 · 14/07/2025 06:59

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You must be extremely bored and lonely to invest so many replies on this thread to no effect. Yes - you've been reported. Now off you fuck...

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Supima · 14/07/2025 06:57

You sound angry and rather sad, possibly because you are worried you will never have a child. But your partner clearly isn’t one of the men women are talking about on this thread who are always up for sex and rock hard instantly. He is in his 40s and has a degree of erectile dysfunction at the best of times which he probably finds humiliating, and he genuinely worries he won’t be physically able to have sex if he feels under pressure to perform on demand. It’s pretty high-stakes sex, after all. And as others have said he literally has to be turned on to have sex, which isn’t the case for a woman. He’s trying to tell you that he fears he won’t be able to help you conceive if sex is purely mechanical. I don’t see why a man would be a bad parent just because he has erectile dysfunction. He’s not doing it to degrade you. He’s probably embarrassed and if you make it as obvious to him that you despise him for it as you have on this thread, then I doubt that helps him either. Is this quite a new relationship?

Boomer55 · 14/07/2025 06:51

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Yeah, the biggest turn on us to feel someone desires you. No woman wants to feel like just a sperm repository and no man just wants to feel like an available sperm donor. 🤷‍♀️

Regardless of age, size, shape etc. use your imagination, channel your inner seductress and have some sexy fun. 😉

Gunnersforthecup · 14/07/2025 06:49

Just to say that I had PCOS and had 2 children in my 40s, so it is possible (though it was anxious and unpredictible) . Have read the OPs but not the whole thread. I guess, if he is going to perform more effectively if the set up is more romantic, can you plan "romantic" evenings in, with a nice (?? dine in to make it easier) meal and whatever set up seems to be conducive to sex, particularly when you know you are going to be ovulating? Is it not something you could both try to enjoy a bit? Arguments are not likely to help with the matter in hand.

Also, are you both taking all the recommended supplements, for example I remember my husband taking zinc.

NeelyOHara · 14/07/2025 06:45

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Aw, a mental incel that stays up all night on a Sunday harassing women on Mumsnet.
How quaint.

Walkaround · 14/07/2025 06:37

Hereagain334 · 14/07/2025 04:31

Yes I have some issues to get checked. Am OK with that and if its not possible then will have to accept it. What I'm not OK with is him dumping all the stress, worry and responsibility on me then expect me to go crawling to him for some of his precious spunk. Which he struggles to produce at the best of times....fuck that.

So, he has performance anxiety, has effectively told you he can’t just get it up on demand when feeling stressed (ie stress related erectile dysfunction), and you’re angry with him. You sound self-centred and tunnel visioned. You both clearly have fertility problems, but you are unsympathetic to his side of the problem.

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 14/07/2025 06:37

Hereagain334 · 14/07/2025 03:50

Why the fuck should I have to seduce him??? He's taking on zero mental load/responsibility! But whinges about pressure. And loves to boast how he'll 'knock me up'... yet is pretty much incapable.

I agree it must be particularly aggravating when you’re the one with an underlying condition and pressured by time constraints to have your husband whinge about feeling under pressure when literally all he has to do is just fuck you. If you’re anything like I was when I was trying to get pregnant, performance wasn’t even important- I literally didn’t care as long as he ejaculated in the right place to make a baby. It’s not hard. Pardon the pun.

I will say, my husband did find it took a toll on him as time went on. Sex did get very mechanical for want of a better word. He does acknowledge it was worse for me. We tried for 4 years (no tests, long story) and then gave up. A month later I was pregnant with our daughter. This isn’t me saying “just relax babe it’ll just happen” because I know that often it doesn’t.

Jennyathemall · 14/07/2025 06:36

Hereagain334 · 14/07/2025 04:31

Yes I have some issues to get checked. Am OK with that and if its not possible then will have to accept it. What I'm not OK with is him dumping all the stress, worry and responsibility on me then expect me to go crawling to him for some of his precious spunk. Which he struggles to produce at the best of times....fuck that.

And you wonder why he doesn’t want to have sex with you?

Honestly you’re starting to sound unhinged.

hqsheqjaqw · 14/07/2025 06:36

Motherofdragons24 · 14/07/2025 04:15

He’s right to be fair. He knows his own body and if he’s telling you too much pressure will put him off, well that’s not going to make a baby is it. I made this mistake for TTC with my first and DH who has never had any trouble in that department before just couldn’t “preform” just too much pressure and the worry of “letting me down”. I still tracked ovulation and done all the stuff at my end but told him nothing about it and just had regular sex, took all pressure off his end and lo and behold I was pregnant within a few months.

I did similar. My DH asked me not to be all “do the deed now I’m ovulating”. I just initiated when I knew it was a good day. It was a bit of an exercise in mental gymnastics as he knew really I was initiating because I was approaching ovulation. But it kept him happy and I got pregnant so 😆

Joystir59 · 14/07/2025 06:36

Hereagain334 · 14/07/2025 04:31

Yes I have some issues to get checked. Am OK with that and if its not possible then will have to accept it. What I'm not OK with is him dumping all the stress, worry and responsibility on me then expect me to go crawling to him for some of his precious spunk. Which he struggles to produce at the best of times....fuck that.

You don't seem to even like each other very much. Why are you trying to bring a child into this situation? You will be back on here next year asking how to get out of the relationship.

BeLilacWriter · 14/07/2025 06:31

CommissarySushi · 14/07/2025 03:52

Because you want to have sex. That's generally how it works in my experience.

Does he really want a baby?

This. I'm wondering if he wants a child.Sounds to like he's happy with his lot and kids are not on his radar.

MaySea · 14/07/2025 06:31

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Why would I teach people something that I've said we need to get rid of? And I must have missed op acting like an entitled brat about having children, she was quite clear that it is unlikely she'll conceive due to her age.

SiameseBlueEyes · 14/07/2025 06:30

I wouldn't be going through all that without getting him tested about whether his swimmers are heading in the right general direction. Honestly, he sounds like he never really grew up. I imagine if you swan around in a negligee or start doing a striptease down to a g-string he'd pretty much get the idea there was an egg involved and start moaning about pressure or perhaps he'd like you some random non-fertile days as well to spice it up. I can't imagine what I'd have said if my husband had said this to me when I was facing possible issues conceiving. He was there making visits to the specialists and asking about fertile days. It doesn't sound like you like your husband very much and maybe he isn't very likeable. I can't imagine that he is good father material.

SoppySalad · 14/07/2025 06:29

@Hereagain334

Nothing screams romance like “this is your responsibility you selfish twat”. If it doesn’t spring to action for that, I don’t know what will work.

In the nicest way possible op, you are being completely unreasonable. Duty sex or functional sex is the worst. It’s high pressure, high stakes and not at all fun. I’m not surprised your husband is struggling. It’s also a lot harder (or not) for him, as he has to be able to maintain an erection. So being turned on and not feeling it’s his duty, is probably a fair request.

He's asked you not to tell him it’s ovulation time. He doesn’t want sex to be a job on the list with cleaning the bathroom. He wants you to seduce him. I doubt he means all singing and dancing, but sometimes all I need to do is send my husband a cheeky message or wear some fancy knickers under a tight pair of jeans and he’s good to go. Basically it sounds like he wants to know you actually want to have sex with him because you fancy him and enjoy it.

TherapyFrog · 14/07/2025 06:27

partygate · 14/07/2025 03:53

How long have you been with him? Would this be your first child with him? He seems incredibly immature and selfish. If you both want a baby, you both should be putting the effort in. Do you really want to be raising a baby with someone like him?

^^
I understand it’s pressuring to TTC but for goodness sake all he needs to do is have sex. You’ve got all the medical appts, body tracking etc to do. I’d also be annoyed about having another thing added to the list ….but truthfully would have me questioning if he really wants a child and also how he would cope when/if you have a child. It’s not a good sign that he can’t even pull his finger out for something that is pretty good fun and easy to do!

Swan6 · 14/07/2025 06:27

Hereagain334 · 14/07/2025 03:50

Why the fuck should I have to seduce him??? He's taking on zero mental load/responsibility! But whinges about pressure. And loves to boast how he'll 'knock me up'... yet is pretty much incapable.

Agree ,he sounds like a dick
My fanny would of slammed shut had my DH said that to me
We have DC and every time my DH jokingly said there was no trying for a baby .it was ..shall we have a baby ,bam , pregnant.
But had he of come out with what yours said ,yuk ..no trying no baby .
He doesn't want to be part of the process,he wants no responsibility,
Does he actually want children..I would of assumed not if mine had been like this .
Sounds like a complete man child

Ribecx · 14/07/2025 06:26

SamiSnail · 14/07/2025 05:57

But it's also not normal for her to expect her husband to 'perform' on command and be like a robot with no foreplay.

If a man treated his wife like that, we'd be rounding on him and rightfully so. As wrong as it is for the husband not to have interest in knowing the fertile days (ever thought maybe that is a protection mechanism so it's not in his mind so he doesn't feel pressure to perform? Sounds like a good strategy to me) the OP doesn't sound like she sees her husband as a human, just a robot to perform on command.

Speaking of seeing people as human, perhaps husband needs a little more empathy around the fact that OP is going through what will potentially be one of the most difficult experiences of her life, and just leaving her to it (fertility treatment).

Neither are without fault - as is almost always the case in relationships - and as in my longer post above, it sounds like they have a lot to work on before thinking about bringing a baby into this.

HarkerandBarker · 14/07/2025 06:24

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Zanadoo45 · 14/07/2025 06:24

Doesn’t bode well for a loving home to bring children into.

Greenelandahoy · 14/07/2025 06:22

simsbustinoutmimi · 14/07/2025 04:06

Immature and selfish for not always being up for sex straight away? You need to be in the mood to have sex, not just for OP to say “I’m ovulating today we need to do it now”

good lord imagine if the sexes were reversed and he wanted to and she felt used

TTC is hard on the guy too and everyone forgets that

Most men would drop their pants for a shag.
(my long life experience tells me that).

If he wants the baby you have to make the effort!

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EternalLodga · 14/07/2025 06:22

Im just thinking if it was reversed and men had a certain window of the month when their sperm was potent. Just imagining DP looking at me solemnly saying "we need to have sex tonight, my sperm is on". It just kinda repulses me.
Hes saying just come onto him when youre fertile and it makes perfect sense.

However your parting shot of "...which he struggles to produce at the best of times" makes me think there's more layers in this relationship. It sounds like you've reached breaking point with him. Have you considered breaking up and using a donor?