To feel like some reasonable adjustments are actually unreasonable

No it’s absolutely not fair. You should not be inconvenienced by someone else. This provision has gone too far.

I see your argumement but dissagree. Employers wouldn't dock someones pay who has ibs and uses the bathroom more or someone who has to inject insulin during working hours.

Its a difficult situation and i wish your family all tbe best

Why, if she’s not working the same hours as her colleagues? Seems unfair on her colleagues, no?

Tbf she has a learning disability too so we are looking at fairly menial jobs - the trouble is it is obvious she has a learning disability (she went to a specialist needs school for starters) so she would reveal that and so it would be inappropriate to reveal half the story if you see what I mean.

The epilepsy does massively impact what she can and can't do, her availability (a seizure means she sleeps all day).

I guess I'm agreeing with the OP about some adjustments being too much.

For example she volunteered in a hospital . They wanted her to make cups of tea and push people in wheelchairs but health and safety wouldn't let her near hot water or be in charge of a wheelchair. And tbf that's understandable. So the whole volunteering fell apart. Because of the learning disability they didnt have other jobs she could do.

The Gov is pretty naive imo. My daughter gets loads of PIP points btw she won't lose hers. But the point is going to apply to other disabled people.

I have a colleague who is now allowed to work from home 4/5 days a week for health issues. We are a small team of 5 and minimum two need to be in the office at any one time. Since this adjustment was given the other 4 of us need to come to office more often (works out 3 days instead of 2 or even more during holidays etc), which is more expensive for me and affects my work/life balalnce, missing gym classes, time with kids etc. is that fair?

No. She gets full pay for her job

I'm in a similar boat to the OP. I have to cover all the office based tasks of a colleague who is physically capable of going into the office, but does not on the grounds of mental health. She also doesn't pick up any extra tasks to compensate, which means my workload is higher. I'm sick of it.

And her pay is cut accordingly, which would be right. So the nurse gets a wage cut of 5 minutes x (however many patients she sees) x however many days she works per month?

Reduced hours wouldnt help. She needs a short break after every patient as she has autism and gets overwhelmed. She went to occupational health who suggested it and the trust went along with it.

I think people saying OP needs to simply challenge the line manager/employer about workload are being a bit naive. Most people in commercial environments don’t want to put their head above the parapet and be seen to be moaning/struggling with workload as they worry they will be seen as not up to the job. Obviously if you have a disability necessitating a reasonable adjustment that’s a different conversation, but assuming that’s not the case, people don’t want to tell their boss they can’t cope as it’s potentially a bit risky! They won’t just say sorry and take work off you or recruit an extra person…..

Or works reduced hours

Yes but the altwrnarive is she doesn't work at all.

But the law allows aprr of their job to be removed as an adjustment

Oh, and if we all did that. Waiting lists get longer. Yippee!

The important thing here is to be very clear where the problem lies, and its not with your disabled colleagues. You need to talk to your manager about your work load, the pressure you're under, the disproportionate times you get allocated challenging tasks etc. You don't need to link this to the RAs, make it about you.

People keep saying this, that it's about "blaming" the person with the disability, and they have nothing to do with it.

I think that's a misunderstanding, people aren't blaming the person for being disabled, they are blaming the manager for being unfair with the way the work is being managed or paid. But it is clearly in relation to that employee, because that is the ostensible reason for those decisions and expectations.

In some cases people do seem to be taking the piss, in which case people aren't unreasonable to be annoyed, but in general, they are not blaming people for being disabled, they are annoyed at the work situation.

Your daughter shouls get the job then declare it on day one in my opinon. Is this an option?

Why the bold type lol?

See, that type of response is what people are getting really tired of.

Yes, the point being to do their job. Not cause part of their job to be done by someone else. Whilst getting paid the same.

My friend is a nurse and as a reasonable adjustment gets a 5 minute break between patients other staff often complaoj but those are what she needs to work

Of course the Gov thinks that people who will lose their PIP under its proposals will be able to find work, whereas companies often struggle to make the adjustments needed so don't want to employ these people.

My daughter has epilepsy can't even do volunteering because of health and safety assessments.

It is a problem.

Yeah it's difficult i agree. I feel like most healthy decent people would have no issue with someone in a wheelchair asking you to get the printed papers etc though but i guess it is complex

The issue is that the greedy rich people at the top want maximum profit, so spend as little on staffing as possible. Or government funded employers are majorly lacking in funding and/or structural issues mean work load isn’t shared properly. But people who need reasonable adjustments absolutely should get them.

Just to clarify — stress on its own might not always count as a disability, but if it’s linked to conditions like anxiety or depression, and those have a long-term effect on someone’s ability to carry out day-to-day tasks, then it absolutely can be considered a disability under the Equality Act.

You don’t need to be in a wheelchair or have a visible condition to be protected by the law — mental health is just as valid. Dismissing it or making digs based on assumptions is risky, unfair, and frankly not something any decent employer would tolerate.

If you look at ACAS etc they give a similar example to this but say it's up to management to look at responsibilities and workload. So for example this employee can't safely/hygienically take out the rubbish but they might deal fantastically with a particular difficult client or they might have a great phone manner so do extra cover on reception - you have to look at what people are good at not just what they would struggle with.

If this is how it's working, your employer is doing RAs wrong. Because the idea is that the adjustments enable the disabled person to do their full job. Your employer either doesn't understand this or cant be bothered to do it properly, because its absolutely not about simply taking elements of the job away from people who can't do them, but finding a way to make sure they can, adjusting the job itself and the way its done perhaps. If this isn't possible without placing undue strain on others, the adjustment isn't reasonable.
The important thing here is to be very clear where the problem lies, and its not with your disabled colleagues. You need to talk to your manager about your work load, the pressure you're under, the disproportionate times you get allocated challenging tasks etc. You don't need to link this to the RAs, make it about you.