To think Rachel Reeves patronised the public with her rhetoric on cash ISAs?!

Speaking of 14 years, are you usually so ‘quick’ with your retorts?

This one only took you two days.

Ahem.

The tories lasted fourteen years. Now that's laughable.

And they must think that “the working people” are thick as two short planks and have not noticed that frozen tax thresholds = tax increase.

Yes its the "working people" slogan when in reality they mean union members only. They don't mean the people who work to pay the majority of the tax income. Those people are seemingly just a cash cow for Labour = huge feeling of "why bother".

I am no fan of Rachel Reeves but, if more taxes have to be raised, cutting the cash ISA allowance is not outrageous. The original plan was that, while you could invest £7k a year in an ISA, only £3k of that could be in cash. If you hate the idea of cutting the cash ISA allowance, what would you do instead? Put an extra 1% onto income tax? There aren’t all that many options available - it’s likely that the VAT on school fees will end up costing money and “taxing the rich” makes them leave.

The messaging from Labour has been very uncomfortable - often it sounds as though they have a real distaste for the people who generate the bulk of tax raised. Bridget Phillipson’s tweet about “our children deserve…” comes across as her not believing that children in private schools are any who need her consideration. The overall impact may be that those who have some wealth will not feel as though they owe the UK government anything - I’ve very little invested in UK stocks (and am totally out of the FTSE 250).

Yep it won’t be Labour but Corbyn and Reform

I think the desperation is mainly in Labour’s assumption they will make the next four years to a GE.

I find that prospect laughable.

Where Germany introduced voting for under 18s - a policy pushed by the Greens- many actually voted fro the right wing AFD party so it certainly back fired there.

I imagine the same will happen in the UK. Some will vote for the Greens and the new Corbyn party but many will vote for Reform.

I miss the 😆 button

It’s a bit desperate from Starmer but it may well backfire.

I believe infants and 1 year olds are also eligible to pay taxes so on that logic we should lower it much further…..

Sir Keir Starmer was accused of an attempt to “rig the political system” after the Government announced it was handing the vote to 16-year-olds.

The change, which was promised in Labour’s manifesto last summer and will be in place in time for the next general election, will bring the voting age down in line with Scottish and Welsh elections.

The Prime Minister said 16 and 17-year-olds were old enough to pay taxes and they should therefore get a say in the running of the country.

Following Starmer’s logic, can we remove the right to vote for those that don't work or dont pay taxes or serve in the armed forces, on a 'No representation without contribution' principle?

Almost as if putting up costs to employers via NI and NMW would have an impact on employment 🤔

Our company, a charity, had unforseen £1 million bill due to NI rise in April. Result = recruitment freeze, cut budgets + redundancies. But Labour will be "surprised" I'm sure.

Unemployment has climbed to a four-year high, official figures showed, after Rachel Reeves’s tax raid on businesses.

The UK unemployment rate hit 4.7pc in the three months to May, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), which was the highest since early 2021.

Excellent work by Labour. More people off work and on to benefits. The plan to accelerate Britain's decline is fully on track.

Mn is playing up. Ignore the jibes.

It’ll be interesting to see if Labour do the lower voting age that their supporters wanted. Maybe not now Corbyn and Reform could take votes.

Yes, you said that 20 minutes ago.

5/10 is a huge stretch. Majority of population wouldn't give them that.
4 MPs suspended for being knobheadery behaviour in the words of No.10. How is that acceptable language when those MPs were standing up for their constituents, shows the level of contempt in No10 for the electorate. Not sure even Boris would have said that tbh

Young people tend not to vote. From Yougov

However, while previously there had also been a gradual decrease in the Labour share as age rises, in this election, around the same proportion of all age groups below 50 voted for Labour (41% to 46%). For the over 50s the proportion voting Labour decreases more steeply with 34% of 50-59s backing Labour, 28% of 60-69s and just 20% of those 70 or older.

^The Liberal Democrats were backed similarly across age groups, the Green Party did a lot better with younger voters while Reform UK did better amongst older voters.
The median age of a Labour voter is now 46 and the median age of a Conservative voter is 63. For the Lib Dems it is 48, Reform UK 56, and Greens 39^

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49978-how-britain-voted-in-the-2024-general-election

And Labour typically rely on younger voters. Usually they’re pro that until it’s a Corbyn party.

A split as you’ve put wouldn’t help them.

That is poor form from No10.