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When did the narrative around warm weather change?

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Katypp · 13/07/2025 18:37

It used to be considered a lovely thing if we had a warm summer. Older people (me!) have happy memories of summer 76 and endless days playing outside in shorts during the holidays.
No it seems to be considered a bad thing, with people complaing about the heat, getting agitated about children going to school or even going outside at all. Weather forecasters wanging on about 'staying hydrated' as if we are children and delivering the forecasts as if it is a bad thing that we can enjoy nice weather for once.
Why are we so joyless, sucking on to bottles of water as if they were dummies and seemingly afraid to venture outside in case we self-combust.
Yes i know ow global warming and skin cancer but our reaction to a pleasant day is somewhat OTT i think.

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MargoLivebetter · 14/07/2025 11:29

1976 is obviously a stand out, where temperatures were over 30 degrees for 15 consecutive days. If anyone wants a few facts, here are the top 15 hottest summers using means (taken as mean CET [Central England Temperature series] temperatures (in º Celsius) for the three summer months):

1976 17.67
1826 17.60
2018 17.40
1995 17.27
2006 17.27
2022 17.27
2003 17.20
1846 17.10
1983 17.03
1947 17.03
1933 17.00
1911 16.97
1899 16.90
1975 16.83
1959 16.57

Pinepeak2434 · 14/07/2025 11:25

Platosrevenge · 14/07/2025 11:11

The irony.

If it's ironic to question a movement that demands total compliance, shuts down dissent, and gets rich off fear then yeah, I’m irony personified!

Platosrevenge · 14/07/2025 11:11

Pinepeak2434 · 14/07/2025 11:07

It’s not the idea of cleaner air, better efficiency, or even decentralised energy that concerns me. What worries me is how these goals are being pursued under the banner of a 'climate emergency' that I don’t believe is supported by balanced science or open debate. I see a lot of ideology, top-down control, and financial interests driving the agenda, often at the expense of individual freedoms, economic stability, and informed consent.

The irony.

Pinepeak2434 · 14/07/2025 11:07

Shakeoffyourchains · 14/07/2025 11:01

What is it specifically about moving to a more sustainable economy, with responsible production and consumption at its core, underpinned by cheap, clean, reliable efficient, decentralised energy that frightens you so much?

It’s not the idea of cleaner air, better efficiency, or even decentralised energy that concerns me. What worries me is how these goals are being pursued under the banner of a 'climate emergency' that I don’t believe is supported by balanced science or open debate. I see a lot of ideology, top-down control, and financial interests driving the agenda, often at the expense of individual freedoms, economic stability, and informed consent.

KimberleyClark · 14/07/2025 11:05

Shakeoffyourchains · 14/07/2025 10:56

When did the narrative around warm weather change?

When extreme weather events stopped being a once a decade type thing e.g., the summer of 76 or the great storm of 87, and starting becoming an every year/several times a year thing.

Or the big freeze of 1963. I was only a toddler at the time but my parents remembered it well. Started snowing on Boxing Day 1962. It lasted three months.

Shakeoffyourchains · 14/07/2025 11:01

Pinepeak2434 · 14/07/2025 10:23

A little thing called the net zero con.

What is it specifically about moving to a more sustainable economy, with responsible production and consumption at its core, underpinned by cheap, clean, reliable efficient, decentralised energy that frightens you so much?

Shakeoffyourchains · 14/07/2025 10:56

Katypp · 13/07/2025 18:37

It used to be considered a lovely thing if we had a warm summer. Older people (me!) have happy memories of summer 76 and endless days playing outside in shorts during the holidays.
No it seems to be considered a bad thing, with people complaing about the heat, getting agitated about children going to school or even going outside at all. Weather forecasters wanging on about 'staying hydrated' as if we are children and delivering the forecasts as if it is a bad thing that we can enjoy nice weather for once.
Why are we so joyless, sucking on to bottles of water as if they were dummies and seemingly afraid to venture outside in case we self-combust.
Yes i know ow global warming and skin cancer but our reaction to a pleasant day is somewhat OTT i think.

When did the narrative around warm weather change?

When extreme weather events stopped being a once a decade type thing e.g., the summer of 76 or the great storm of 87, and starting becoming an every year/several times a year thing.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 14/07/2025 10:51

Pinepeak2434 · 14/07/2025 10:23

A little thing called the net zero con.

Absolutely! Thank god there's a plucky band of brave rebels armed only with millions of dollars from fossil fuel companies and/or capitalism-at-all-costs billionaires to show us the TRUTH about climate change!!!?!!!!

HarperStern · 14/07/2025 10:31

Personally I wonder when attitudes became narratives.

Swiftie1878 · 14/07/2025 10:25

TrixieFatell · 13/07/2025 18:48

Do you mean the 1976 heatwave where there were plenty of government warnings about the weather, including new Drought Act and the new minister for drought being emoloyed. Or the one where there was an excess death rate rising to 20%. Did the fun also include standpipes being fitted in the streets and parts of the country having water supplies turned off during the day?

Yep. Climate change got a jump on that year.

Pinepeak2434 · 14/07/2025 10:23

A little thing called the net zero con.

WestwardHo1 · 14/07/2025 10:22

As for the drama, clicks mean revenue don't they? And people are more likely to click on dramatic headlines.

WestwardHo1 · 14/07/2025 10:21

While not minimising the effects of climate change AT ALL, I asked my mother if she remembered scores of people dropping dead on a daily basis during the hot summers of 1975/6 and 1984. She said no.

Yes the water shortage was a massive issue.

Happyher · 14/07/2025 10:18

KimberleyClark · 14/07/2025 10:04

In 1976 we were advised to strip wash with a basin of water (I can hear the squeals of horror from some Mumsnetters) or share bath water (when the water wasn’t’t turned off!). Baths were certainly discouraged. And as for washing clothes after every wear, forget it.

Weren’t we told to have no more than 4” water in the bath 😦

KimberleyClark · 14/07/2025 10:04

Happyher · 14/07/2025 07:18

In 1976 there wasn’t an awareness of global warming amongst the general public. We knew about the hole in the ozone but that only affected Australia so we just made the most of the long summer after typically rainy summers. Water consumption wasn’t a high then either as most people didn’t have showers unless it was one of those that you attached to the tap. Twice a week baths were more the norm

In 1976 we were advised to strip wash with a basin of water (I can hear the squeals of horror from some Mumsnetters) or share bath water (when the water wasn’t’t turned off!). Baths were certainly discouraged. And as for washing clothes after every wear, forget it.

Bananacoffee · 14/07/2025 09:59

GasPanic · 14/07/2025 09:43

The narrative changed when we got 24/7 news and info via the internet.

They need to talk about something and the hot weather is an easy story to go on and on and on about. It costs nothing and is a good story for the intern to write up.

The weather at the moment is warm, but not record breaking and in fact is pretty far from it. In fact the highest temperature on Saturday was about 6C below the record.

Just as the web goes on and on about the hot weather, some "newspapers" seem to predict "killer snow" every other week in winter, forums give people the possiblility to have outlets to moan which they never used to have. So they go on and on about it.

You won't find the majority on the forums moaning though. They will be too busy outside enjoying the weather not typing on the internet. So there is probably a selection bias towards people that hate hot weather posting rather than people that like it.

Agree with this, the relentless overload of articles and 24/7 access to them has really made a lot of non events into something major. There's also the loaded rhetoric around global warming which doesnt help.

Happyher · 14/07/2025 09:55

GasPanic · 14/07/2025 09:43

The narrative changed when we got 24/7 news and info via the internet.

They need to talk about something and the hot weather is an easy story to go on and on and on about. It costs nothing and is a good story for the intern to write up.

The weather at the moment is warm, but not record breaking and in fact is pretty far from it. In fact the highest temperature on Saturday was about 6C below the record.

Just as the web goes on and on about the hot weather, some "newspapers" seem to predict "killer snow" every other week in winter, forums give people the possiblility to have outlets to moan which they never used to have. So they go on and on about it.

You won't find the majority on the forums moaning though. They will be too busy outside enjoying the weather not typing on the internet. So there is probably a selection bias towards people that hate hot weather posting rather than people that like it.

Totally agree about 24/7 news. The media go scalp hunting to try and generate more news. They’re all untrustworthy and looking for a gotcha moment

GasPanic · 14/07/2025 09:43

The narrative changed when we got 24/7 news and info via the internet.

They need to talk about something and the hot weather is an easy story to go on and on and on about. It costs nothing and is a good story for the intern to write up.

The weather at the moment is warm, but not record breaking and in fact is pretty far from it. In fact the highest temperature on Saturday was about 6C below the record.

Just as the web goes on and on about the hot weather, some "newspapers" seem to predict "killer snow" every other week in winter, forums give people the possiblility to have outlets to moan which they never used to have. So they go on and on about it.

You won't find the majority on the forums moaning though. They will be too busy outside enjoying the weather not typing on the internet. So there is probably a selection bias towards people that hate hot weather posting rather than people that like it.

EarthlyNightshade · 14/07/2025 09:18

EggCustardTartt · 13/07/2025 23:50

What I can't reconcile is how many people complain about our crap English weather but also complain when we get weather akin to that of the places they pay to holiday at.

If all I needed to do with sit by the pool, swim in the sea and relax in lovely restaurants then I would like hot weather.
But unfortunately I and a lot of other people have to work and get on with daily life in high temperatures.
The fields around me are scorched, there is potential for fires and crop failure, water shortages and believe it or not, excess deaths. Lots of people and animals struggle in hot weather - I don't really understand why this is surprising to so many - especially those harking back to a summer almost 50 years ago.

DashboardConfession · 14/07/2025 08:33

Some people do need reminding about hydration. My cousin is a carer for the elderly in their homes and they've had to get in extra staff, because quick visits are turning into calling ambulances and picking dehydrated clients up off the floor. The warnings on weather forecasts aren't aimed at people in their 20s brandishing Stanley cups on the tube.

Lactofull · 14/07/2025 08:22

Katypp · 13/07/2025 21:57

No not retired.
Don't have to do school run now but ot sure how that's relevant?

You have kids OP?

Do you spout this kind of view re the good ol days and how “back in my day” and how pathetic the current generation is you think?

CandidRaven · 14/07/2025 08:15

I spend most of the summer feeling ill because I have such bad hay fever that I can't breathe, I have to avoid outside for most of the hotter days and I'm permanently checking the pollen count, for me it's a miserable time of year, the other night I was awake most of the night because my eyes were burning and streaming and I was coughing so much I was sick that was from just having a window open for a short part of the day, I much prefer it when it's autumn and winter and dread summer every year

PickAChew · 14/07/2025 07:23

coxesorangepippin · 14/07/2025 01:56

But everyone flocks abroad??

Makes no sense

Not everybody. I've never been on a "hot" holiday. It doesn't appeal at all.

Happyher · 14/07/2025 07:18

In 1976 there wasn’t an awareness of global warming amongst the general public. We knew about the hole in the ozone but that only affected Australia so we just made the most of the long summer after typically rainy summers. Water consumption wasn’t a high then either as most people didn’t have showers unless it was one of those that you attached to the tap. Twice a week baths were more the norm

Lactofull · 14/07/2025 06:52

I had to check I hadn’t accidentally ended up on grans net

all this nonsense talk of “back in the good ol’ day”

“Kids these days aren’t resilient”

today’s generation is “pathetic”

honestly, I’m a 44 year old woman with two teens. If I ever start talking like some of the posters on this thread, I hope the end is quick!