When did the narrative around warm weather change?

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I think it looks pretty shocking on this graph, source

How would it be a bummer if none of that happened? It would be fantastic!

The best case scenario we have at our current state of global heating is a permanently altered planet where we have to disrupt the way we live to cope with more and more extreme weather events, fires, floods, tidal disruption, the death of many species because we moved to netflix zero too late. The worst case scenario is a global climate systems collapse where the habitable, temperate areas of our planet shrink to such extent that billions and billions die.

You might not be around to find out. Imagine the wars, famine, suffering and human misery that would cause for our children's or grandchildren's generations.

So the settled consensus of the world's climate scientists is that carbon emissions since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution have led to accelerated climate change, but Pinepeak2434 on Mumsnet has her own yoonique take. Good work, Professor.

It’s rained today in London, on St Swithun’s day. So we’re guaranteed forty days of rain. Are the sun haters happy now?

We associate the heat with bad things like global warming. We associate the sun with bad things like skin cancer. We are hyper aware of dangers to our health from overheating/dehydration due to media messaging about dangers of overheating/dehydration. Smaller homes and gardens, more people crowded in everywhere and more pollution makes being outside less pleasant. We are fatter and older than we were in 1976.

Both can be true at the same time. Water companies poor management doesn’t eliminate the fact that we are in drought. Exactly what I was trying to say earlier. There being leaks doesn't mean people shouldn't try and conserve water. It's not a limitless resource just because you're a customer and pay for it.

Both can be true at the same time. Water companies poor management doesn’t eliminate the fact that we are in drought.

and yes, I am an angry Thames water customer who wishes they would just fucking bring it into public ownership!

I'm old too, absolutely hated the summer of 1976. It was stiflingly hot, people were suffering from heatstroke and there were water shortages. I don't like very hot weather, much prefer cooler days and always have.

have you noticed there’s a hosepipe ban across many parts of the UK because we’ve had the driest spring and summer in over 100 years. All this made so much more likely because of our changing climate

Well that and the fact the water industry keeps pissing away water by failing to fix the leaks and dig new reservoirs for the hundreds of thousands of people piling into the country while paying themselves fat bonuses instead.

And the fact that it's normally young people who are fine with dealing with hot weather because they are as a cohort in relatively good health, plus the fact that babies and older people have a generally poorer capability at regulating their body temperature and so feel heat and cold more.

Sure it’s “nice” weather, but only if you see it outside of the context of wider climate changes.

have you noticed there’s a hosepipe ban across many parts of the UK because we’ve had the driest spring and summer in over 100 years. All this made so much more likely because of our changing climate.

It’s not “nice weather” - it’s weather that is costly to health and economy. It might be nice to you now, but wait until you’re in your late 80s and you’ll be struggling in the heat.

try asking a farmer whether this is lovely weather or hell .

I don’t even know where to begin with people who think that the new normal of heatwaves is preferable to what we had before.

1659 early enough for you? Or shall we be conservative and opt for 1914?

Well, apart from having sun cream at all in the UK, never mind SPF6, was weird and for 'fussy women because it's not as if they're abroad/the point of going abroad was to get as brown (or burned) as possible, no point going if you're not going to come back with a deep tan'.

Not only was there huge metal jugs of water provided at every meal in school, it was constantly available from multiple fountains in the playgrounds (in addition to the milk being given out first thing so it was cold).

Anybody who did have a car would stick a (tartan) blanket in the back for the multiple kids bundling in to avoid burning legs - except the ones in the boot section who were cooler rattling around with the spare and the back window open - and babies were usually underneath parasols clipped onto buggies and prams. Except for Wednesday and Saturday afternoons and all day Sunday when the shops were closed, so they'd be indoors. And Monday was washday, so indoors for that, too, Tuesday morning for shopping for the week...

Oh, and those people who did do the sunbathing until they were leather are (the surviving ones at any rate) dealing with cataracts and skin cancer now.

Apart from that, yeah, it's a complete lack of moral fibre.

Why a sunbed?

The one that amused me is the bloke in pub with the 'look at me, I'm so clever' attitude the 'climate change is to tax everyone and doesn't exist' followed by 'the psychotic bastards are spraying to change the weather'
So we can change weather but its beyond belief that we are influencing climate.

This is an English phenomenon.

in Scotland we are grateful for the 2-3 days of summer we get each year.

and find the constant reporting of the ‘UK’ heatwave tedious and tone deaf.

It will be a bit of a bummer though if non of that stuff actually happens.

This is the problem with Project Fear.

It's not like governments don't have form for it.

I think climate change is a really interesting problem. Maybe the first problem we have that is on a timescale longer than our political systems operate, and also on a timescale longer than many people alive today will live.

Will human beings be like bacteria in a petri dish and just use up all the resources and die ?

Or will they succeed in managing their way out of the problem ? And how with the competition for resources pan out, how will those resources be distributed ?

I doubt I am going to be around to find out.

Ive been both a size 28 and a size 12 and i hated this kind of heat just as much both times. im also in a top floor flat which was hot to start with but health and safety and fire safety rules have turned it into even more of a sweatbox.

I think people look at the 'old days' through rose tinted specs. I reckon a lot of the problem with hot weather nowadays is that we seem to be getting more and more of it. I know a lot of people will disagree,indeed I am totally expecting a lot of people to say oh we've had a lousy summer this year, even though we've had 3 heatwaves so far,with another one possibly looming. Britain is meant to have a temperate climate, meaning that we don't really get extremes of heat or cold,but over the last couple of decades,really cold or really hot weather seems to be becoming far more common. I think what a previous poster said about a higher proportion of the population being overweight or obese doesn't help. I know from personal experience that being very overweight makes you feel the heat a lot more. I have lost a considerable amount of weight over the last few years and it has helped quite a bit with my tolerance to heat, although I still don't enjoy anything over 25 degrees. Also the urbanisation of so many places now. All the buildings and concrete traps and retains the heat so even when it does cool down after several days of high temperatures,it still feels pretty warm. I can guarantee that whenever there is an announcement about the highest temperature reached on any particular day,where I live near Heathrow airport will be one of the places as there's so many tall buildings and miles of concrete.

If you need to ask OP, you won't like the answer. Off to your sunbed.

https://constructionmanagement.co.uk/housing-ombudsman-publishes-report-on-leaks-maladministration/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/20129903/water-bill-housing-association-failed-fix-leak/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1666005526

"We" also need to get far more proactive about the proper use of water. It seems that because of misuse and bad administration, unless we have long rainy spells, water shortages start occurring. I feel this is another consequence of the privatisation of water - users are being treated as customers rather than water being treated as a precious resource. Water companies' main policy when things get a little dry is to hope it rains soon rather than pre-empting any issues. I saw quotes from consumer groups yesterday who are outraged at the thought of being more conservative about water use, because they are customers and there are leaks. Yes there are leaks, but in the meantime, we still need to be more careful with our water consumption. Long twice daily showers and washing towels after every use are unnecessary.

Most of the people posting on here who remember 1976 were probably still kids at the time. Of course we only remember wall to wall sunshine and playing out all day, and the novelty of stand pipes and all those ladybirds. I think the adults around at the time might have been a bit more concerned. Unrelenting sunshine with no rain on the horizon for weeks on end is not something to celebrate.