Measles vaccination.

Honestly I think the 2 main problems are non English speaking communities not understanding the schedule and secondly parents having to take time off work to take a child to be vaccinated. Not all parents can easily miss work then add in difficulties getting an appointment in the first place. I believe that the bringing forward of the 2nd MMR dose to 18months old will help uptake. It's also less traumatic for an 18 month old than a 3 yr old.

Oh what proper studies are these? I’d love to read the science based evidence concluding the ingredients are indeed “harmful”.

I read this child was vaccinated but had other health issues?

Great, here's your medal

@Poohbear333. This kind of post makes me so cross. People forget that vaccines eradicated smallpox and Measles was almost eradicated in this country until people stopped vaccinating their children. The HPV vaccine has eradicated cervical cancer by 95% and is on track to eradicate it completely by 2040. I’m not saying that a very small minority have had side effects but it is by far better to vaccinate than not.

I know more about MMR than you. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5e021b9140f0b6665e80187b/Greenbook_chapter_21_Measles_December_2019.pdf

Well I was born in the 80s and my mum woyldn5 vaccinate me. My sister had her vaccinations as a baby and toddler. Or do you know more about my family history than me?

Sorry if this has already been said but just wanted to make it clear there is a porcine gelatine free MMR vaccine available. Just in case anyone reads this post and thinks they can’t have it because of gelatine.

DS caught measles as a baby from an unvaccinated child of a friend who wasn’t yet showing symptoms (I also didn’t know they were unvaccinated).

It turned into pneumonia which is the most cause of measles related deaths. It was, frankly, terrifying. The risk of complications from measles is so much higher than any vaccination risk that I just can’t get my head around not doing it. I try to understand other people’s point of view but there is decades of research to back the MMR up.

I did look it up. 1988 in the UK. Individual vaccines before that.

I was born 77. My mother refused to sign the consent so my grandparents ( who had custody of me) could get me vaccinated. I had mumps as a child and at the age of 47 got diagnosed with autism and adhd. Unfortunately my mother died before I could tell her how wrong she was.

Either lack of intelligence or lack of care for their children.

From a number of studies

• “vaccines contain harmful ingredients such as aluminium, mercury formaldehyde, human Fetal cells, dna, animal proteins & dna, glyphosate, polysorbsyes, other carcinogens, neurotoxins and toxins. When injected it bypasses the body’s natural defence system and becomes far more potent. Formaldehyde has been banned from injectables in most European countries but not in the uk. Any level of Aluminium is linked to Alzheimer’s, seizures, dementia, sids and cancer. It also accumulates in the brain. “ please ask your gp or HV what the ingredients are within the vaccine that you are injecting into your child, you may be surprised at the response. Do the research. Make your decision based on informed consent, not from sm hype.

Look it up 1970s

But MMR was only introduced in 1988, in the UK?

There are a lot of extremely stupid people in this country (and the world). You only need to scan the comment section of Facebook to see this.

My personal theory is this is natural selection in reverse, stupid people reproduce with stupid people and their offspring are even more stupid.

To be honest the theories that the mmr causes autism has been going around for years. My sister born in the 70s was autistic (sadly no longer with us) and my Mum absolutely believed the supposed link. Subsequently myself and my other siblings weren't vaccinated against anything as she believed this is what caused my sister's autism. I remember secondary school not going for the vaccinations that all my friends went for. I however absolutely do not believe this, I am now fully vaccinated and so are my dc. This is not just social media but a myth that has hung around since the beginning. Unfortunately sm seems to spread those nonsense far and wider than ever before. Thank goodness I didn't get measles but did have mumps as a child.

My DC have had all their routine vaccinations and more, such as the Hep B because they were too old for when that was brought out for babies. Also travel vaccinations.

I wouldn't call my parents anti-vax but for some reason I wasn't given the measles vaccine. That was before the MMR vaccine came out but I don't know if my parents had heard scare stories at the time. I had all manner of childhood illnesses, including measles, german measles, mumps etc. Yes, in most cases they may be mild illnesses but I wouldn't take the risk on my DC.

I live in hackney where uptake is 60% It's terrifying. A large part is down to ethnicity. The black community was experimented on in the past and that memory lingers. The CIA used the vaccination program in Pakistan to spy when they were hunting Bin Laden-huge suspicion there still. Some ethnicities don't trust western medicine and would prefer to trust doctors in their county. As grateful as I am for the COVID vaccine and accept it was a good thing, we should have been open that there were some people that had severe side effects, as is possible with a vaccine. And yes, fucking Wakefield has so, so much to answer for.

It's important to remember that people who refuse vaccines are doing it out of a (misplaced) love and concern for their child. We have to work harder to overcome hesitancy.

My neighbour has 4 kids and she proudly told me when I told her I was pregnant that none of hers are vaccinated and 'you won't, will you?'.

Her fb is full of anti vax and anti covid nonsense. One son is 10 and has quite severe developmental delay which she is completely convinced is down to him being vaccinated. The fact he couldn't be diagnosed until he was older and was showing multiple signs of autism before the vaccine doesn't register with her.

Wakefield has blood on his hands and we'll be giving them all a very wide berth when baby arrives.

I’m in Liverpool (shocking ha!) and DS’s school have been sending emails about if for a few weeks.

YANBU- anti vaxxers are stupid and have blood on their hands. I honestly think a lot of them don’t realise how bad these illnesses are - because of vaccination. It’s awful that they are willing to
endanger their own children, as well as others

Between 2000 and 2023, there have been 9 deaths of UK people born after 1968 (measles vaccine introduced). This is part of a continuing downward trend. This does not point towards an increase in deaths since the 1998 Lancet paper.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles-deaths-by-age-group-from-1980-to-2013-ons-data/measles-notifications-and-deaths-in-england-and-wales-1940-to-2013

The number of cases per year, also continues to fall..

And vaccine rates have been increasing... since 2003.. which does not support the argument that more people are not vaccinating than before.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/378638/measles-mumps-and-rubella-immunisation-completed-by-year-in-england/

This is a tragic case of an ill child who has died, because their immune system was compromised due to treatment for another illness

So important to vaccinate. I had measles as a child and was so, so poorly. I also had German measles and whooping cough. I think the whooping cough damaged mine and my brother’s lungs as we were both diagnosed asthmatic shortly after. My 4 had all their vaccines (actually one had double mmr due to a mix up but that’s a whole other story!).

It’s Andrew Wakefield. I come across vaccine hesitancy and anti-vaxxers in my job a lot and I have to explain the nuances of that ‘study’ and that excuse of a Dr every week. Misinformation based on that and spread through communities because they’ve never seen a child with measles/meningitis/pertussis.

I will always remember a woman saying to me when I was unpicking their vaccine hesitancy, ‘but we don’t get those diseases anymore do we’. Sure, BECAUSE OF VACCINES. Apart from the fact that we do, as this tragic case shows

Do you think that’s increased in recent years or been consistently high for a long time? My rough memory is that it was a big cause for concern 20 years ago, then really wasn’t for some time, but has been in the press again more in the last couple of years.