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To think overnights at their dads will have to stop soon?

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cadburyegg · 13/07/2025 13:49

I share two boys age 10 and 7 with my ex husband. He lives in a 1 bed flat and has done since the break up. He has the children EOW and every Monday night. When they are there they sleep in his bed and he sleeps on a camp bed in the living room. This was fine to start with, when we broke up they were 5 and 2 so no issue but as they are getting older it’s playing on my mind that they need their own beds really.

I bought him out of the house 2 years ago and we got a financial clean break. My solicitor said I was very generous with the settlement he got (6 figures) but we live in a pricy area and my exh doesn’t have a high income, so I wanted him to have a decent deposit which would hopefully enable him to buy somewhere suitable for when the children stay with him. That hasn’t happened, and since then he’s gone self employed and doesn’t earn much (as far as I can tell - CMS say he doesn’t have to pay maintenance).

I have told exh that he needs to sort proper beds for the children if they are to carry on staying there. I’ve suggested the beds that zip together but can detach which would mean they would have separate beds. He won’t consider it and said he can’t get more beds and can’t move yet.

AIBU to say they won’t be able to stay there when ds10 starts secondary? Or can they carry on like they are for a few more years? Ds10 said he doesn’t mind but ds7 says he has trouble sleeping there. I am stressing a bit because if the overnights stop I am going to have to change childcare arrangements or possibly even find another job….

Some thoughts please?

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244milesnorth · 13/07/2025 16:12

I wouldn’t be allowing overnights without their own beds.

why should they have to share - their dad isn’t forced to share with someone else so why is it ok for his children

id end overnights and tell him to get the beds or take you to court

TomatoSandwiches · 13/07/2025 16:11

x2boys · 13/07/2025 16:04

Ffs,social service's,have better things to be doing with their time then telling off a dad for not having separate beds.

That doesnt mean that SS shouldn't be asked to look at this.

Ponoka7 · 13/07/2025 16:10

He could bed share with the eldest and the youngest takes the camp bed. It is up to the children. Also childcare needs will change when your eldest is a teen and more self sufficient. So I wouldn't be worrying.

Mindymomo · 13/07/2025 16:07

My brothers shared a double bed until one moved out at age 23, I don’t see a problem until your DS don’t want to do this anymore.

cadburyegg · 13/07/2025 16:07

The only thing I’ve said to the children was just me asking them today if they minded sharing a bed there.

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cadburyegg · 13/07/2025 16:06

Ok, fair enough if I’m being unreasonable. I just think they should have their own space that’s all, there’s not “another reason”. It makes my life much easier if they can stay there. I don’t think my concern is being controlling tbh but like I said, I’ll accept that I’m being concerned for nothing.

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x2boys · 13/07/2025 16:06

TomatoSandwiches · 13/07/2025 16:03

Yes, if one or both children are uncomfortable with the living/sleeping arrangement then their father needs to be told they need separate beds.
Tbh its not long for the children to make their own choice and vote with their feet , but being made to share beds is not appropriate at their ages.

They really wont.

LlynTegid · 13/07/2025 16:05

I think they should have their own beds. You don't say how far away their dad lives, which if nearby does mean one or both could come home at night if it becomes unreasonable or unworkable.

x2boys · 13/07/2025 16:04

TomatoSandwiches · 13/07/2025 15:57

The 10yr old will start puberty soon and will have night time emissions, they do need separate beds, not necessarily separate rooms but yes.
I would talk to social services about this, they could do an assessment on the accommodations provided by their father and make recommendations for him to follow.

Ffs,social service's,have better things to be doing with their time then telling off a dad for not having separate beds.

TomatoSandwiches · 13/07/2025 16:03

IwouldlikeanewTV · 13/07/2025 16:00

For goodness sake. Emissions ???? Social services?????

do you really think SS will be interested when there are children in the UK without a bed, no food and dirty clothes.

Yes, if one or both children are uncomfortable with the living/sleeping arrangement then their father needs to be told they need separate beds.
Tbh its not long for the children to make their own choice and vote with their feet , but being made to share beds is not appropriate at their ages.

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 13/07/2025 16:02

What’s the real reason you want to stop overnights op?

caringcarer · 13/07/2025 16:01

If they are both boys and he's happy to give up his double bed I think you should leave them to it. When he is parenting it's not for you to decide what happens at his place.

Hankunamatata · 13/07/2025 16:01

As long as its a double bed he can buy the boys sleeping bags if they are sleeping on the same bed.

Its only eow.
I often used to sleep in my nans bed when I stayed with her on a weekend or slept on the sofa

IwouldlikeanewTV · 13/07/2025 16:00

TomatoSandwiches · 13/07/2025 15:57

The 10yr old will start puberty soon and will have night time emissions, they do need separate beds, not necessarily separate rooms but yes.
I would talk to social services about this, they could do an assessment on the accommodations provided by their father and make recommendations for him to follow.

For goodness sake. Emissions ???? Social services?????

do you really think SS will be interested when there are children in the UK without a bed, no food and dirty clothes.

IwouldlikeanewTV · 13/07/2025 15:59

You need to step back. They don’t need their own beds. My two slept on airbeds at their dads for years. Now they are strapping young men with a lovely relationship with their dad.

dont interfere.

TomatoSandwiches · 13/07/2025 15:57

The 10yr old will start puberty soon and will have night time emissions, they do need separate beds, not necessarily separate rooms but yes.
I would talk to social services about this, they could do an assessment on the accommodations provided by their father and make recommendations for him to follow.

BlackCatGreyWhiskers · 13/07/2025 15:57

It’s not ideal but I think you’re being unrealistic if you really think it’s a deal breaker.

DuskyPink1984 · 13/07/2025 15:57

Such nonsense, they’re both boys, they're young and sharing the same room doesn’t mean they can’t get changed separately.

Your only concern should be whether you are negatively influencing your children on the matter (youngest, especially from what you have written). Leave them be and try not to be so controlling and encourage the relationship with their father.

JLou08 · 13/07/2025 15:56

YABU. 2 brothers sharing a bed every other weekend isn't going to do them any harm. When I was a teen most weekends were spent at sleepovers sharing a single bed.

x2boys · 13/07/2025 15:55

UpsideDownChairs · 13/07/2025 15:53

TBH, I really don't see that this is an issue until the kids find it a big issue at least. My two shared a bed on purpose at that age (we moved quite often, and were often in temporary flats where there was only a double bed for them to share anyway, but mainly because they were used to having someone near)

Even now, when they're both teens (similar age gap) - when we go on holiday and the hotel has a double and a single, they might share (it depends who's been annoying each other the most/what the single looks like - eg. if it's small, I'm the shortest to I take it, and they'll share, otherwise it might be me and one of them)

Mine don't generally stay over at their dad's but, I think that when they do they share a bed (despite him having a massive house) - just for comfort really - it's a strange place for them to sleep in, so they prefer to be in the same room - and he doesn't bother with a kid spare room, just has double beds.

Yes,I often shared with my sister even though we both had our own rooms.

UpsideDownChairs · 13/07/2025 15:53

TBH, I really don't see that this is an issue until the kids find it a big issue at least. My two shared a bed on purpose at that age (we moved quite often, and were often in temporary flats where there was only a double bed for them to share anyway, but mainly because they were used to having someone near)

Even now, when they're both teens (similar age gap) - when we go on holiday and the hotel has a double and a single, they might share (it depends who's been annoying each other the most/what the single looks like - eg. if it's small, I'm the shortest to I take it, and they'll share, otherwise it might be me and one of them)

Mine don't generally stay over at their dad's but, I think that when they do they share a bed (despite him having a massive house) - just for comfort really - it's a strange place for them to sleep in, so they prefer to be in the same room - and he doesn't bother with a kid spare room, just has double beds.

x2boys · 13/07/2025 15:48

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 13/07/2025 15:16

When I left exh I did get Cafcass involved as he was a narcissistic cunt. Home visit to ensure the dc did indeed have their own beds and own storage for personal belongings.. Please don't say it's bullocks without experience..

I suspect there was more going on than just the beds in your case
There are whole families living in one room or very limited space due to being homeless they won't all.have their own bed.

IamnotSethRogan · 13/07/2025 15:42

While it's not ideal it's not terrible and thr relationship with his dad is more important than having perfect sleeping arrangements.

TheLemonLemur · 13/07/2025 15:37

The older child says he doesn't mind so I wouldn't go blazing in stopping overnights he can tell his dad if it's a problem. It's not ideal but as long as you have no safety concerns I don't think there's much else you can do. If your younger child has problems sleeping there they can speak to dad don't quiz him with leading questions as you will know young kids can say anything

MsJemimaPuddleDuck · 13/07/2025 15:26

id buy a single air bedand just send them with them. One on the double, one on the single & dad on the sofa. Problem solved and would only cost £20 max.

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