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To accept a job at another school because a teacher I line manage is so emotionally fragile that I can’t take it anymore?

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HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 12:15

She breaks down on me regularly - crying, panicking, overwhelmed almost every day. I’ve tried to support her as best I can but it’s become emotionally draining and has started affecting my own wellbeing.

I feel guilty for even saying this but I don’t think I can be around it much longer - I’m not a counsellor and the weight of it is starting to make me dread coming in. A new opportunity has come up at another school and I’m tempted to take it just for peace of mind.

AIBU to consider leaving because of this?

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FullDisclosure · 13/07/2025 13:23

This isn't getting any better because you're enabling the situation. You haven't made it clear to her that what she's doing is unacceptable and you haven't made your line managers sit up and take any real notice.

It is not actually helping her, obviously it's making your work life a misery to the point you want to run away. You're doing someone else's job (your line manager's, HR, Occy Health, support services) and they're happy with that.

You've had some excellent advice on what to do next from PP. Only take another job if you would want to without this situation.

whatsit84 · 13/07/2025 13:22

Not unreasonable at all. It’s very emotionally draining to be someone’s crutch and at some point they need to be signed off work/dealt with by a mental health professional/ get a new job.

Shetlands · 13/07/2025 13:20

HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 13:12

I’ve also tried to be supportive and point her towards professional help but it’s becoming a repeated pattern now and I’m starting to feel out of my depth. What you said about the shock of being kindly but clearly called out really resonates, I think part of the issue is that no one’s drawn the line and she sees me as a safe space, which has unintentionally encouraged the behaviour.

Please don't be the person who 'draws the line'. If she ends up going through a capability procedure, her union will be encouraging her to place blame/ find fault with the support she's had. 'Calling her out' (however kindly) is not your job and it could be cited as unsupportive behaviour. Keep doing what you're doing and nothing more. SLT should be the ones stepping up. (I'm a retired HT but I doubt the capability process has changed hugely).

Huggersunite · 13/07/2025 13:18

HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 13:12

I’ve also tried to be supportive and point her towards professional help but it’s becoming a repeated pattern now and I’m starting to feel out of my depth. What you said about the shock of being kindly but clearly called out really resonates, I think part of the issue is that no one’s drawn the line and she sees me as a safe space, which has unintentionally encouraged the behaviour.

I have ended up in this space with friendships rather than coworkers. I realised that I was trying to fix things that I wasn’t responsible for.

What is your level of responsibility in this. Work only to that level with her and then be quite cold with your boundaries. She is unwittingly I have no doubt, manipulating you to take more responsibility for her than you have. Close that down with her. Chat gpt can help you with phrases to set boundaries.

HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 13:16

Dogaredabomb · 13/07/2025 13:06

Is there something specific going on? A recent bereavement or breakup or is this her personality?

That’s part of what’s made it tricky - there hasn’t been a recent bereavement or breakup (at least not that she’s shared) and this has been ongoing since the start of term. It seems more like a general emotional fragility rather than a situational reaction.

I’ve asked gently a few times if there’s anything in particular going on but she usually just says she feels overwhelmed or anxious. I want to be supportive but I also have to think about the impact on the team and my own wellbeing.

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HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 13:12

Misfiteverywhere · 13/07/2025 13:05

its hard on you to be in this situation. I’ve been in a similar situation where I provided TLC, directed to employee assistance programmes. As it became recurrent I told them that the behaviour was not professional and would hamper their career unless they got it under control, coping mechanisms etc. It did work and over time the crying and upset situations reduced in frequency. I do wonder whether it was the shock of being called out on it that made the difference as they trusted me as we had built up a relationship. Maybe it would work for you?

I’ve also tried to be supportive and point her towards professional help but it’s becoming a repeated pattern now and I’m starting to feel out of my depth. What you said about the shock of being kindly but clearly called out really resonates, I think part of the issue is that no one’s drawn the line and she sees me as a safe space, which has unintentionally encouraged the behaviour.

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savagedaughter · 13/07/2025 13:08

HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 13:02

Thank you - this really helps. It sounds harsh on the surface but I know you’re right. I’ve tried being supportive and gently signposting but I think I’ve avoided having that clear boundary-setting conversation because I didn’t want to make things worse for her.

But you’re right - the emotional reliance is becoming a default dynamic, and that’s not suitable or professional. Your experience gives me confidence to be more direct (but kind) and make sure she understands the impact and limits of what I can hold. I just don’t think she realises how much it’s affecting others, especially me.

Just to say, you are an empathetic person and you are mind reading here when you say "I just don't think she realises how much it's affecting others".

There's no real reason to believe this, she may know full well that she is driving you to distraction and simply be prioritising what she sees as her own needs. She might just be quite selfish and feel entitled to your continued shoulder to cry on.

Do be prepared for her to push back and lash out at you when she realises you are no longer going to be her emotional sponge.

It may not happen like that, but it is a possiblity, and so you should be prepared to be calm and steadfast and stick to your guns regardless.

Shetlands · 13/07/2025 13:08

My advice is to be careful about the advice you give her! For example, do not tell her she's not fit to work. Do not tell her she's being unprofessional. Don't say anything other than what you've been doing eg suggesting the GP and signposting her to support available in school.

The SLT need to be dealing with this and it may end up being a capability issue so make sure you don't tell/advise her anything outside of your own professional responsibilities.

I don't blame you for wanting to escape the situation because it sounds intolerable. If you decide to stay, I think you should seek advice from your union as you're not being supported professionally and what you're having to do on a daily basis is outside of your job description.

Look after yourself. 💐

Chipsahoy · 13/07/2025 13:08

Sounds awful. I had to manage someone, very very young who was made homeless and diagnosed with bpd. It was very difficult. The only thing that helped was when she left. It was emotionally draining. Even a counsellor has just fifty mins once a week with a particular client. 8 hrs a day of the same persons woes is draining. I’d leave.

TaborlinTheGreat · 13/07/2025 13:07

Lioncub2020 · 13/07/2025 12:55

Virtually impossible in teaching. It's why there are so many incompetents.

It's true that sacking teachers is difficult, but it is certainly commonplace for unscrupulous and bullying SLTs to manage out teachers who are too expensive or who question anything. Of course there are some incompetent teachers, as there are in any line of work. They should all be sacked immediately so that they can be replaced by all the excellent, well-qualified ones queuing up to join the profession. Oh hang on...

Dogaredabomb · 13/07/2025 13:06

Is there something specific going on? A recent bereavement or breakup or is this her personality?

Misfiteverywhere · 13/07/2025 13:05

its hard on you to be in this situation. I’ve been in a similar situation where I provided TLC, directed to employee assistance programmes. As it became recurrent I told them that the behaviour was not professional and would hamper their career unless they got it under control, coping mechanisms etc. It did work and over time the crying and upset situations reduced in frequency. I do wonder whether it was the shock of being called out on it that made the difference as they trusted me as we had built up a relationship. Maybe it would work for you?

HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 13:02

ssssskssskchee · 13/07/2025 12:55

I had a similar situation and it took me being kindly blunt with her for her to realise she can’t keep behaving like this. I think when we are in nice, supportive line management, after a while it enables the behaviour and allows them to think it’s ok and keep hanging off others.

I planned a 1:1 carefully and used examples to show her that her behaviour, whilst understandable were not professional or acceptable and that she needed to source support to behave properly a work or there would be higher consequences about her fitness to practice. She was distraught and embarrassed because she’d assumed everyone was fine with her crying and panicking all the time because no one told her they weren’t (to her face). She was in floods and floods of tears and went off sick for a month or so. She did seek support and is better to a point. When she came back I started right off with setting very specific boundaries about what is and isn’t acceptable. We’re getting there.

it’s not ok to cry, panic and lean on you to get through the day - regardless of the reasons. She’s not fit to work and it’s unprofessional. Can you just tell her that in a kind way?

Thank you - this really helps. It sounds harsh on the surface but I know you’re right. I’ve tried being supportive and gently signposting but I think I’ve avoided having that clear boundary-setting conversation because I didn’t want to make things worse for her.

But you’re right - the emotional reliance is becoming a default dynamic, and that’s not suitable or professional. Your experience gives me confidence to be more direct (but kind) and make sure she understands the impact and limits of what I can hold. I just don’t think she realises how much it’s affecting others, especially me.

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tryingtobesogood · 13/07/2025 13:00

ssssskssskchee · 13/07/2025 12:55

I had a similar situation and it took me being kindly blunt with her for her to realise she can’t keep behaving like this. I think when we are in nice, supportive line management, after a while it enables the behaviour and allows them to think it’s ok and keep hanging off others.

I planned a 1:1 carefully and used examples to show her that her behaviour, whilst understandable were not professional or acceptable and that she needed to source support to behave properly a work or there would be higher consequences about her fitness to practice. She was distraught and embarrassed because she’d assumed everyone was fine with her crying and panicking all the time because no one told her they weren’t (to her face). She was in floods and floods of tears and went off sick for a month or so. She did seek support and is better to a point. When she came back I started right off with setting very specific boundaries about what is and isn’t acceptable. We’re getting there.

it’s not ok to cry, panic and lean on you to get through the day - regardless of the reasons. She’s not fit to work and it’s unprofessional. Can you just tell her that in a kind way?

Love this advice too

tryingtobesogood · 13/07/2025 12:58

Ask for a meeting with the Head and tell them you are considering leaving because of this situation. I can guarantee they will not want you to go and leave them with the problem. Be clear that you want her line managed outside the department by a member of SLT and that you will no longer tolerate being her emotional support human.

this happened to my wonderful head of department and the only solution was to remove the management of the person to someone else. In this case the member of staff was abusive and it was not taken seriously until she was screaming at a member of SLT.

neilyoungismyhero · 13/07/2025 12:58

I've ticked yabu but only because as her line manager, respectfully, you need to act like one and deal with the situation appropriately. This cannot be allowed to continue and you need to advise her or escalate further. It's not for you to run away.

savagedaughter · 13/07/2025 12:57

Re your update - this is already affecting your mental health, you are already dreading going to work, have said you feel emotionally drained and are so upset you have writen on mumsnet about it.

ssssskssskchee · 13/07/2025 12:55

I had a similar situation and it took me being kindly blunt with her for her to realise she can’t keep behaving like this. I think when we are in nice, supportive line management, after a while it enables the behaviour and allows them to think it’s ok and keep hanging off others.

I planned a 1:1 carefully and used examples to show her that her behaviour, whilst understandable were not professional or acceptable and that she needed to source support to behave properly a work or there would be higher consequences about her fitness to practice. She was distraught and embarrassed because she’d assumed everyone was fine with her crying and panicking all the time because no one told her they weren’t (to her face). She was in floods and floods of tears and went off sick for a month or so. She did seek support and is better to a point. When she came back I started right off with setting very specific boundaries about what is and isn’t acceptable. We’re getting there.

it’s not ok to cry, panic and lean on you to get through the day - regardless of the reasons. She’s not fit to work and it’s unprofessional. Can you just tell her that in a kind way?

Lioncub2020 · 13/07/2025 12:55

Isitreallysohard · 13/07/2025 12:19

Fire her, she should be leaving not you

Virtually impossible in teaching. It's why there are so many incompetents.

ProudCat · 13/07/2025 12:54

Go for the opportunity, if that's what you want to do. I'm getting the sense that there are some downsides to this though which is why you feel a bit torn.

I think you need to flag your concerns to HR at your current school as the member of staff seems to be failing to meet Teachers' Standards:

No. 8 "Develop effective professional relationships with colleagues, knowing how and when to draw on advice and specialist support."

Part 2 "A teacher is expected to demonstrate consistently high standards of personal and professional conduct."

FlatSandalsGold · 13/07/2025 12:50

I work in the NHS. It’s exhausting supporting people this way, esp when you are dealing with similar work issues and pressures to them, and have other responsibilities at home etc.

You should not leave as you may come across similar people elsewhere.
Only management can make a difference. You need to deal with the practical issues you can address, and then escalate, escalate, escalate.

HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 12:49

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 13/07/2025 12:41

Is there anything you can put in place on her behalf that would actually help her? Remove her from a particular class that she isn’t coping with or help her with her classroom management skills? Her whinging and crying to you isn’t very productive or going to change anything. Can you be a bit clearer with her about your role as a manager and conversely where she needs to go to for emotional support and then enforce those boundaries?

I’ve actually made some adjustments to her timetable already and offered support around classroom strategies but the emotional side of things continues to dominate our interactions. I’ve also been really clear about where my role ends and where professional support is needed, I’ve encouraged her to speak to her GP and reminded her of the wellbeing services available.

The issue is, despite all this, the emotional overwhelm still ends up with me, often daily and it’s starting to feel unsustainable. I’m trying to balance compassion with boundaries but it’s reached a point where I’m questioning whether I can realistically keep absorbing this without it affecting my own mental health.

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TaborlinTheGreat · 13/07/2025 12:49

Isitreallysohard · 13/07/2025 12:19

Fire her, she should be leaving not you

A line manager can't just fire a teacher!

You need to talk to SLT about this, OP. It's not fair that you should feel you have to leave.

savagedaughter · 13/07/2025 12:47

HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 12:15

She breaks down on me regularly - crying, panicking, overwhelmed almost every day. I’ve tried to support her as best I can but it’s become emotionally draining and has started affecting my own wellbeing.

I feel guilty for even saying this but I don’t think I can be around it much longer - I’m not a counsellor and the weight of it is starting to make me dread coming in. A new opportunity has come up at another school and I’m tempted to take it just for peace of mind.

AIBU to consider leaving because of this?

Your feelings of guilt are part of the problem. You are not a support human for her or anyone else and there is no reason to feel guilty about prioritising your own well being.

By all means leave, I think you should, but I think you should also recognise you will have to discourage trauma dumping from unstable people in the future, because there will always be someone with problems looking to latch onto someone who can be dumped upon.

It's not cruel or unfair to say this, and it's not wishing any harm on her or saying she is being harmful to you on purpose - she's probably just too wrapped up in her own issues to realise how unfair she is being.

It's just reality. You can't fix her, but she might manage to break you.

HonestTealPoster · 13/07/2025 12:46

Strangerthanfictions · 13/07/2025 12:39

Kindly this is on you. You need to set firm boundaries, your role is to line manage her, part of that role is to sign post her towards help from qualified or designated individuals should the need arise, there must be a process for duty of care of you are concerned for her well-being, she sounds in a pretty bad way a d has been for a while? Speak to HR/occupational health and higher management urgently to get her appropriate support and start managing her expectations that her overwhelm and stress are things she can flag and discuss with you for the purpose of making plans to deal with it, but you are not actually the person or place TO deal with it and help her work through it. get it documented she is seriously not coping. Talking to you may be enabling her to stay at work and keeping her afloat but having emotional breakdowns with you and you supporting her in that regard is not your role in an ongoing basis and not doing either of you any good at all. Your job here is that she comes and tells you she's not coping or distressed you find out why, deal with any bits that are your remit and point her towards help for the bits that are not.

I’ve done most of what you’ve suggested - I’ve raised concerns, encouraged her to speak to her GP, signposted her to our employee wellbeing support, and flagged the situation with senior staff. The issue is, despite all that, the emotional burden still lands heavily on me day to day, and it’s starting to take a toll.

I absolutely get that part of my role is managing her performance and wellbeing to an extent but as you said, I’m not a counsellor. I think what I’m grappling with now is the toll of constant exposure to someone in crisis. It’s not just about systems and referrals anymore - it’s about how much I can actually absorb on a human level without burning out myself.

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