Parents choosing not to vaccinate their children

Exactly I had measles, German measles and mumps and was quite poorly each time. Why would anyone put their child (and others) at risk?

Agreed.

Yeah, I totally agree, and equally people are allowed to think some of those opinions are illogical.

That point of view is based on no evidence at all though. Opinions can be harmful if people spout them loudly enough.

People are allowed to have a different opinion.

This isn't surprise as minorities are more distrustful of medical professionals. Many significant medical advancements have been made possible through the contributions, experiences, and exploitation of Black people both as scientists and, historically, as subjects of unethical research.

I could be wrong but this study look like it was related to covid and not childhood vaccinations.

I live in a wealthy part of London which is predominately white British. They have one the lowest vaccination rate in London and UK.

It’ll be the fault of all those independent free-thinkers who do their own research. You know, the ones who believe any old shit the internet serves up for them.

The human race is rapidly heading down the plug hole.

You make no sense. If, by your logic, babies cannot cope with a vaccine, how in the hell do you think they’d fare catching an actual disease that vaccines protect against?

Babies have been receiving vaccines for decades with no ill effects but you’re suggesting leaving vaccinations as long as possible and therefore giving them greater opportunity to catch a disease at nursery, school, play centres etc when mixing with others is arguably the most vital for learning? When you’re arguing that their immunity is weaker.

Have you actually heard yourself? Jesus Christ.

I have a friend who is an anti vaxxer. It was covid that brought out her fanatical side but she fell out with any family members who even considered the vaccine.

I thought when we'd moved on from covid that things would have improved but she's even worse now so I've totally distanced myself especially since she claimed that the medics that worked during covid were murderers killing their patients with Etizolam during the pandemic to up the number of deaths for the government. That's when I basically cut her off.

She's one of these people who always thinks she's right despite being of fairly substandard intelligence.

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I’m not sure why but these stats really surprise me… I supposed I just always assumed it’s white MC crunchy mums with kids called things like Tiberius and Amelia who don’t bother to vaccinate

every day is a school day…

Sorry, not read the full thread... I was born before the vaccines were widely available and had measles and German measles as a child and remember being very ill. I caught mumps in early pregnancy as a young adult, the virus affected the development of my babies brain, years later, I'm providing full on 24/7 care to a profoundly disabled adult, dual sensory impaired, under 3 months developmentally, medically fragile etc... So to those of you deciding not to vaccinate your children, that's your choice,but it may not be now that you see the consequences of your actions.

Yes there's loads of data. It differs throughout the UK though. In England, which has higher levels of multiculturalism and immigration vaccine uptake ranges from 90% in children born to white British mothers and reduces to 61% in children born to black mothers, with all children to born to those in minority groups having much lower levels of vaccine uptake..
It's not quite a simple as tik tock videos and hippies not vaccinating their DC.
As our demographics change we are losing our herd immunity.
Uptake in Scotland is much higher overall, near the 95% needed. They have much lower levels of immigration/multiculturalism though and reduced uptake is generally down to poverty, those DC living in poverty are 10% less likely to be vaccinated.

Thank you, this pretty much reflects my personal experience too.

Not mumps.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/south-east/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/05/Vaccination-and-race-religion-and-belief-A4.pdf

I like stats. They're always interesting.

You can break it down into smaller areas by editing table options.

https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/data-tables/school-pupils-and-their-characteristics/2024-25?subjectId=9d3ba466-db06-4726-4f46-08dd736a5cea#filtersForm-indicators

I had the measles a week after my first birthday. My Mother said I nearly died, I was very fortunate. I would never intentionally put my children through that.

Where is he on tour in the US?

I imagine sunk cost fallacy kicks in.

@BoredZelda I haven't described it - that's the point. However you not believing something doesn't make it untrue - a lesson many should heed!

Where I worked it was the children whose families originated from other countries especially Indian subcontinent and much of Africa who had the highest vaccine uptake

Poverty rates have gone right up as these vaccination rates have gone down. I had a quick look at the research earlier and there's a clear association with deprivation.

There could well be some (let's face it, mums) who were more focused on food and housing, safety...

Maybe a well advertised catch up campaign rolled out through food banks.

Please don't jump all over me if this already exists!

My child had cancer and during chemotherapy had no immune system until he could be revaccinated.

It absolutely does affect some people.

I just listened to the excellent podcast on BBC sounds about the tragic death from untreated cancer of the young woman whose mother was that nurse who was always on a megaphone about Covid and now makes a living selling shitty health nonsense online. I mean, Wakefield was a genuine doctor before he was struck off. There are both misguided and wrong people in every profession.