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To think the school were neglectful?

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frogshead · 12/07/2025 09:21

Dd (8) went on a school trip yesterday in a heat wave, 40 minutes each way walking to and from a museum.

I sent dd with 2 bottles of water and she didn’t drink either of them and a hat which she didn’t wear.
She arrived home with a headache and has had diarrhoea since.

I know this was partly down to her but she is juts a child and nobody encouraged her to wear her hat or drink anything all day.
I applied sun cream before she went so at least she had that.

OP posts:
Spies · 12/07/2025 17:22

Funkytuna · 12/07/2025 17:18

Those saying she’s 8 years not 8 months…I think of it like this, what would the response be from school if the same scenario happened under the parents care? If the answer is safeguarding/social services then the school need to be held accountable the same as parents would be. It shouldn’t be one rule for one and one rule for the other when it comes to children’s welfare.

You think it would be a safeguarding/social services issue if a parent reminded their child to drink and wear a hat and they didn't... 🤨

Also it's not actually clear if she didn't wear a hat or drink her water so the whole bloody thing is completely pointless to discuss. The fact the OP hasn't returned suggests she was simply looking for yet another teacher pile on.

Funkytuna · 12/07/2025 17:18

Those saying she’s 8 years not 8 months…I think of it like this, what would the response be from school if the same scenario happened under the parents care? If the answer is safeguarding/social services then the school need to be held accountable the same as parents would be. It shouldn’t be one rule for one and one rule for the other when it comes to children’s welfare.

MyDeftDuck · 12/07/2025 17:17

I does seem a little neglectful of the school to take children out in the heat of yesterday but I imagine the teachers asked ‘have you all got water and do you have a hat’? Standard practice I guess.
However, for some reason your daughter chose NOT to drink her water not to wear her hat, she now feels poorly and is paying the price for not heeding advice from you or her teachers.
Personally, I don’t think it is worth raising a concern with the school as they have more than one child to supervise.
Use this a learning curve for her, explain she is poorly because she ignored sensible advice and thought she knew better. Her symptoms will pass.

BlueMongoose · 12/07/2025 17:13

arethereanyleftatall · 12/07/2025 09:40

She was safe. She just didn’t drink enough water.

this is what I would have done;
I would have explained to my dd that her head hurts because she didn’t drink enough water or wear a hat. If she was interested I might have even explained the science. She would then remember to drink more water and wear a hat in the future.

this is what I wouldn’t have done…
blamed someone else rather than doing a tiny bit of parenting of my own child.

Indeed, that would make it a learning experience for the child. There's also no guarantee that her feeling ill has anything to do with it.

JillMW · 12/07/2025 17:11

Depending on where you live and the type of skin your child has I probably would not have sent them on the trip yesterday. Two of mine have white skin, overheat easily and are at risk of sun stroke. My third probably would have been fine.
All three would have worn a hat had they gone or they may have lied to me that they had worn it as hat wearing was non negotiable.
They would have taken sunscreen and reapplied if at lunch and before coming home. They also would have drunk and refilled at least one water bottle even if it were only to pour over their legs at home time.
All three knew from age 3 that sun and overheating is dangerous. Not a big deal just something they took responsibility for same as getting washed, dressed, toileting and cleaning teeth.
Your daughter sounds a little unusual for an 8 year old. Thus I am guessing she has learning difficulties? That is hard for you. I volunteered for trips when I could. If you can’t do the same it is useful if you seek out the parent volunteer, by nature of those who offer they will offer your child a reminder or some help. The teachers have a heck of a job on trip days and I believe need the support of parents, this includes your own child doing things that are expected.

PurplGirl · 12/07/2025 17:10

I’m really surprised at the responses. 8 is very young. With the excitement of a school trip, a museum where they were possibly told they could only drink in certain areas, likely not stopping to drink whilst walking as thats not something you can do in a walking bus. Plus once dehydration sets in, you don’t feel thirsty - do those posting actually realise that?
I’d be livid OP. Hottest day of the year, they ought to have re-thought a long walk like that, or at least had compulsory sit down water breaks throughout the day.
Have you been able to check with any of the other parents as to whether their kids drank much and how they are today? I would defo speak to the school and share your concerns. People can say what they want about how an 8yo should take responsibility etc. but the fact remains, a child has become unwell with heatstroke after a school trip, so it absolutely needs looking at.

Lavenderflower · 12/07/2025 17:09

Most 8 year old know when to have a drink.

bobster31 · 12/07/2025 17:02

frogshead · 12/07/2025 09:21

Dd (8) went on a school trip yesterday in a heat wave, 40 minutes each way walking to and from a museum.

I sent dd with 2 bottles of water and she didn’t drink either of them and a hat which she didn’t wear.
She arrived home with a headache and has had diarrhoea since.

I know this was partly down to her but she is juts a child and nobody encouraged her to wear her hat or drink anything all day.
I applied sun cream before she went so at least she had that.

How do you know she didn't wear the hat? Did you watch them all the way there and back? I work with 8 year olds, very common for them to not have drinks or wear hats despite us reminding them to. We can't force them. Rather than blaming staff, maybe have a chat with your child about why she needs to do these things and the consequences if she doesn't.

TrustyRusty68 · 12/07/2025 17:02

I wouldn’t be happy - when I have a group of youngsters at a swimming gala or camp etc I ask to see their bottles - it’s not that hard! I make drinking into a game. They’re still young - school should do better!

Bringmeahigherlove · 12/07/2025 16:59

frogshead · 12/07/2025 09:27

I wouldn’t have taken my daughter on a 40 minute each way walk in this heat yesterday so if someone else is going to I expect them to make sure she’s safe.
If I’d been with her I’d have made sure she was.

You could have kept her at home.

TicklishMintDuck · 12/07/2025 16:48

Testingthetimes · 12/07/2025 09:38

if you are taking a group of kids to walk in the blazing sun you need to schedule short stops in shade for water breaks. No, of course, teachers can’t physically watch every child drink but they do have to create the expectation and the space.

peoplE say she is 8, she is old enough to remember to drink water. Adults don’t even always remember when they are distracted.

They remember when they feel thirsty! An 8 year old knows what to do when they feel thirsty and know they have a drink in their bag. If she were 4 years old, obviously that’d be different.

Han86 · 12/07/2025 16:47

Hmm it's difficult to judge whether the trip should have still gone on, our school did cancel sports day this week as it would have been too hot.
However I think your daughter is likely to have chosen not to wear her hat, and unless staff rummaged around her bag they wouldn't know she had one. At lunchtimes I will constantly tell children to get a hat (and in winter a coat) but children say they don't have these things. Unless you have time to go and check everyone (or happen to know they came in wearing one) you cannot call each child out for potentially lying and having an adult check.
The same with drinks. We will tell children to get a drink but cannot physically hold the bottle to their lips and force it down them.
This is a good chance to chat to your daughter about why she needs to wear her hat in the sun and to drink when she is told to.

PandaPeacock · 12/07/2025 16:46

My 8 year old went on a school trip on the hottest day as well. Worse, it was an outside adventure in a field. Of course he’s aware that he had to wear his hat and drink his water (Also sent him in with two bottles) Sounds like your daughter chose not to wear her hat or drink her water. I understand you’re upset but you can’t blame the school for her choices.

Bamboozledbylife · 12/07/2025 16:43

Wow. Perhaps she should have stayed at home where you could have monitored her water intake yourself...

MrsWeasley · 12/07/2025 16:40

Did YOU tell her to wear her hat and drink plenty? I honestly don’t think you can blame the school. Your daughter had water which she chose not to drink - a life lesson learnt.

I know our school reminds children constantly to drink, put on sunscreen and wear a hat however they can’t force a child to do it.

rainbowstardrops · 12/07/2025 16:39

Somethingsnapped · 12/07/2025 15:47

How about you read my post properly.

Oh I read your words.
You suggest bringing it up in a ‘non blamey way’.
Bit like telling the school staff to be aware of something that they are absolutely more than aware of.

JRM17 · 12/07/2025 16:34

Rediculous that you woukd think that this was schools responsibly. She's 8 yrs not 8mth.

moose17 · 12/07/2025 16:32

As someone who volunteered numerous times for school trips your daughter would’ve been reminded constantly throughout the day to drink water and have her hat on. At 8 year old I’m sure you have taught her the importance of Staying hydrated and sun protection if she chooses not to listen not much the school can do.

JudgeJ · 12/07/2025 16:15

Anyahyacinth · 12/07/2025 14:19

In hot countries additional numbers of people die from the heat

When we worked in a Med country schools finished at about 12.30 from the start of June to the end of September or thereabouts. Our usual time for getting to the beach was about 1pm!

Kitkatfiend31 · 12/07/2025 16:10

It wasn't the best day for it but usually you can't rearrange school trips at shirt notice. People would also complain if it was raining! I'm sure the children were told to wear a hat and take water. I assume your daughter left hers behind and didn't tell anyone. If she had told someone I'm sure they would have done their best to get her some water. Maybe that should be the basis of your discussion with her

honeylulu · 12/07/2025 16:05

She had water with her. Why on earth didn't she drink it if she was thirsty? Is there a reason she was unable to?

Somethingsnapped · 12/07/2025 15:47

rainbowstardrops · 12/07/2025 12:34

Oh ffs. You’d bring it up with the school? Where the staff work with children day in and day out and would welcome £1 every time they said, ‘Break time. Drink plenty of water, put your hats on and suncream if you’ve got it’.
They have also probably done the same trip year in and year out and completed risk assessments and know the pitfalls of hot weather!!!
You'd be the parent where the staff say’ ‘Mary’s mum came in reminding us to be mindful to make sure they’re aware they need to remind the children to drink. As if we’re new to this malarkey’.
Really? How about just educate your child so that they know these things any way.

How about you read my post properly.

RoastLambs · 12/07/2025 15:43

Anyahyacinth · 12/07/2025 14:19

In hot countries additional numbers of people die from the heat

Many from a stubbornness or lack of intelligence to put their own hat on their heads or to drink from their water bottle on a 40 minute walk in an urban area.

CandyCane457 · 12/07/2025 15:39

How would you want this to look in practice? Every ten minutes they stop the children and one by one the staff watch each pupil, eagle eyed as they take a sip of their drink? Or is it just your child you wanted them to make sure drank enough?
At 8, she should be entirely responsible for drinking her own drink.

JoeTheDrummer · 12/07/2025 15:33

The only thing I’d be saying to the teacher is ‘thank you for taking the kids on a trip, it must’ve been difficult in the heat’.

8 is old enough to know you need to drink water when it’s hot. She’s not got lasting damage and has hopefully learned a lesson from feeling unwell.