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To think the school were neglectful?

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frogshead · 12/07/2025 09:21

Dd (8) went on a school trip yesterday in a heat wave, 40 minutes each way walking to and from a museum.

I sent dd with 2 bottles of water and she didn’t drink either of them and a hat which she didn’t wear.
She arrived home with a headache and has had diarrhoea since.

I know this was partly down to her but she is juts a child and nobody encouraged her to wear her hat or drink anything all day.
I applied sun cream before she went so at least she had that.

OP posts:
Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 23:21

Jojimoji · 12/07/2025 21:21

We're talking about a walk to a museum.
A little over half an hour.
With abundant access to water.
In the UK.

It's not a four hour trek across the savannah. There is absolutely no need for dramatic language " safety is paramount"
" absolve responsibility" " extreme situations '

With abundant access to water.

They didn't drink it. And, crucially, no one noticed.

In the UK.

What's your point? High temps are high temps, geography is immaterial.

pharmer · 12/07/2025 23:10

Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 20:21

to be talking to your daughter about why she didn't have a drink (too busy talking, looking at things, doing activities maybe?)

Just the same as the adults need talking to about why they didn't notice.

Priceless!
Surely the elephant in the room is this. If she felt thirsty, she would have drunk!!

TheMeasure · 12/07/2025 22:55

@BournetillyPostponing the trip means it would never have happened. There’s only a week or so left of the school year. In September the kids will be on a new class and whatever the objective of the trip was will be gone.
Jesus, the over-reaction in this country to warmer temperatures is insane. The school organised a nice trip out, the weather was good and the venue close enough to walk to, making the visit affordable (something else parents complain about). With suitable clothing and water bottles on hand, all should have been fine.
Trust some Mumsnetters to flip their lids about things. One kid felt mildly unwell afterwards because they hadn’t taken in enough water. I presume they’ve now recovered and will know for next time. Complaining or “having a non-blamey word” (same thing in the eyes of the school staff) will make zero difference to things going forward as there will always be kids who don’t follow instructions.

PithyTaupeWriter · 12/07/2025 22:55

I can’t say I’d have wanted to be out walking in that heat. Having said that, my 5 year old knows to wear her hat, drink water, and reapply sunscreen, so unless your 8 year old has special needs, I think YABU.

HMW19061 · 12/07/2025 22:53

frogshead · 12/07/2025 09:27

I wouldn’t have taken my daughter on a 40 minute each way walk in this heat yesterday so if someone else is going to I expect them to make sure she’s safe.
If I’d been with her I’d have made sure she was.

Presumably you had the option to remove her from the trip yesterday morning if you felt it was too hot
for her?

Livpool · 12/07/2025 22:46

It is up to your daughter to drink. My DS is 9 and needs reminding. But I don’t physically need to hold a drink and force it down

bumblebubble23 · 12/07/2025 22:42

Testingthetimes · 12/07/2025 09:38

if you are taking a group of kids to walk in the blazing sun you need to schedule short stops in shade for water breaks. No, of course, teachers can’t physically watch every child drink but they do have to create the expectation and the space.

peoplE say she is 8, she is old enough to remember to drink water. Adults don’t even always remember when they are distracted.

This

CurlewKate · 12/07/2025 22:29

Does getting hot give you diarrhoea?

Bournetilly · 12/07/2025 22:22

I don’t think they should have got them to walk 40 mins each way, they should have postponed the trip.

Your DD is old enough to know to drink water and wear a hat though.

rainbowstardrops · 12/07/2025 22:16

LyndaLaHughes · 12/07/2025 21:55

And people wonder why teachers are leaving in their droves 🙄

Yep!

I left the education system after 13 years because of a myriad of reasons but partly because of some of the parents and their batshit comments and deferring their poor parenting on to us.

Littlemisscapable · 12/07/2025 22:13

LyndaLaHughes · 12/07/2025 21:55

And people wonder why teachers are leaving in their droves 🙄

This..what a drama about nothing.. she didn't drink the water or wear the hat and now is slightly unwell which may be nothing to do with this "epic" walk. She will be fine..do not bother school with this.

IButtleSir · 12/07/2025 22:00

frogshead · 12/07/2025 09:27

I wouldn’t have taken my daughter on a 40 minute each way walk in this heat yesterday so if someone else is going to I expect them to make sure she’s safe.
If I’d been with her I’d have made sure she was.

I wouldn’t have taken my daughter on a 40 minute each way walk in this heat

But you let her go, which amounts to the same thing. If you didn't think it was safe, you should have kept her at home.

LyndaLaHughes · 12/07/2025 21:55

And people wonder why teachers are leaving in their droves 🙄

rainbowstardrops · 12/07/2025 21:50

TheMeasure · 12/07/2025 21:39

Lots of drama on this thread. People are forgetting that one half of the walk would have taken place probably between 9 and 10 in the morning when the temperatures wouldn’t have been very high at all.

I agree. So much bloody drama.
Especially as @@frogshead hasn’t come back!
Like I said not long ago, light the touch paper and watch it burn ……

Its getting so bloody tedious on here

TheMeasure · 12/07/2025 21:39

Lots of drama on this thread. People are forgetting that one half of the walk would have taken place probably between 9 and 10 in the morning when the temperatures wouldn’t have been very high at all.

MrsWeasley · 12/07/2025 21:39

Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 21:14

Maybe she did. She still wasn't there and so couldn't have been able to make sure that was acted upon. The teachers were, they should have.

And she doesn’t know that the teachers didn’t ask everyone to put on their hats. And she doesn’t know that the teachers didn’t keep reminding children to take drinks when needed.

Drowninginconfusion · 12/07/2025 21:38

Starlight7080 · 12/07/2025 19:41

Really if teachers plus ta plus volunteering parents can't manage to get children to drink some water on a very hot day. When the outcome is heatstroke. Then thats a even bigger worry .

Yes it is a complete worry you’re right. It’s also the truth whether you like it or not.

rainbowstardrops · 12/07/2025 21:38

Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 21:17

As I said, you’ve clearly never worked in a school.

You have no idea what I do. Simply because I would make it a priority to make sure all the kids were drinking, not just ineffectually reminding them?

No I don’t have any idea what you do.
But I’d bloody put money on the fact that you’ve never worked in a school and have been part of a school trip!!!

Jumpthewaves · 12/07/2025 21:36

Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 20:51

Thanks, doctor. Glad you're here.

Once again, not 'forcing it down her' isn't the point.

Well yes it is useful to have someone with medical knowledge comment on symptoms.

stichguru · 12/07/2025 21:31

My child has a half hour walk to school. No I don't keep him at home when it's hot. He's older than your daughter, but really she's 8 old enough to put a hat on and drink when she needs it!

Happyonfriday · 12/07/2025 21:23

Think it’s on your child tbh rather than the school.
5/6yo on the trip I was on recently all knew to drink when they required to (and they did!) and a reminder during lunch of which they were all doing so anyway.
of course, bring it up with them and ask what they did to encourage the children? My guess.. they said it a few times as encouragement but children can’t be forced to do so

Jojimoji · 12/07/2025 21:21

Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 21:13

If they're too busy to make sure basic safety is occuring during a heatwave, then they're not competent.

It's not difficult - safety is paramount. Reminders alone are NOT enough to absolve responsibility if no action is taken to ensure an action is completed. Especially when dealing with children, especially in extreme situations.

We're talking about a walk to a museum.
A little over half an hour.
With abundant access to water.
In the UK.

It's not a four hour trek across the savannah. There is absolutely no need for dramatic language " safety is paramount"
" absolve responsibility" " extreme situations '

Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 21:17

As I said, you’ve clearly never worked in a school.

You have no idea what I do. Simply because I would make it a priority to make sure all the kids were drinking, not just ineffectually reminding them?

Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 21:14

MrsWeasley · 12/07/2025 21:08

I appreciate and understand she wasn’t there but surely she would have spoken to her before the trip as in ‘here’s your hat, I’ve put extra water in your bag - make sure you drink it.’

Maybe she did. She still wasn't there and so couldn't have been able to make sure that was acted upon. The teachers were, they should have.

Hopoitygp · 12/07/2025 21:13

Jojimoji · 12/07/2025 21:05

If you don't understand how teachers have SO much more to do than stare at eight year old children to check that they have followed basic instructions to "drink your water", then you should probably stop commenting.

If they're too busy to make sure basic safety is occuring during a heatwave, then they're not competent.

It's not difficult - safety is paramount. Reminders alone are NOT enough to absolve responsibility if no action is taken to ensure an action is completed. Especially when dealing with children, especially in extreme situations.

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