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This is it - climate change is really beginning to bite

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Wowwee1234 · 11/07/2025 16:29

We know the climate is changing and it is us. This particular heat wave feels like the next step up after a winter of devastating storms.

YABU - It's just too hot
YANBU - This is the taste of things to come.

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MibsXX · 12/07/2025 20:31

Nobody remembers 1976? Surely it is entirely possible that the planet cycles and this is simply that!

Wowwee1234 · 12/07/2025 20:28

TheHateIsNotGood · 12/07/2025 20:21

The climate has always changed over time. And pollution is a worsening problem. Absolutely yes reduce environmental pollution but it's not necessarily true that the climate is changing solely because of pollution.

About 35 years ago the 'tenet of the day' proclaimed that the holes in the ozone layer were caused by people opening their fridges and releasing too many CCFCs into the atmosphere.

That little nugget of 'truth' came from Dupont who were then forefront in producing CFC refridgeration.

The ozone holes over Australia narrowed of their own volition and rather than being burnt to death, people still seem to live there. The ozone layer just opened up some other holes to decant some of the man-made fumes into the cosmos.

The ozone holes / thinning did not narrow of their own voilition ffs. There was an international treaty to ban cfc's and hcfc's which did the trick after about a decade.

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Wowwee1234 · 12/07/2025 20:25

Eveninggin · 12/07/2025 19:59

YABU
I'm guessing you were born after 2000?
Those of us that did the end of the 70s, 80s and 90s this is nothing. We had whole summers like this and it was bliss as a child with a paddling pool out for weeks in the garden.

Nope. In my 40's and whilst we've had summers and storms before, it seems more intense each year. Wildfires, floods, intense heat over and over again. If not here, somewhere in europe.

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TheHateIsNotGood · 12/07/2025 20:21

The climate has always changed over time. And pollution is a worsening problem. Absolutely yes reduce environmental pollution but it's not necessarily true that the climate is changing solely because of pollution.

About 35 years ago the 'tenet of the day' proclaimed that the holes in the ozone layer were caused by people opening their fridges and releasing too many CCFCs into the atmosphere.

That little nugget of 'truth' came from Dupont who were then forefront in producing CFC refridgeration.

The ozone holes over Australia narrowed of their own volition and rather than being burnt to death, people still seem to live there. The ozone layer just opened up some other holes to decant some of the man-made fumes into the cosmos.

Sadworld23 · 12/07/2025 20:05

PrincessHoneysuckle · 11/07/2025 17:05

It's called summer

Didn't we miss it last year, or certainly not for as long?

Eveninggin · 12/07/2025 19:59

YABU
I'm guessing you were born after 2000?
Those of us that did the end of the 70s, 80s and 90s this is nothing. We had whole summers like this and it was bliss as a child with a paddling pool out for weeks in the garden.

Nicho59 · 12/07/2025 19:17

The Earth will eventually sort out the damage we have done to it. The systems work together to regulate it. It's called the Gaia hypothesis.

offtocalifornia · 12/07/2025 19:05

Helen483 · 12/07/2025 19:00

Erm ... we have been growing grapes in this country (England) for well over a millennium. There are records of wine (and beer) making in monasteries all over the country since the 11th or 12th C

But for different reasons!

Helen483 · 12/07/2025 19:00

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 11/07/2025 16:33

The climate has totally changed in terms of what we can grow in our garden, which birds we see when, which fish visit the coast when etc.
We have actual grapes in our garden and typically it would be more of a blackcurrant or raspberry climate.

Erm ... we have been growing grapes in this country (England) for well over a millennium. There are records of wine (and beer) making in monasteries all over the country since the 11th or 12th C

envbeckyc · 12/07/2025 18:56

MigGril · 11/07/2025 17:21

It most likely won't last though. We have a mild climate in the UK due to one major thing. The Gulf stream, as the ice melts and cools the oceans the Gulf stream will shift. The longer rang forecast for the UK will be much colder. We are after all on the same latitude as Moscow, although not land lock so we probably won't get that cold.

Yes the climate does go in cycles and things have been very different in the past but we have forced this change faster then has been seen before (excluding a meter impact). The problem with that is species don't have time to adapt and you cause mass extinction.

Yes I'm fairly sure the planet will survive, but will we. That's another question?

The planet will still be here for a while, but we are living in a self made climate catastrophe where the rate of warming is far quicker than anything experienced in earth’s past!

There is no time for species to adapt, and the melting of the ice caps causing a huge release of fresh water could disrupt the Gulf Stream, making it much colder in the UK.

Elsewhere increased water scarcity and desertification could drive huge wave of migration to Europe, spark wars and conflict.

The human population has never been so large, so with less land suitable for harvests, famines will be more common!

We are seeing climate breakdown happening and yet there are those who falsely believe they and their children will ride it out!

If I had seen the speed of changing climate and predicted the lack of action I might have not had children. I worry about the legacy of climate change and what will happen to them because of the consequences of it!

Buzyizzy217 · 12/07/2025 18:53

Such a shame that only 63% think you are being reasonable. This is like a train coming down the line and 1:3 of the peeps who voted think that’s fine, it’ll miss us. Well it hasn’t, and it’s only going to get a whole lot worse. People need to wake up and stop saying “it’s summer” cos summer was 20-24C, not 32C. 😞

Buzyizzy217 · 12/07/2025 18:50

The average summer temperature for the NW is 20C. Today was 28C. We are in so, so much trouble. Animals, wildlife, the very young, old and vulnerable are all going to suffer. This is not good news at all. 🥲

Buzyizzy217 · 12/07/2025 18:47

It has been changing for decades, but now it’s rapidly accelerating, so I presume more people are noticing it. Such a shame that they aren’t changing their ways tho.
I’ve been banging the climate crisis drum since Covid, when the planet’s CO2 emissions noticeably dropped, but now it’s just one extreme event after another. The last heatwave there were 100’s excess deaths and this will continue. We are solely responsible and watching it being destroyed is heartbreaking and terrifying in equal measures.

Crazyworldmum · 12/07/2025 18:42

It’s called summer ! Stop being dramatic 🙄

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2025 18:34

EasternStandard · 12/07/2025 18:23

I was just reading about irrigation ban for some farmers. I definitely have sympathy for them. It’s as if we don’t want any food production to remain. Taxes etc

It is beyond embarrassing that the Egyptians (and possibly others before them) nailed water management millennia ago.

I write as someone who enjoys the lovely supply of water guaranteed to Birmingham because a bunch of idiots thought we might need it in the future and made it happen. And I do give thanks to the people of Elan for it. And the engineers who ran the aqueduct from there to here/

Leedsfan247 · 12/07/2025 18:31

We haven’t had a summer like this since 1976 yet this is now an annual event

PencilsInSpace · 12/07/2025 18:26

if we don't have farmers we can all go back to hunter gathering

No we can't all do that. Google reckons around 10 million of us could. Of course we'd have to get all the rest of the 8.2bn people out of the way first.

Lincslady53 · 12/07/2025 18:24

I don't know where you live, but in Lancs we have had 2 hot, sunny days, forecast to cool down and rain tomorrow or Monday. I do believe the climate is changing but some of the comments are well over the top. It is summer, we haven't had a hot summer here since 2020, and the only way we could tell it was symmer since then was that the rain was a bit warmer. We are enjoying the warmth before it changes again tomorrow.

EasternStandard · 12/07/2025 18:23

I was just reading about irrigation ban for some farmers. I definitely have sympathy for them. It’s as if we don’t want any food production to remain. Taxes etc

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2025 18:04

dannyufcfan · 12/07/2025 17:44

It's clearly a real issue for some. It's the people who, like clockwork every year, cry when it gets a bit hot that I'm over. Whinges.

I'd have to admit I have limited patience for farmers. People who cut their own feet off and then complain about not being able to find the right shoes tend to have that effect.

However, localised and current snafus aside, if we don't have farmers we can all go back to hunter gathering. Which some could manage, although it would make life (even more) nasty, brutish and short ...

Gbafa · 12/07/2025 18:02

DancefloorAcrobatics · 12/07/2025 17:40

Mars atmosphere has 95% carbon dioxide, the rest is similar to earth. So we really aren't far off creating our own Mars atmosphere.

I think the atmospheric pressure is less

CheekyFish · 12/07/2025 17:58

WaryCrow · 12/07/2025 17:52

And what’s your justification for that claim?

Are you aware of the housing crisis in the U.K., also caused by overpopulation and the greed of those who had money 20 odd years ago?

You’ve just made the same-old justification for your greed and fecklessness that sadly I’ve heard many many times before from landlords and the like.

Very weak.

WaryCrow · 12/07/2025 17:54

anyzee · 12/07/2025 17:23

Follow the money. Who's benefitting from all this fear and global warming "action"? Is there much happening in the African Continent?

Surely someone knows.

Do you mean is climate change coming to Africa? Yes. A quick google would tell you about climate refugees.

WaryCrow · 12/07/2025 17:52

CheekyFish · 12/07/2025 16:05

This has got to be the worst justification for not working and contributing to society I’ve ever heard.

And what’s your justification for that claim?

Are you aware of the housing crisis in the U.K., also caused by overpopulation and the greed of those who had money 20 odd years ago?

You’ve just made the same-old justification for your greed and fecklessness that sadly I’ve heard many many times before from landlords and the like.

dannyufcfan · 12/07/2025 17:44

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2025 17:39

Already some farmers are looking at losing a fucktonne of money.

https://www.farminguk.com/news/over-80-of-farmers-fear-for-future-due-to-extreme-weather_66828.html

It's clearly a real issue for some. It's the people who, like clockwork every year, cry when it gets a bit hot that I'm over. Whinges.