This is it - climate change is really beginning to bite

There were no years in the 1980s and 1990s when the temperature went above 30°C.

On 3 August 1990, London recorded around 37 °C (98.6 °F) at Heathrow, which was at the time one of the UK's highest ever temperatures.

I remember this as there was a discussion on the radio about whether a car could be fined for parking on yellow lines that had been obscured by melted tarmac. (The answer was yes, by the way).

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/17/weatherwatch-august-1990-record-hot-teperature

1976 was the only year in the 1960s and 1970s when the temperature went above 30°C. There were no years in the 1980s and 1990s when the temperature went above 30°C. There were 5 years this century when the temperature went above 30°C. They were 2005, 2017, 2020, 2022 and 2025. In 2022 the temperature went above 40°C for the first time ever.

Other countries have air conditioning In the UK we have yoghurt on the outside of windows Would love for this academic to show me how someone who lives in a tower block is supposed to do this.
Absolute fucking stupidity.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4rg3nqq7go?app-referrer=deep-link

I don't think we should stop flying. We should just decarbonise aviation.

My DM is 89 and says the same. Her legs have swelled up due to the heat. They will soon moan like fuck when she is sat in front of them in A&E

Not really sure that can be used as a way forward though.

Irrelevant. Average temperatures being higher is the problem, not a comparison of one off days

Remember when that Icelandic volcano erupted back in 2010? The flights grounded as a result saved about as much as it emitted.

I lived through 1976 and can confirm it was very much a one-off.

I was out with friends yesterday and one was chatting with her son. She said that the 30 years before his birth were completely different weather wise to the 30 since.

Any idiot can point to a dot and say "see" - indeed it's clear many are. What they need to do (or ask a friend if it involves scissors) is take 1970-1980 (for example) and overlay it onto 1980-1990, then 1990-2000, then 2000-2010 and then 2010-2020. Apart from keeping them busy and from butting into serious discussions, it would show an upward trend every decade. If UK productivity had followed the same trajectory, we'd all be millionaires by now.

Did it hit 40°C?

No. It did in 2022.

I wish that the Boomers on this thread would stop banging on about 1976. It was notable because it was unusual for its time. Extreme weather is becoming much more frequent, last month was the hottest June in England since records began.

All of the human races (piss poor) attempts at net zero could (and probably will) be wiped out in a few hours when the next big volcano decides it's bored.

Once again, this isn't a reason for doing nothing. Merely a suggestion that we do something productive instead.

This is so ill-informed that I don't even know where to begin.

It does genuinely look like we're cooked, whatever sane countries do.

However doing our best to mitigate it is worth doing anyway. You can live a happier life without polluting the world, though you'll have fewer shiny baubles as a result.

Car use doesn‘t just put CO2 into the atmosphere, it damages our lungs, reduces the quality of our sleep, generates stress, impedes social connections and brutally kills our children.

Overconsumption is harming both us and the developing world. Cotton and fruit pickers working in fields where glyphosate is used end up with many health issues, microplastics are getting into the food chain, people die in dangerous factories etc.

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yes well at least there are hundreds and thousands of normal everyday people who are doing their best (at their own expense) to make a difference. Even a small difference can snowball into a bigger difference.

For example, me and my husband and really enjoys plants and we started growing a bit of food a few years ago, this has spurred a couple of our friends to give it a go. Even just one or 2 apple trees in a mates back garden counts

Going to the charity shops and shopping second hand online is the norm now in my friendship group when a few years ago they all thought I was an embarrassing hippy for going second hand! it's changing out there. I really think it is

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yes well at least there are hundreds and thousands of normal everyday people who are doing their best (at their own expense) to make a difference. Even a small difference can snowball into a bigger difference.

For example, me and my husband and really enjoys plants and we started growing a bit of food a few years ago, this has spurred a couple of our friends to give it a go. Even just one or 2 apple trees in a mates back garden counts

Going to the charity shops and shopping second hand online is the norm now in my friendship group when a few years ago they all thought I was an embarrassing hippy for going second hand! it's changing out there. I really think it is

It's a shame some rabbit holes lead to dead children though.

Well of course people will be worried about the impact of climate change on people.
Just as Whales worry about the impact on whales (they might not know its climate change but the old ones would remember a different world)

My husband shift patterns and saod the other day that he hardly sees hedgehogs anymore. over the past few years a huge portion of our neighbours have opted for plastic grass, slabs and taken out the hedges (it's a lot of effort to mow the lawn and trim the hedges I agree but it's impacting things)

We have a small wildlife pond in the garden. Frogs every year. this year nothing.

Its scary! I'm scared.

Its not so much climate change but the fact people keep using anecdotal evidence and blaming everyone but themselves. It causes arguments.

It was warmer in the UK 2,000 years ago. Then wetter then much colder. Clearly it's warmed up a lot since Victorian times even.
So climate change happens with and without human activity. Human activity absolutely has an impact but as I said previously no one wants to go backwards. We like our food from many miles away available all year round. We like using water for washing things even if they aren't dirty. We like stuff. And children.

I agree. Turtles sighted off the Jurassic coast. The ocean is warming quicker than we thought

Are you saying that some opinions are wrong, therefore they are down rabbit holes?

And you are right, therefore NOT down a rabbit hole?

What if the rabbit holers are right and you are wrong?
Are you down a rabbit hole then?

Thought not......

Just read the latest posts on this thread and the anti vaxxer thread. My God some people are just so dragged down deep in those rabbit holes

no it was more than that
United Kingdom
In late June 2024, the United Kingdom was affected by a heatwave, with most of the country seeing temperatures reaching 26 °C (79 °F).[70]
In mid-July and late-July 2024, heatwaves affected the United Kingdom, and again in August.
On 12 August, a temperature of 34.8 °C (94.6 °F) was recorded in Cambridge, exceeding the previously recorded temperature of 32.0 °C (89.6 °F) on 30 July at Kew Gardens & Heathrow Airport.[71]

i remember my HO and her assistant visiting us last August. they were in our flat for over an hour and couldnt wait to leave but i admit i did want to keep them here as long as possible so they could "feel the benefit" of what we have to put up with

It's not possible for the amount of CO2 emitted by humans to leave the global climate unchanged. This is very basic physics. Natural variations are an entirely different matter.

Heres my back garden since 1st Jan.

Scientists have never had so much raw data of such quality available.

(fans of energy efficiency would obviously have a matching series of graphs showing inside temperature with an extra dimension of power consumed ....)

Yes - we remember that because it was an outlier.