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This is it - climate change is really beginning to bite

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Wowwee1234 · 11/07/2025 16:29

We know the climate is changing and it is us. This particular heat wave feels like the next step up after a winter of devastating storms.

YABU - It's just too hot
YANBU - This is the taste of things to come.

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EasternStandard · 13/07/2025 21:25

BardoState · 13/07/2025 21:07

I think you’ll find that depopulation is a major issue, especially in the west.

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It’s not going to be easy but it needs to go down naturally.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 21:16

SquallyShowersLater · 13/07/2025 20:11

I take it you weren't around in the summer of 76 then.

I was.

BardoState · 13/07/2025 21:07

Firefly1987 · 13/07/2025 18:18

Isn't having kids the very worst thing for the environment? Yet tell people you're not having kids for that reason and people think you're crazy!

The very fact people are worrying about their grandchildren's children points to them thinking they actually have the luxury to have as many kids as they want. Well maybe they do, but I'm not sure if the planet has that luxury...we just need fewer people that's the bottom line.

I think you’ll find that depopulation is a major issue, especially in the west.

Gbafa · 13/07/2025 20:35

DdraigGoch · 13/07/2025 20:05

I always find the word "just" to be such a tell. It's "just" so simple, right?

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I want to see more of the world. I need to fly. Especially to see my family abroad.

bookworm14 · 13/07/2025 20:27

Bloody hell, it’s like talking to the wall.

SquallyShowersLater · 13/07/2025 20:11

I take it you weren't around in the summer of 76 then.

DdraigGoch · 13/07/2025 20:05

Gbafa · 13/07/2025 15:30

I don't think we should stop flying. We should just decarbonise aviation.

I always find the word "just" to be such a tell. It's "just" so simple, right?

DdraigGoch · 13/07/2025 20:04

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 15:21

Not really sure that can be used as a way forward though.

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We could start by charging fuel duty on kerosene. That would reduce the number of flights by a fair bit.

Lisanne55 · 13/07/2025 19:17

It is definitely the case though that there are more and hotter days in the 21st century and we are only one quarter of the way through it.😬

Lisanne55 · 13/07/2025 19:15

The 10th hottest day is 36.5 degrees in 2006. There are plenty of other days over 30.

Lisanne55 · 13/07/2025 19:14

JennyShaw · 13/07/2025 18:18

That's interesting. Not 1911 then. According to a page on Wikipedia in 1911 the temperature got up to 36.7°C in Raunds, Northamptonshire. Just goes to show we need to have a definitive source of our information.

On this page is a chart of the 10 hottest days in the UK. 1990 is in there along with 1911. All the other days are in this century. 1976 doesn't even get a mention.
United Kingdom weather records - Wikipedia

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Those are years with consecutive days over 30 degrees. I just put "more than one" to keep it simple. I've seen 1911 on lists of the 10 hottest days. I think there were temperatures above 30 a couple of times in the 50s as well but would have to check. It is quite difficult to find out for sure.

Petitchat · 13/07/2025 19:01

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 13:51

It's a shame some rabbit holes lead to dead children though.

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And some rabbit holes lead to permanently damaged children.

Which is the worst rabbit hole?

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 18:20

Isn't having kids the very worst thing for the environment? Yet tell people you're not having kids for that reason and people think you're crazy!

We are waaaaaaayy past that now. All we can do is weather the storm (so to speak). The time to build shelter was 50, 60 years ago.

Firefly1987 · 13/07/2025 18:18

Isn't having kids the very worst thing for the environment? Yet tell people you're not having kids for that reason and people think you're crazy!

The very fact people are worrying about their grandchildren's children points to them thinking they actually have the luxury to have as many kids as they want. Well maybe they do, but I'm not sure if the planet has that luxury...we just need fewer people that's the bottom line.

JennyShaw · 13/07/2025 18:18

Lisanne55 · 13/07/2025 17:54

Not true. There were temperatures over 30 degrees recorded more than once in:

1906, 1947, 1975, 1976, 1983. 1990, 1995 and 1997

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That's interesting. Not 1911 then. According to a page on Wikipedia in 1911 the temperature got up to 36.7°C in Raunds, Northamptonshire. Just goes to show we need to have a definitive source of our information.

On this page is a chart of the 10 hottest days in the UK. 1990 is in there along with 1911. All the other days are in this century. 1976 doesn't even get a mention.
United Kingdom weather records - Wikipedia

United Kingdom weather records - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_weather_records#Top_10_hottest_days_in_the_UK

envbeckyc · 13/07/2025 18:17

Eveninggin · 12/07/2025 19:59

YABU
I'm guessing you were born after 2000?
Those of us that did the end of the 70s, 80s and 90s this is nothing. We had whole summers like this and it was bliss as a child with a paddling pool out for weeks in the garden.

We definitely didn’t have summers like this in the 80s and 90s.

The record for the hottest ever recorded temperature in the UK was a couple of years ago, where my local Met office weather station recorded over 40c which was surprisingly not the hottest temperature in the country!

the hottest 10 years on record have all occurred in the last 20 years.

www.metoffice.gov.uk/blog/2025/met-office-july-weather-records

tripleginandtonic · 13/07/2025 18:12

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 11/07/2025 17:33

Jesus, can we have five days of summer without the existential dread?

This. It's set to cool down again next week.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 18:12

FourEyesGood · 13/07/2025 18:10

Patronising.

We shouldn’t have to bring our own electrical equipment into school in order to be able to work at a comfortable temperature.

Even if I was willing to take my home fan into school, I’d be very selfish to do so, as my husband works from home and needs it here.

And aside from those arguments, my own personal fan wouldn’t have been PAT tested and would therefore be forbidden.

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I am sure there are some employers who would charge employees for using their own electrical devices at work. If only for the fact that otherwise some cheeky fucker will be charging their EV on it.

FourEyesGood · 13/07/2025 18:10

Kerensa70 · 13/07/2025 09:33

I brought in my own fan to class, not rocket science

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Patronising.

We shouldn’t have to bring our own electrical equipment into school in order to be able to work at a comfortable temperature.

Even if I was willing to take my home fan into school, I’d be very selfish to do so, as my husband works from home and needs it here.

And aside from those arguments, my own personal fan wouldn’t have been PAT tested and would therefore be forbidden.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 18:00

Lisanne55 · 13/07/2025 17:54

Not true. There were temperatures over 30 degrees recorded more than once in:

1906, 1947, 1975, 1976, 1983. 1990, 1995 and 1997

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It's amusing how all the "we lived through '76" voices forget those. Maybe it's age thing. Although I remember 76 and am not yet looking for my marbles.

florizel13 · 13/07/2025 17:55

munchingmunch · 11/07/2025 18:01

If it's warm in summer....oh, it's climate changeIf it cold and rainy all summer, oh it's climate change.

It's the extremes, it's not unusual to be warm in summer but it is unusual to have 30 degrees in June.

This is it, exactly. Although my mum did used to call June "flaming June" when I was a kid so I guess there was a time it was hot...I just remember it being rainy!

Lisanne55 · 13/07/2025 17:54

JennyShaw · 13/07/2025 17:23

1976 was the only year in the 1960s and 1970s when the temperature went above 30°C. There were no years in the 1980s and 1990s when the temperature went above 30°C. There were 5 years this century when the temperature went above 30°C. They were 2005, 2017, 2020, 2022 and 2025. In 2022 the temperature went above 40°C for the first time ever.

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Not true. There were temperatures over 30 degrees recorded more than once in:

1906, 1947, 1975, 1976, 1983. 1990, 1995 and 1997

JennyShaw · 13/07/2025 17:49

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 17:35

There were no years in the 1980s and 1990s when the temperature went above 30°C.

On 3 August 1990, London recorded around 37 °C (98.6 °F) at Heathrow, which was at the time one of the UK's highest ever temperatures.

I remember this as there was a discussion on the radio about whether a car could be fined for parking on yellow lines that had been obscured by melted tarmac. (The answer was yes, by the way).

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/17/weatherwatch-august-1990-record-hot-teperature

Yes, you're quite right. I stand corrected. bookworm17 has also said 1990 was an exceptionally hot year. Different sources seem to be saying different things but all of them are saying we have had many more years of above 30°C this century than in the last. This is what Microsoft Copilot says

Notable Years with 30°C+ Temperatures

  • 1976: One of the most infamous heatwaves, with nine consecutive June days above 30°C.
  • 1990: Multiple days over 30°C, including a peak of 37.1°C in Cheltenham.
  • 2003: A European-wide heatwave pushed UK temperatures to 38.5°C in Kent.
  • 2018: A prolonged hot summer with several days above 30°C across England.
  • 2019: Cambridge hit 38.7°C — a new record at the time.
  • 2022: The UK shattered its all-time record with 40.3°C in Coningsby, Lincolnshire.
  • 2023: Heathrow recorded 30.5°C in June, marking the first 30°C+ day since 2022.
  • 2024: Brief but intense heat spell in late June saw multiple stations exceed 30°C.
  • 2025: As of July, several regions have already hit 30°C+, with Cardiff reaching 33.1°C
This seems to confirm that 1990 was hot as well as 1976. It's even worse though than what I wrote before.
Flozle · 13/07/2025 17:42

PrincessHoneysuckle · 11/07/2025 17:05

It's called summer

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