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This is it - climate change is really beginning to bite

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Wowwee1234 · 11/07/2025 16:29

We know the climate is changing and it is us. This particular heat wave feels like the next step up after a winter of devastating storms.

YABU - It's just too hot
YANBU - This is the taste of things to come.

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SouthernNights59 · 14/07/2025 08:29

DdraigGoch · 14/07/2025 07:27

Lucky you, your houses are probably designed for the heat. Whether that means passive measures, or just installing air con everywhere amd making the problem worse in the long run.

Our houses are not designed for the heat, or for the cold. We don't all have air con, although businesses do, but that is a reasonably new thing - we managed to cope just fine beforehand. I've only had air con for the past three years, and really I only use it on the cooling setting for a few days each year, the rest of the time it is on the fan setting - and the rest of the house is boiling as the air con is only in the living room (as is the heating).

So, we roast in summer and freeze in winter - meantime Brits seem to think they should be living in a perfect temperature the whole year round.

DdraigGoch · 14/07/2025 07:35

From the Times:

The frequency of heatwaves in Spain has nearly tripled since the turn of the century.

Portugal has also suffered. Mora in the Alentejo region recorded 46.6°C on Sunday, reported to be a national record for June.

Temperatures were forecast to rise as high as 40C in parts of Germany on Wednesday, threatening to set new records.

Yeah, this isn't "just summer"

DdraigGoch · 14/07/2025 07:27

SouthernNights59 · 14/07/2025 03:51

Some of us actually live in other parts of the world, and I can assure you we are not all dying like flies because we have a few days with the temps over 30C every summer (and, shock, horror, the ocassional 40C).

And once again, sorry I'm going to have to shout this - THERE IS MORE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD THAN JUST EUROPE.

Lucky you, your houses are probably designed for the heat. Whether that means passive measures, or just installing air con everywhere amd making the problem worse in the long run.

bookworm14 · 14/07/2025 07:25

People are ridiculous 😂 where my dad is from it used to get over 50c quite regularly, they use to fry eggs on the road!

How is this relevant? No one is saying the UK is the hottest place on earth; we’re saying it’s demonstrably getting warmer relative to previous decades.

pushthebuttonnn · 14/07/2025 07:22

Next year will probably be a washout again so just enjoy it while it lasts fgs!

MumWifeOther · 14/07/2025 07:17

SouthernNights59 · 14/07/2025 03:51

Some of us actually live in other parts of the world, and I can assure you we are not all dying like flies because we have a few days with the temps over 30C every summer (and, shock, horror, the ocassional 40C).

And once again, sorry I'm going to have to shout this - THERE IS MORE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD THAN JUST EUROPE.

People are ridiculous 😂 where my dad is from it used to get over 50c quite regularly, they use to fry eggs on the road!

MumWifeOther · 14/07/2025 07:15

munchingmunch · 11/07/2025 20:45

The summers is the 1980s were, for the most part, cool and wet.

Yep, mine in London were and data backs that up. @MumWifeOther must have lived in a micro climate!

Maybe I just had a happy childhood and look back remembering happy sunny days 🤷🏽‍♀️

Anyway, the climate has always changed. We should respect Mother Nature of course, but NO ONE is going to stop climate change if that’s what nature wants. Delusional to
think otherwise.

SouthernNights59 · 14/07/2025 03:51

Nasrine · 13/07/2025 21:26

No they don't.

They die.

The heatwave in between 23/6/25 and 2/7/25 is estimated to have caused approximately 2,300 excess deaths across 12 European cities.

Some of us actually live in other parts of the world, and I can assure you we are not all dying like flies because we have a few days with the temps over 30C every summer (and, shock, horror, the ocassional 40C).

And once again, sorry I'm going to have to shout this - THERE IS MORE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD THAN JUST EUROPE.

sleepwouldbenice · 14/07/2025 00:09

@Petitchat it just doesn’t matter how much collective opinion, scientific evidence etc there is. You are just swamped with misinformation

yes I would question if I were the one down the rabbit hole if I faced that level of evidence. But you won’t, will you.?

sleepwouldbenice · 14/07/2025 00:09

@Petitchat it just doesn’t matter how much collective opinion, scientific evidence etc there is. You are just swamped with misinformation

yes I would question if I were the one down the rabbit hole if I faced that level of evidence. But you won’t, will you.?

BoredOfCbeebies · 13/07/2025 23:23

Finteq · 11/07/2025 21:27

It was 27c in the northwest today. And will be 28 tomorrow.

That is normal summer temps

No @Finteq it's not normal. This info is from Ed Hawkins, a professor of climate science and meteorology at the university of Reading.

Also, for all of those using 1976 to say we regularly get hot summers, google Hawkins' "show your stripes" website which shows how much average temperatures have increased year on year. 1976 was an outlier.

This is it - climate change is really beginning to bite
DdraigGoch · 13/07/2025 22:50

Gbafa · 13/07/2025 22:27

Sustainable Aviation Fuel and Electrification.

Those are going to be for very limited applications so you won't see the current levels of mass travel by air.

PencilsInSpace · 13/07/2025 22:32

SquallyShowersLater · 13/07/2025 20:11

I take it you weren't around in the summer of 76 then.

CANCEL THE CHEQUE!!!

Gbafa · 13/07/2025 22:27

DdraigGoch · 13/07/2025 21:51

How are you going to decarbonise aviation then?

I want to see more of the world too. But I want to see it responsibly. Therefore flying becomes a last resort, something done rarely. For many journeys there are good alternatives available.

Sustainable Aviation Fuel and Electrification.

Firefly1987 · 13/07/2025 22:19

BardoState · 13/07/2025 21:07

I think you’ll find that depopulation is a major issue, especially in the west.

Not in terms of global warming. The planet will never suffer from having too few humans.

envbeckyc · 13/07/2025 22:04

Lisanne55 · 13/07/2025 19:14

Those are years with consecutive days over 30 degrees. I just put "more than one" to keep it simple. I've seen 1911 on lists of the 10 hottest days. I think there were temperatures above 30 a couple of times in the 50s as well but would have to check. It is quite difficult to find out for sure.

The only time a 40c temperature has been recorded in the UK was July 2022.

The widespread nature of the heat meant that the average maximum temperature across the whole of the UK exceeded 30°C for the first time and the UK had its two hottest days on record by this measurement in a series that goes back to 1960. The new highest average maximum temperature set on 19 July 2022 was 2°C higher than the previous value of 29.5°C set on 25 July 2019.

www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/news-and-media/media-centre/weather-and-climate-news/2022/july-heat-review#:~:text=Author:%20Press%20Office,temperature%20of%2025.8%C2%B0C.

DdraigGoch · 13/07/2025 21:57

SquallyShowersLater · 13/07/2025 20:11

I take it you weren't around in the summer of 76 then.

The year which was cooler than 2022?

Labouraretwats · 13/07/2025 21:52

Err, no. It's called summer.Hmm

DdraigGoch · 13/07/2025 21:51

Gbafa · 13/07/2025 20:35

I want to see more of the world. I need to fly. Especially to see my family abroad.

How are you going to decarbonise aviation then?

I want to see more of the world too. But I want to see it responsibly. Therefore flying becomes a last resort, something done rarely. For many journeys there are good alternatives available.

EasternStandard · 13/07/2025 21:38

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 21:34

If your economy is predicated on the mass of people paying to make a few rich, and you make the mass of people poorer, then you need more people in the mass to maintain the flow up to the rich.

That is what is driving population growth.

It was but it seems even the voters are saying enough to that.

We’ll feel it economically but better than just more and more people and increased volatility and fighting over resources.

We won’t need the same with tech replacing people anyway, whether anyone can work out how to get the taxes from it is another issue.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 21:34

EasternStandard · 13/07/2025 21:30

They are. But if we keep saying population has to go up we’ll get that and more volatility on top.

People seem more worried about depopulation, I think it’s the chance to get through next however many decades.

If your economy is predicated on the mass of people paying to make a few rich, and you make the mass of people poorer, then you need more people in the mass to maintain the flow up to the rich.

That is what is driving population growth.

EasternStandard · 13/07/2025 21:30

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 21:27

Floods, famine, disease and heatwaves are all natural though ?

They are. But if we keep saying population has to go up we’ll get that and more volatility on top.

People seem more worried about depopulation, I think it’s the chance to get through next however many decades.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 21:27

EasternStandard · 13/07/2025 21:25

It’s not going to be easy but it needs to go down naturally.

Floods, famine, disease and heatwaves are all natural though ?

Nasrine · 13/07/2025 21:26

SouthernNights59 · 12/07/2025 04:43

Those people seem to cope in other parts of the world. Why does the UK think it is so "special" and everything affects them more than anyone else? If your summers are getting warmer then it's about time you thought about what can be done to deal with that, but no, Brits just like to whinge (nothing new there) while sitting back doing nothing.

No they don't.

They die.

The heatwave in between 23/6/25 and 2/7/25 is estimated to have caused approximately 2,300 excess deaths across 12 European cities.