This is it - climate change is really beginning to bite

There’s some massive fires near Marseille apparently, people told to shelter in place, etc.

I know, fancy having a lovely hot summer day in July, never heard of before!

The Romans introduced grape growing in England after the Roman Conquest of 43 AD, and planted them as far North as Hadrian’s Wall, so this isn’t a new thing. And apparently Britons grew grapes in the 11th century during the Medieval Warming, but then it became too cold to grow them during the mini ice age of 1645 to 1715 (when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that ice fairs were held on it).

It really is hot this year isn’t it. I saw the other day it’s almost as bad as the summer of ‘76…

This June was warmer though....

It was like this summer of 2022 so I don’t think anyone can say that this summer (which we’re not even half way through yet) proves that climate change is having a big impact? I know the planet is fucked but there’s nothing different about this summer so I think there’s a bit of hysteria going on.

I remember in the 80's at primary (East Midlands so would have been June - we always broke up before July) a few occasions where we were told we should stay in the shade and take it easy at lunch as the temperature was or was going to be, 'in the 90s'. But then, me and my mum also both remember there being a lot more snow in the Winters in the East Midlands decades ago.
I think a big problem no one talks about is the issue of all the concrete, brick and tarmac trapping heat- this is only going to get worse if we go on mad building sprees. According to the BBC heatmap, I live in a really hot little corner of a hot estate. When I drive a couple of miles to pick my DD up from her school, that area is a tree-lined road full of mostly older (one or two are late medieval) large detached houses and massive gardens and it's close to a large area of ancient woodland. On a day like today, standing outside the school is actually pleasant - not so if we go in our tiny garden - it feels like an oven! My estate was started in the late 70s and was progressively added to till the mid 90s - and these days a lot of people extend their properties into their already small gardens. An adjacent estate was mostly built in the 60s. Before that it was all farmland and a bit of woodland here 😬

The heatwave in 76 was an isolated event in an overall much cooler decade, and affected a much smaller geographical area than the heatwaves we're currently seeing.

There you go...there are still many morons in the comments!

It's bloody lovely if you don't have cancer/hypertension/are elderly/are frail/are pregnant/are a manual worker/are on a high dose of antidepressants or antipsychotics.

The heatwave over just 3 days June was linked to about 570 excess deaths.

Quite!

It's triggered an autonomic dysfunction for me - I cannot imagine much further from lovely than this... I am cycling through pouring sweat but feeling cold - shivering so hard its hurting - zombie falling asleep at every turn - digestion system basically non functional - blood sugar through the roof almost all the time despite normally good BG control... massive build up of lymphatic fluid in all sorts of disgusting places. And no, I haven't got flu!

Yes, so bloody lovely indeed and through it all I have to either sit on an inflatable pressure sore cushion on my sofa or on a similarly sweaty ass inducing one on my wheelchair (lying down in a cool room doesn't exist, there is no cool room).

I am getting air con. Yes, I realise that probably contributes to the problem, but id rather that than heat shortening my life span which it probably will.

It really is hot this year isn’t it. I saw the other day it’s almost as bad as the summer of ‘76…

We went to the beach after work/school today hoping for a cold swim and the sea was warm. I've lived here forever and couldn't believe how warm it was.

I dunno, last summer was absolutely shite. It was cold and we had one week of decent weather.

The summers is the 1980s were, for the most part, cool and wet.

Yep, mine in London were and data backs that up. @MumWifeOther must have lived in a micro climate!

@MumWifeOther I remember crème eggs that were massive...

South of England. I remember very hot summers?

Perhaps you should google?

It's particularly hot being heavily pregnant and then in labour in a heat wave, it was nearly 40c where I lived with DC, felt a bit scary tbh.

My part of the north has only been particularly sunny today. Are you referring to the south?

The summers is the 1980s were, for the most part, cool and wet.

The children will be on their summer holidays in a week or so - it usually changes then after they’ve boiled in school for weeks!

More seriously - I’m enjoying the sunshine but I am also aware that we didn’t have our usual spring rain this year. I’m just hoping we don’t have all the flooding again when the weather does break.

South of England. I remember very hot summers?

"I just know there will be countless morons saying 'its called summer"

Well go on Twitter and you'll find exciting 'proof' from the really intelligent people that this is caused by chemtrails and 'they' are doing this so they can stay safe in their bunkers until every one of us is dead. Which at this rate is going to be before Xmas so at least we can save some money and the tricky present buying.

Nibiru is not helping. Having a whole planet hovering just above the clouds (it hides behind them) is bound to have some effect.

The Pole Shift is due and that's going to tip the world over so California is at the North pole and freezing. I guess California was picked because it figures in many disaster movies.

CERN is of course behind a lot of it. Making it worse by opening portals to hell and to other planets and dimensions.

The good news is that the US can choose who gets the hurricanes using HAARP so we'll be ok providing we are nice to President Trump.

And of course Jesus will be here soon to make it all better so no need to worry at all. We're in good hands.

Gb news say it too, so it must be right,
Shirley

Where are people saying that it's not a problem? Just that climate change is no more of a problem today - for most people- in this nice weather than on other typical days when the weather is unremarkable.

Utter nonsense. I'm old enough to remember the summer of '76.

Do you have amnesia re the rest of the decade or the following one?

I’m old enough to remember the summer of 76 too, and intelligent enough to know you’re talking self absorbed, selfish rubbish.

Look at the science data re temperatures and take off your rose tinted spectacles.