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AIBU to wonder my manager lied about her daughter’s school?

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temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 11:28

Not sure if I’m overthinking this or if something odd is going on.

A while ago, my manager and I were chatting about our kids. She was asking about SATs for her 8-year-old DD. I explained what I knew and also mentioned the 11+ since my DS (14) is at a grammar school and went through the process.
She said her daughter isn’t really into study so there is no point getting a tutor. She made it sound like school isn’t really her thing.

Then just the other day, I overheard her telling someone else at work that her daughter is at a private grammar school. That really threw me, especially after our earlier conversation. I did not say anything, but I felt a bit taken aback.

I get that people do not always share everything, and maybe she didn’t want to go into it before, but it felt like a lie especially after she asked me for info and gave the impression her daughter wouldn’t be doing anything like the 11+. Why say all that if her daughter is already at a private grammar?

AIBU to feel confused and like she was being a bit dishonest?

OP posts:
Sundaybananas · 11/07/2025 16:15

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 15:59

I am not lying, and I do remember what she said. I might have worded it slightly differently in different replies, but the overall message has stayed the same. She said her daughter is not academic, not into studying, and there is no point getting a tutor.

Whether I said she made it sound that way or said it directly, the point is the same. She gave a very clear impression that her daughter was not on any kind of academic or selective path. So when I later heard her saying her daughter is at a private grammar school and doing really well, it did not match up. That is what stood out, not a few wording changes in my posts.

I think you and she just have different outlooks/different priorities. It is entirely possible for a child to be not academic, not interested in studying and not benefit from a tutor, and yet still be doing really well at a private school that has entry requirements. Those things are not at all mutually exclusive.

Ineedmorewine03 · 11/07/2025 16:09

I think you are interpreting wrongly

excelling doesn’t mean being academic or interested in studying

my daughter is not academic but she is excelling in her current school in terms of her own advances.

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 16:09

Bellyblueboy · 11/07/2025 15:53

Oh dear. She told a slightly different version of her life to you when she wanted advice than to others when she was making small talk.

You have now written her off as dishonest.

does this black and white thinking and obsessive ruminating impact on any other aspects of your life? I don’t know anyone who would give this a second thought. Well that’s wrong - I do. A neighbor who is extremely competitive when it comes to children and school and results and adults and salary levels. If this happened to her she might actually call the police😂🫣😂

She did not just tell a slightly different version. She asked me for advice, said her daughter was not academic, was in an ordinary school, and would not be doing the 11+. Then I heard her telling someone else that her daughter is at a private grammar school and excelling. That is not just a shift in tone or a different way of saying things. That is two completely different stories.

And no, this does not affect other areas of my life. I just noticed something that did not sit right, and I asked for perspective. That is the whole point of MN.

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temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 15:59

CloudPop · 11/07/2025 15:58

There’s no such thing as a “private grammar” so I suspect we are in a “recollections may vary” scenario

That was the wording the manager used.

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temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 15:59

JLou08 · 11/07/2025 15:57

You've changed your wording throughout this post. It starts of that he daughter isn't in to study so there's no point in getting a tutor, then she made it sound like she weren't academic, then she actually said she wasn't academic.
Either you are now lying because you are on the defensive or you don't actually remember what she said.

I am not lying, and I do remember what she said. I might have worded it slightly differently in different replies, but the overall message has stayed the same. She said her daughter is not academic, not into studying, and there is no point getting a tutor.

Whether I said she made it sound that way or said it directly, the point is the same. She gave a very clear impression that her daughter was not on any kind of academic or selective path. So when I later heard her saying her daughter is at a private grammar school and doing really well, it did not match up. That is what stood out, not a few wording changes in my posts.

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CloudPop · 11/07/2025 15:58

There’s no such thing as a “private grammar” so I suspect we are in a “recollections may vary” scenario

JLou08 · 11/07/2025 15:57

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 15:53

I have not misunderstood. I know the exact school she later named and it does have an assessment for entry even at Year 3. It is a selective private grammar with entrance assessments for younger years and not just at Year 7. It is also one of the schools in the area that had already broken up which matched up with what I noticed about her daughter's term dates.

She did not just ask about how the state system works. She specifically said her daughter is not academic, does not enjoy studying and there is no point in getting a tutor. She also said her daughter is just in an ordinary school and will not be sitting the 11+. That was not vague or open to interpretation. That was a clear statement.

So no, I do not think I got the wrong end of the stick. She gave me a completely different version of things than she gave to someone else later.

You've changed your wording throughout this post. It starts of that he daughter isn't in to study so there's no point in getting a tutor, then she made it sound like she weren't academic, then she actually said she wasn't academic.
Either you are now lying because you are on the defensive or you don't actually remember what she said.

itsgettingweird · 11/07/2025 15:55

There’s a private grammar in my nearby city called “city name grammar school”.

It takes pupils from nursery age.

It has its own entrance exams and criteria and is selective at secondary .

So both things she said could equally be true.

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 15:53

AreYouAGod · 11/07/2025 14:45

We have lots of independent schools locally, that have an exam that y7 need to pass to get a place. So they are technically ‘selective’ but not until y7.
I have never heard of a school that has an exam for children who are in y3 or younger.
Independent schools at prep are not selective and are much cheaper than at secondary.

This is what you don’t seem to understand.

Her daughter could currently be at a great private prep school with ‘grammar’ in the title that is selective at y7. But is also not academic and would not have a chance at the 11plus. And they wouldn’t invest in a tutor.

As private schools don’t always do SATs she may genuinely been interested and many don’t bother with the 11plus as they can afford school fees. She may genuinely have been interested in how the ‘state’ system works.

You have made assumptions. She asked direct questions. You should have asked more questions rather than just assumed.

The most obvious answer here is that you got the wrong end of the stick and seem to have blaming her!

I have not misunderstood. I know the exact school she later named and it does have an assessment for entry even at Year 3. It is a selective private grammar with entrance assessments for younger years and not just at Year 7. It is also one of the schools in the area that had already broken up which matched up with what I noticed about her daughter's term dates.

She did not just ask about how the state system works. She specifically said her daughter is not academic, does not enjoy studying and there is no point in getting a tutor. She also said her daughter is just in an ordinary school and will not be sitting the 11+. That was not vague or open to interpretation. That was a clear statement.

So no, I do not think I got the wrong end of the stick. She gave me a completely different version of things than she gave to someone else later.

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Bellyblueboy · 11/07/2025 15:53

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 12:14

Yes it is not about needing to know every detail of someone’s personal life. But this wasn’t just passing small talk. She came to me with questions about SATs and showed interest in what I shared about my son and the 11+. It felt like we were having an open and honest chat as two parents, not just colleagues making polite conversation.

So when I later heard her say something completely different about her daughter and realised it didn’t match anything she’d told me, it did stick in my mind. It wasn’t about work, but about trust and how genuine someone is when they engage with you personally.

I’m not losing sleep over it, but it did leave me feeling a bit off, and I think it’s fair to reflect on why. I asked for perspective, not drama. Just trying to make sense of something that felt disingenuous.

Oh dear. She told a slightly different version of her life to you when she wanted advice than to others when she was making small talk.

You have now written her off as dishonest.

does this black and white thinking and obsessive ruminating impact on any other aspects of your life? I don’t know anyone who would give this a second thought. Well that’s wrong - I do. A neighbor who is extremely competitive when it comes to children and school and results and adults and salary levels. If this happened to her she might actually call the police😂🫣😂

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 15:50

Neemie · 11/07/2025 15:33

Are you quite competitive? If you are, maybe she doesn’t want to engage with it so plays it down. I do this. I hate other people competing with me.

I never tell anyone at work that I went to private school as it creates a weird reaction in some people. They seem to want to prove a point and start competing against you.

No, I am not competitive like that at all, especially not with her. She is my manager and several grades above me. There is no competition between us and I would not even see it that way. I have never tried to prove anything or make comparisons.

She asked me about my son's school, I answered honestly when she asked directly, and that was it. I do not bring things like that up unless I am asked. I think sometimes people assume there is some agenda or one upmanship when really it is just a normal conversation.

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temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 15:49

UpToonGirl · 11/07/2025 15:38

Sometimes OP people are in different moods which can mean they focus on positives and negatives. So my youngest for example has recently moved schools and he's doing really well and I would give that impression in general chit chat. However I have a friend who has a DS at his previous school, she is not overly happy with things so while I wouldn't lie I might be more likely to mention my DS hates me helping with his homework because I'm not going to brag about a school I know isn't an option for her. Also if DS has just been a bugger I might say something different to if he's been his usual self.

Tbh you seem fairly worked up about something that's really nothing to do with you. Maybe you got the wrong end of the stick when you were talking to your manager and rather than correct you she just went along with what she thought was easier. Would you say you often have these 'issues' with others?

I've also got another child who excels at maths and science but struggles with English (dyslexic) so you can big excel and struggle.

I’m not worked up about it, I was just wondering. Something didn’t sit right, and I came here to get different takes. I’m not going around stewing over it or bringing it up at work. It was just a moment that felt off, and I wanted to sense-check it.
And no, I wouldn’t say I regularly have issues with people. Just because I questioned this one situation doesn’t mean I go around falling out with everyone.

Most of the time I get on fine with others. I’m not expecting people to share everything or be completely open, but there’s a difference between keeping things to yourself and saying something that just isn’t true.

I completely understand how people present different sides of a situation depending on context or who they’re talking to. Your example with your son makes sense. But in this case, my manager gave me a version that turned out not to match reality at all. I’m not going to make a big deal out of it, but it did make me wonder.

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temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 15:47

TheignT · 11/07/2025 14:10

But you didn't hear her say something completely different unless you are going to tell us she has got a tutor for her. She was being polite listening to your tales of 11*.

She asked about the 11+ and then told me afterwards her daughter would not be academically bright enough to do it.

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TheGrimSmile · 11/07/2025 15:46

If it's private, it's not a grammar school

Bellyblueboy · 11/07/2025 15:45

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 13:05

Thank you!

Oh heavens is this all you want😂.

UpToonGirl · 11/07/2025 15:38

Sometimes OP people are in different moods which can mean they focus on positives and negatives. So my youngest for example has recently moved schools and he's doing really well and I would give that impression in general chit chat. However I have a friend who has a DS at his previous school, she is not overly happy with things so while I wouldn't lie I might be more likely to mention my DS hates me helping with his homework because I'm not going to brag about a school I know isn't an option for her. Also if DS has just been a bugger I might say something different to if he's been his usual self.

Tbh you seem fairly worked up about something that's really nothing to do with you. Maybe you got the wrong end of the stick when you were talking to your manager and rather than correct you she just went along with what she thought was easier. Would you say you often have these 'issues' with others?

I've also got another child who excels at maths and science but struggles with English (dyslexic) so you can big excel and struggle.

Neemie · 11/07/2025 15:33

Are you quite competitive? If you are, maybe she doesn’t want to engage with it so plays it down. I do this. I hate other people competing with me.

I never tell anyone at work that I went to private school as it creates a weird reaction in some people. They seem to want to prove a point and start competing against you.

Sundaybananas · 11/07/2025 14:54

one of my sons

  • was not academic,
  • did not enjoy studying,
  • and there would have been no point getting a tutor.
  • (English style) selective grammar schools would not have been on the table at all.
  • but he also excelled at a private school that has entrance assessments
  • and I would have referred to his school as a “regular school” if asked, although that’s seems an odd turn of phrase. (What is “regular”?)

Exactly which aspects of that came through in discussions with fellow parents at work would have depended entirely on the context of the conversation, what was on my mind at the time, common ground between me and the other parent, previous evenings dinner table discussions at home.

I would have been entirely truthful, but all of it is true (even though it seems contradictory to you) and I wouldn’t have thought to subject someone to a half hour monologue on the exact circumstances of my child’s education.

BreakingBroken · 11/07/2025 14:46

From the conversation you had you know the child attends a private school and isn’t academically driven at this stage/age.
Early entry tests assessments are really not a good gauge of future educational success, especially those that test at age 4-7-8, most parents will agree that testing at 10-11 still isn’t a great indicator of how clever a child will be in later life.
So a child can easily be at a selective school and not absolutely brilliant years on or simply struggling with the more complex maths and writing requirements.
As time passes you will “learn more”.

AreYouAGod · 11/07/2025 14:45

We have lots of independent schools locally, that have an exam that y7 need to pass to get a place. So they are technically ‘selective’ but not until y7.
I have never heard of a school that has an exam for children who are in y3 or younger.
Independent schools at prep are not selective and are much cheaper than at secondary.

This is what you don’t seem to understand.

Her daughter could currently be at a great private prep school with ‘grammar’ in the title that is selective at y7. But is also not academic and would not have a chance at the 11plus. And they wouldn’t invest in a tutor.

As private schools don’t always do SATs she may genuinely been interested and many don’t bother with the 11plus as they can afford school fees. She may genuinely have been interested in how the ‘state’ system works.

You have made assumptions. She asked direct questions. You should have asked more questions rather than just assumed.

The most obvious answer here is that you got the wrong end of the stick and seem to have blaming her!

thebrollachan · 11/07/2025 14:39

I would assume that her DD is at a fee-paying prep school which is the feeder school for a selective secondary school with its own entrance exam, for which she is being crammed. She doesn't need a tutor and she might not be up to the 11+.

I went to such a secondary school on a direct grant from the lea in the sixties. The pupils from the prep school were as thick as mince, and of course the average IQ plummeted once direct grants were abolished.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/07/2025 14:37

Hoppinggreen · 11/07/2025 14:30

I am aware
Its NOT a Grammar school though

It’s not a State Grammar but the word Grammar was incorporated into many private schools. It’s not exclusive to state.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/07/2025 14:35

Your boss asked you about SATs and you went on to talk about the 11plus and your dc at Grammar. which is irrelevant. I don’t see the relevance of the 11plus and sats and I think perhaps your boss thought you were bragging. So Gave you minimal information about her kid and moved on. Think that’s how I’d play it.

JLou08 · 11/07/2025 14:33

I don't see any lies? What I see is you creating your own narrative rather than taking her at her word.
Saying your child isn't into school and there's no point in getting a tutor doesn't mean they are at a state school and struggling academically.
I wouldn't get my son a tutor, he doesn't like school. However, he is very intelligent and prefers to learn independently in his own time.
You need to stop making up stories in your head, it could get you in trouble. If you make an assumption based on someone's word you should ask for clarification before deciding what you think is what they actually said.

Cattery · 11/07/2025 14:31

@Hoppinggreen Ok

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