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AIBU to wonder my manager lied about her daughter’s school?

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temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 11:28

Not sure if I’m overthinking this or if something odd is going on.

A while ago, my manager and I were chatting about our kids. She was asking about SATs for her 8-year-old DD. I explained what I knew and also mentioned the 11+ since my DS (14) is at a grammar school and went through the process.
She said her daughter isn’t really into study so there is no point getting a tutor. She made it sound like school isn’t really her thing.

Then just the other day, I overheard her telling someone else at work that her daughter is at a private grammar school. That really threw me, especially after our earlier conversation. I did not say anything, but I felt a bit taken aback.

I get that people do not always share everything, and maybe she didn’t want to go into it before, but it felt like a lie especially after she asked me for info and gave the impression her daughter wouldn’t be doing anything like the 11+. Why say all that if her daughter is already at a private grammar?

AIBU to feel confused and like she was being a bit dishonest?

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TheArtfulNavyDreamer · 11/07/2025 12:08

Also private schools for 8 year olds don’t have stringent entry requirements much beyond the ability to pay the term fees.

x2boys · 11/07/2025 12:08

LavenderBlue19 · 11/07/2025 11:32

Do you mean she's at a private grammar at 8 years old? As far as I know there's no such thing, grammars are secondary age.

Not necessarily ,in most parts of the UK state Grammar schools don't actually exist any way
The local private school in town Igrew up is called Town name Grammar school and they have pupils from nursery to sixth form he had that name since the 1800,s.

Whereismyjoiedevivre · 11/07/2025 12:07

Moral of the story - don’t eavesdrop on your colleague’s conversations.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 11/07/2025 12:07

*So she was asking about SATs, you talked about 11+ and she didn't want to get a tutor.

She's probably perfectly happy with the school her DD is attending and doesn't want a tutor to get her into a state grammar.

This seems like a non event to me.*

Exactly this. I can't see where she's lied to you about anything.

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 12:07

TheignT · 11/07/2025 12:03

OK this is what you said, "She was asking about SATs for her 8-year-old DD. I explained what I knew and also mentioned the 11+ since my DS (14) is at a grammar school and went through the process.
She said her daughter isn’t really into study so there is no point getting a tutor."

So she was asking about SATs, you talked about 11+ and she didn't want to get a tutor.

She's probably perfectly happy with the school her DD is attending and doesn't want a tutor to get her into a state grammar.

This seems like a non event to me.

I get that, and I wouldn’t have thought twice if she’d just said that. But it was the way she said it like her daughter wasn’t academic, didn’t enjoy studying, and tutoring or selective schools weren’t even on the radar. She really played it down.

But then later she told someone else that her daughter is at a private grammar school, which usually has its own entry requirements, and the term had already finished, which matched with that school. It just felt like she’d deliberately given me a totally different impression.

It’s not about where her daughter goes. It is he inconsistency that made me feel like she wasn’t being honest with me.

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Whereismyjoiedevivre · 11/07/2025 12:06

muggart · 11/07/2025 11:33

“private grammar school” is an oxymoron.

Maybe she goes to a non-selective private school. I know most private schools are selective but there are some that aren’t and she won’t need to take the 11+. Maybe it even uses “grammar” in the name.

Not only an oxymoron but impossible because the child is only eight and therefore three years too young for secondary school.

Curious thread 🤔

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 12:05

TheignT · 11/07/2025 12:00

So she said it wasn't worth getting a tutor and you think that somehow means her DD shouldn't be at a school with grammar in the name?

I'm confused.

No, that’s not what I meant at all. I don’t think being at a school with "grammar" in the name means a child has to be super academic or have a tutor. What felt off was the way she spoke about her daughter’s ability and interest in school, like she wouldn’t be doing anything selective or academic and then it turned out she’s at a private grammar school, which suggests there was a process or choice involved.

It just didn’t add up with what she’d told me, and that’s what made it feel a bit dishonest or like she was giving me a different version of the story. It’s not about where her daughter goes, but how she chose to present it.

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TheArtfulNavyDreamer · 11/07/2025 12:05

Excelling doesn’t always just mean academically. The private school could have a strong focus on sports or the arts or she could just mean she’s taken to the school well. It doesn’t mean she’d pass an 11+ or that she lied to you. Both things can be true.

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 12:04

MageQueen · 11/07/2025 11:47

There are bunch of schools around here that have grammar in the name but aren't grammar schools. It's very confusing. Isn't the PM's school an example of this too?

Also, if her child is not very academic, she may well have felt comfortable enough to tell you that but not whoever she was talking to so mentioned "private grammar" in some misguided attempt to big up her child. If anything, she lied to the other person, not you.

I guess the reason it felt off to me is that it felt like she lied to me, not the other person. She’s spoken about the school before in a way that downplayed it completely, like it wasn’t anything special and her daughter wasn’t particularly academic or interested.

But I know term time has already finished at the school her daughter is at. That, plus her comments to me, made it feel like she was deliberately hiding it. Then to hear her suddenly say “private grammar” to someone else just felt like a different version of the story entirely.

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TheignT · 11/07/2025 12:03

OK this is what you said, "She was asking about SATs for her 8-year-old DD. I explained what I knew and also mentioned the 11+ since my DS (14) is at a grammar school and went through the process.
She said her daughter isn’t really into study so there is no point getting a tutor."

So she was asking about SATs, you talked about 11+ and she didn't want to get a tutor.

She's probably perfectly happy with the school her DD is attending and doesn't want a tutor to get her into a state grammar.

This seems like a non event to me.

TheignT · 11/07/2025 12:00

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 11:41

Her daughter is already at a grammar so how did she change her mind about grammars? She is still at the same school before and after talking to me.

So she said it wasn't worth getting a tutor and you think that somehow means her DD shouldn't be at a school with grammar in the name?

I'm confused.

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 11:58

MoominUnderWater · 11/07/2025 11:53

But she was asking you about a proper state grammar for secondary school age kids, ie ones who have passed the 11plus. Which is not what her 8yo Dd is at.

its not unusual for parents of kids at a private prep/junior school to investigate the 11plus and state grammar options to save money at secondary.

just because her Dd is at a private primary paying fees it does not mean she is excelling at school regardless of the fact the school has “grammar” in the name.

She said herself her DD is excelling.

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twoshedsjackson · 11/07/2025 11:57

When I was at school (many years ago) there was a boy's school nearby, keen rival to our boy's school. Many of these selective schools had a long history, founded by historical benefactors; my own school has a history going back more than 300 years. They were absorbed into the state sector after the Butler Act , just after WW2, generally known as grant maintained grammar schools.
But times were changing, and the decision had to be made; stay on the state system but become comprehensive, close completely, or transfer back to the independent sector. You may remember that Sir Kier Starmer was a pupil at what was a grammar school which became independent while he was there.
My old school became a co-education comprehensive, another local girl's grammar closed entirely, the old rival boy's school opted for the private sector. They have now gone co-ed, and admit pupils from pre-prep onwards, but given the long history, the name "grammar" has somehow stuck, albeit not officially. They are fee-paying, and have their own admissions system.

EnchantedEvidence · 11/07/2025 11:54

Presumably she doesn’t think her 8 year old could get into an actual grammar school so has put her in a private school. Maybe she’s excelling compared to where she was before and improved a lot, enjoying school and has good support.

She also may not wanted to mention her daughters at a private school if she thinks you wouldn’t be able to afford it. She’s a manager so can send her daughter private but doesn’t want to seem out of touch or smug to her reports.

EnchantedEvidence · 11/07/2025 11:54

Presumably she doesn’t think her 8 year old could get into an actual grammar school so has put her in a private school. Maybe she’s excelling compared to where she was before and improved a lot, enjoying school and has good support.

She also may not wanted to mention her daughters at a private school if she thinks you wouldn’t be able to afford it. She’s a manager so can send her daughter private but doesn’t want to seem out of touch or smug to her reports.

EnchantedEvidence · 11/07/2025 11:53

Presumably she doesn’t think her 8 year old could get into an actual grammar school so has put her in a private school. Maybe she’s excelling compared to where she was before and improved a lot, enjoying school and has good support.

She also may not wanted to mention her daughters at a private school if she thinks you wouldn’t be able to afford it. She’s a manager so can send her daughter private but doesn’t want to seem out of touch or smug to her reports.

MoominUnderWater · 11/07/2025 11:53

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 11:41

Her daughter is already at a grammar so how did she change her mind about grammars? She is still at the same school before and after talking to me.

But she was asking you about a proper state grammar for secondary school age kids, ie ones who have passed the 11plus. Which is not what her 8yo Dd is at.

its not unusual for parents of kids at a private prep/junior school to investigate the 11plus and state grammar options to save money at secondary.

just because her Dd is at a private primary paying fees it does not mean she is excelling at school regardless of the fact the school has “grammar” in the name.

MageQueen · 11/07/2025 11:47

There are bunch of schools around here that have grammar in the name but aren't grammar schools. It's very confusing. Isn't the PM's school an example of this too?

Also, if her child is not very academic, she may well have felt comfortable enough to tell you that but not whoever she was talking to so mentioned "private grammar" in some misguided attempt to big up her child. If anything, she lied to the other person, not you.

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 11:47

TwinTantrums · 11/07/2025 11:45

You can only assume she’s excelling. Given your daughter is at a grammar, maybe you come across a bit smug?

That is what she told someone else.

I only mentioned about DS being at grammar school when she asked me so not sure how that means I come across as smug.

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mynameiscalypso · 11/07/2025 11:47

just because he’s daughter is doing well at a private primary school now, it doesn’t mean that she’d pass the 11+ and be able to go to a Grammar School

TwinTantrums · 11/07/2025 11:45

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 11:45

That is fine. She doesn't have to but why make up crap about her daughter? She said her daughter would not be able to get into a grammar school.

Her daughter is excelling at school.

You can only assume she’s excelling. Given your daughter is at a grammar, maybe you come across a bit smug?

MiddleAgedDread · 11/07/2025 11:45

I think you're getting your wires crossed here! Your daughter goes to a state grammar school where the 11+ is the entry requirement?
Her daughter goes to a private school that has grammar in it's title. She won't be doing the 11+ to go to the state grammar school because they intend to keep her at the current school into secondary level (which may or may not have their own entry requirement).
State grammar schools are secondary level education, age 11+, but other schools may have "Grammar" in their name.

temptemp2 · 11/07/2025 11:45

TwinTantrums · 11/07/2025 11:43

Maybe she just didn’t want to tell you?

That is fine. She doesn't have to but why make up crap about her daughter? She said her daughter would not be able to get into a grammar school.

Her daughter is excelling at school.

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skippy67 · 11/07/2025 11:44

Some people are a bit judgy about private school. Maybe she thought you're one of those. Or maybe she just didn't want to tell you. Which is fine.

TwinTantrums · 11/07/2025 11:43

Maybe she just didn’t want to tell you?