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Friend getting married abroad- other friend having tantrum

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ThatKeenJadeLeader · 11/07/2025 09:01

Good Morning,

I was wondering if anyone had any advice on how I can sort this situation out.

Friendship group of 5 of us. We are 36/37.

Me and two other women (married and kids), (one male) single no kids and other friend (currently in the process of marrying the most lovely man).

My friendship group has been together since uni. Me and two other women all got married from 27-30. Male friend never married/ never in a relationship. Other friend has been single despite being absolutely lovely and has finally found a bloke who treats her well- they got engaged last year and are planning the wedding.

Friend has family in Italy (was born here but has very elderly grandparents out there).

Anyway....male friend developed a problem with drinking and other things a few years ago and gave himself paranoia and anxiety through it. Friend has decided she wants to get married in her grandparents village in Italy so family who can't make the flight anymore can see her get married. She said she will also arrange a party for when she gets back for people here that won't be invited/ can't go.

Male friend has had a complete tantrum and left the group chat because his anxiety won't allow him to fly. Has messaged me and one of the other girls saying he can't believe she's being so selfish and she knows his issues and she should do it here at a location that would suit him.

This is not the first time he has acted like this. He is a horror at every life event we do. Got drunk at other friends daughters christening and started a rant about how it's a shame we all have to conform to stereotypical families etc. He's gay. At my hen party he had a full tantrum and other friends wedding he walked out of as she wasn't paying him enough attention and then got angry we didn't realise for over an hour that he had left. He has had plenty of opportunities for relationships as we did have a period of time where we thought he might be jealous and struggling but this is not the case. He is just immature in general.

I personally want to shake him and tell him to stop being so selfish, but other friend is saying we know how he is so we should try and calm it down.

I have absolutely taken a massive step back from him over the years because all he wants is drama, but we do remain civil, but this one has thrown me right over the edge.

Would I be the arsehole to not pussyfoot round him and give him some home truths on how he's behaving? We never do normally and always end up feeling sorry for him when he eventually apologises when he realises he has gone too far.

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TorroFerney · 11/07/2025 12:02

BriefHug · 11/07/2025 09:20

Just because Fate/a uni administrator placed a certain set of individuals in rooms adjacent to yours at university doesn't mean you have to stick with them for the rest of your lives if they don't evolve in a direction that you actually like.

Exactly this, I imagine also that subconsciously you all get something out of the drama, it’s something you get used to it’s familiar and gives you something to talk about.

he isn’t your problem to solve.

TheArtfulNavyDreamer · 11/07/2025 12:00

Do not pander you might give him the impression that his behavior is acceptable or reasonable. Tell him he’s not the main character in other friends wedding and that she can marry wherever she likes especially when it gives her the opportunity to include her grandparents. Honestly I’m getting wound up at him just thinking about it!

Toddlerteaplease · 11/07/2025 12:00

Behaving like that would make him an ex friend pretty quickly.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 11/07/2025 11:57

Oh god you all need to stop pandering to him. Tell him to wind his neck in and that the world does not, in fact, revolve around him.

His behaviour is manipulative attention seeking. Stop rewarding it.

WaitedBlankey · 11/07/2025 11:57

If he's left the WhatsApp group, surely that's a win for everyone?

Don't bother with 'home truths' because that will just become another drama he can star in. Do what will really hurt - just ignore all of this nonsense. Don't engage, don't reply, don't get involved in any manner.

Have a lovely time at the wedding! I hope your friend has a wonderful day.

woodlandnoise · 11/07/2025 11:47

I'm sorry OP but he sounds like an utter arsehole. I've known and worked with plenty of people with MH issues and they dont use that as an excuse to treat other people like shit as he is doing.

He sounds like a vile, toxic individual and frankly, I wonder why any of you have remained friends with someone so utterly self absorbed and selfish in the first place.

He'd have been long gone from my life....

BusyMum47 · 11/07/2025 11:46

@ThatKeenJadeLeader

Oh, fuck that shit! I would absolutely be the one to tell him some very long overdue home truths & sod the consequences! What a selfish twat! Why does everyone tip-toe around him?? You've all grown up & he hasn't - maybe time to cut the cord & let him drift away!

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2025 11:45

ThatKeenJadeLeader · 11/07/2025 09:13

He won't leave where we live. His weed smoking gave him paranoia and anxiety to the point he can't travel and he won't have therapy.

This is not your problem or your friend's problem to solve.

The friendship has ruin its course.

Support your friend who is getting married, tell your other friends how you feel but you understand why they might want to stay friend but you will now be giving this bloke a wide birth.

You don't owe him anything. You don't need to try and fix anything. You don't need to explain anything to him.

He's toxic. He won't respond well to anything you say, because he's so consumed by the above. He will only lash out at you. He isn't willing to take steps to deal with the problem and you can't make him.

Do not feel guilty or obliged to do anything further.

Epidote · 11/07/2025 11:44

I bet 50 p that your male friend is not single by choice.
Don't do anything he can embarrass him3as much a she can with those demands and tamtrums.

MyMilchick · 11/07/2025 11:43

So his flying issues should be a priority over her grandparents? lmao. He sounds like a complete nightmare, he's going to lose all of his friends if he doesn't sort himself out

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 11/07/2025 11:39

Why do so many people on MN have "friends" they don't like?

Noshadelamp · 11/07/2025 11:25

Pp need to stop pandering to him. He's trained the group to respond nicely and calm him down and centre him.

I can't work out if it's misogynistic or narcissistic or both. Both probably.

His anxiety does not trump the bride wanting to marry wherever she wants in front of elderly grandparents.

BlokeHereInPeace · 11/07/2025 11:15

Be tempted to tell him he's not invited and not wanted. Nobody says no anymore. Too easy to medicalise things like behaving like a total wanker.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 11/07/2025 10:57

He’s clearly not a friend to any of you. Just stop engaging with him at all. And enjoy your trip to Italy to celebrate with your real friend.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 11/07/2025 10:52

It sounds like he is really struggling with MH problems. His latest tantrum isn't just selfish it's highly irrational. Of course no one should pander to it. None of you need to waste time with someone so difficult but you can still be there for him when he gets through whatever is going on. He needs to work through his MH problems himself and find his own way. Your friend shouldn't need to be thinking about him when she is getting married. To be honest if the wedding was only down the road I'm not sure he should go, if I was getting married i wouldn't want a highly anxious person going.

lalalalalady · 11/07/2025 10:49

Sounds like it’s a good job he can’t attend then due to his fear of flying. He’s more hassle than it’s worth.

CoraPirbright · 11/07/2025 10:49

Goodness he sound deranged! As tempting as it might be, I don’t think that telling him the”home truths’ about his vile behaviour is going to do one bit of good. He won’t listen and take it on board. Your best bet is for the entire friendship group to form a united front, totally block him and move on. You will be much happier and more settle without him in your lives. I do feel sorry for his parents though - I hope he doesnt treat them in a similarly appalling manner.

Shortpoet · 11/07/2025 10:48

The only thing you need to do is reassure friend getting married that you completely support her.

Caroparo52 · 11/07/2025 10:47

What a drama lama. He's immature and attention seeking. Why should lovely df plan her major life event around him.
Ignore his dramatics. If you don't fan the fire it will eventually go out.

rainingsnoring · 11/07/2025 10:46

@ThatKeenJadeLeader it sounds as if you and your friends should have let this friendship slide a long time ago.

rainingsnoring · 11/07/2025 10:45

WondererWanderer · 11/07/2025 10:03

He's not a narcissist for fuck sake.

To me he sounds undiagnosed anxiety issue, mental illness, maybe autistic but presenting as MH issues etc. All the hall marks there. No personal relationships, lives with his parents etc.

When will this obsession with everyone being a narc end.

How do you know whether he is a narcissist or not? No one does. He is displaying some narcissistic behaviour though.
Most people with anxiety and autistic traits don't behave in this vile manner. Whatever his problems are, he is behaving in an appalling way and refusing to seek any help.

Eddielizzard · 11/07/2025 10:42

Leave him to flounce and stop pandering to him. Enjoy the wedding without the drama

anyzee · 11/07/2025 10:41

I'd laugh in his face first.

Then point him in the direction of the nearest psychiatrist to deal with his issues.

Then block.

BMW6 · 11/07/2025 10:40

Well it's a bloody good job he won't go to her wedding - the toxic cunt would only try and ruin it!

I certainly wouldn't bother with him anymore

Floatlikeafeather2 · 11/07/2025 10:40

WondererWanderer · 11/07/2025 09:32

Eurostar to Paris.

High speed train from Paris to Milan - only 6.5 hours.

Train from Milan to wherever in Italy you are or to the major airports you'll be landing in and someone can collect him.

Italy's rail network is good and very reasonable.

He doesnt have to fly. Put it to him and leave it there.

Don't do this, OP! There just might be an outside chance that he would actually do it (bonus drama points - "Look what an effort I made to be here for you. It took me days! You should be so honoured.") and end up ruining the whole thing.

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