Seriously thinking about leaving the UK

It has escaped my notice, given it really isn’t. If it’s such a lovely evening why are you here at all? And since you are, finding the evidence should be easy.

Move to Ireland. From UK you don’t need visa.

I've been living in Catalunya for years.

There is no amount of money that would convince me to move back to the UK.

We live in the centre of Barcelona. It is much safer, the healthcare is much better (incomparably so), the criminal justice system functions better and is focused much more in rehabilitation and less on punishment, the (state) schools are good, our kids are trilingual, sports and arts extra curricular activities are affordable and widely available...

It is a wonderful place and I love it here and so do pretty much everyone I know who has chosen to live here as do those who are from here originally.

It is not a place to make your fortune, wages are low. But the quality of life is excellent.

Problem now is even the middle classes are struggling with cost of living, collapsing public services and unprecedented demographic change, as well as a bleak job market and dreadful housing market for their teenage children.

We'll see major white flight from the UK over the next decade and millions more unskilled migrants for Starmer and his globalist pals to allow in to replace them, while being able to say net migration isn't that high because all the natives are leaving.

Plenty of data available for that, and if it wasn’t such a lovely evening I’d find some. The Benefits system is broken, perhaps it’s escaped your notice but it’s one of the reasons for the demise of public services.

And you have data to show that there are significant numbers doing that, of course?

Happy to pay taxes at the current top rate, but no more. And yes, more than happy to pay for where it’s needed. Not to support able people who choose not to work.

I knew you were in Ireland so basically, for you, it’s a lovely extra benefit which you make good use of. But if you didn’t have that job and associated healthcare package you’d still be alright?

This isn’t a terrorist support thread Davros it’s a thread weighing up the current situation of the UK and whether it’s worth considering living elsewhere.

@Davros im not in the USA, Im living in Ireland so there is free public healthcare for everyone here, having a private healthcare package just gives you access to private hospitals which essentially just speeds things up and there is less overcrowding etc. say if the wait list for public care was 2 weeks Id likely wait 2 days...for non urgent care where public wait lists are months and months Ive only had to wait 2 weeks.
Also gives money back for things like glasses, dentist visits, GP visits. Earlier this year I got new glasses and prescription sunglasses went for high end in both and it was €500 but I got €250 of that back with my private healthcare. If i didn't work or have insurance then there are much much cheaper options.
Now that I have it I feel I never want to be without it but realistically we have a free healthcare available to all citizens so if the day ever came where i was without it I would be fine.

Poster starts an incendiary thread then pisses off - never to return.

Good and don't bang the door on your way out.

I certainly could not care one jittegy jot if you go to Canada

Wow. You live in London. If you don't like the shops near you, you can literally take a short bus or train ride using London's excellent public transport to have the choice of thousands of shops, to say nothing of all the glorious culture and history that is to be found there. And you're complaining because you have cosmopolitan shops in your area.

If you're not happy with your circumstances that is on you, and no-one else.

I did type that in

Type in “Hate Marches London”. Not the kind of environment I want my future grandchildren to grow up in.

I just googled and I’m still not sure

Wow, how do you cope when shops close for Christmas? Had you not realised you could just shop somewhere else than your tiny bit of east london?

I actually don’t know what you mean. Do you mean pro Palestinian or pro Israel or something else altogether?

I live in the uk but im not in it for long.
I go away on holiday stay as long as i can come back for said amount of time and bugger off again.
I dont book hotels either i rent from a local a little place not very big and pay rent so home from home.
I have kitchen bathroom shower bedroom living room very small but for less than 200 uk sterling a month why not.
I love it its more my home over there i have it done how i like it i know the locals well.

Unlike my uk home that only has the bare basics in it.
Im home now but will be gone again in about 1-2 weeks for 2 months back home 1-2 weeks gone again for 2 months.

I think you know exactly what I mean. And if you don’t a quick google will suffice.

@cupfinalchaos. Tell me about these hate marches in London. I don’t know what you mean

Happy to pay taxes as long as they spend it on what you think valuable?
Of course it’s still worth his while.
What percentile earnings are you on?

I’m genuinely curious about people, like @Applecrumble9 or many in the USA who have great healthcare packages but they are connected to their job/employer. What do people do in those places who don’t work, for whatever reason, or who are old or disabled etc or who lose that job or want to work elsewhere?

LOL. So I guess that would make you immigrants?

No, I unfortunately don’t. Not unless they married a Swiss person, are insanely rich or have some incredibly specific professional qualifications.

student visas are quite common and many people end up marrying their uni boyfriends/girlfriends…

This is an example of what's wrong with our society. Have 4 kids and get paid 3k.. while I couldn't even afford to have a child until I earnt enough. Makes many people feel like they should just not bother to work - I don't bloody blame them. Where is the incentive ... to the poster who said the well off minorities are the problem.. how exactly? Assuming its not a Company you refer to that minority will pay more than 50 % of the entire tax bill and probably not use any government funded services . Please explain it to us