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Seriously thinking about leaving the UK

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Tanyasfootspa · 11/07/2025 08:15

I’m not sure when the turning point was, but DH and I have hit a wall. The DC are both at university now, and for the first time in a long time, we’re thinking seriously about leaving the UK. The only thing stopping us is wanting to be close to potential future grandchildren.

It just doesn’t feel like the same country anymore. Everything seems to be falling apart — the NHS, education, transport, basic services — and yet at the same time, there’s this growing mindset that the government should step in and fix every personal problem. I’m all for supporting people who genuinely need help, but it’s frustrating seeing how much personal responsibility has gone out the window. It feels like no one’s expected to stand on their own two feet anymore.

We’ve worked hard our whole lives, paid our taxes, and honestly, it feels like we’re constantly penalised for it. Meanwhile, the cost of living is insane, our quality of life is slipping, and every time we turn on the news, it’s just more chaos or excuses.

We’ve started looking at options — maybe Canada, or somewhere in Europe (though Brexit makes that harder). We don’t expect a perfect life anywhere, but we want to live somewhere that still feels like it’s moving forward, not falling apart.

Has anyone else made the move once the kids were grown up? Did it help? Are we just burned out, or is this how others are feeling too?

Would really love to hear your honest experiences.

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Momtotwokids · 12/07/2025 03:58

merrymelody · 11/07/2025 09:39

Canada’s economy is dire. The Canadian dollar just gets weaker and weaker. Taxes are extremely high, some of which goes to support our “free” healthcare (brilliant if you’re seriously ill but waiting lists sometimes years long to see a specialist, have surgery or for things like scans, MRIs. No private healthcare. Impossible to buy a home, be it house or flat, unless you’re a multimillionaire (seriously!), lots of violent crime due to drugs and poverty, extreme lack of mental health care, COL and food prices have also gone stratospheric since Covid, minimum wage is too low to even begin to cover an adequate lifestyle. My DS (21) is currently working two jobs, seven days a week. Still, preferable to the US, which is (as everyone knows) a shitshow.

Speak for yourself about the US.

coxesorangepippin · 12/07/2025 03:45

287 posts and no reply from op

7inchesFromTheMiddaySun · 12/07/2025 03:22

humptydumptyfelloff · 11/07/2025 08:52

With you op

we have discussed this at length and it is something we really would consider.

we have quite a while to go yet as we are late 40s but this country is crippling in so many ways.

I have a business and this last year with government changes,cost of living and just general being robbed blind one way or another it’s been a year of stress to be honest and it shouldn’t be like that but if you aren’t a chain or big corporate you stand no chance here anymore.
they don’t want the small people to be successful all they are interested in is lining their own pockets.

our people in charge get away with every type of fraud possible on a daily basis they just don’t even bother to hide it anymore and we all just float along with it

the mood in this country is generally oppressive and people are pissed off and miserable which has a knock on effect.
and yes the entitlement is absolutely shocking here.

I dis agree with people saying the grass isn’t always greener.

we’ve travelled and were in a European country recently and within half an hour of being there we noticed what a difference in peoples attitudes it was crazy

the locals all worked together within their community to create clean safe areas,most of the businesses were independents,we saw one chain coffee shop on the whole island.

we didn’t see one homeless person or gangs in the streets and when speaking to locals were told how their system is very different to ours and it works.

they have a better work life balance so people feel less stressed.

that’s how it should be.

this country just wants to keep taking and providing fuck all for it.

we are meant to be a rich country but the poverty here is unreal and the sheer amount of food banks and children living in hell should not be happening.

people are dying because our nhs has collapsed

seeing elderly people on trollers in corridors for 12 plus hours waiting to be seen in a and e to me is the worst it can be and don’t even get me started on the lack of any mental health provision here.

im not surprised our suicide rate is so high as a country.

but still it carries on

i say go for it op

What island was that?

TheGrimSmile · 12/07/2025 03:12

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 11/07/2025 09:48

The UK. I live in East London. We have Sharia law in some parts round here already. The schools close for Eid etc.. there are literally no British shops on the high street...
Before you say "move" I was born here.

Oh give over! 😆

DrPrunesqualer · 12/07/2025 02:52

InWalksBarberalla · 11/07/2025 22:27

I can't understand this mindset - you've been incredibly fortunate to be living in a developed country - with all the benefits of the UK and appear to have done well. You could just as easily be born in a war torn country facing extreme poverty.
And now after all your advantages, things are a bit 'tough' (too many taxes?) so you figure you deserve even more. If the UK is going downhill so badly why don't you stay and fight for the country that's given you so much - become politically active say - rather than taking of to another country to sit around giving even less.

I get it. If they want to go they can go. Theoretically if a country lets you in it’s a new adventure.

Zellycat · 12/07/2025 02:43

Tanyasfootspa · 11/07/2025 08:15

I’m not sure when the turning point was, but DH and I have hit a wall. The DC are both at university now, and for the first time in a long time, we’re thinking seriously about leaving the UK. The only thing stopping us is wanting to be close to potential future grandchildren.

It just doesn’t feel like the same country anymore. Everything seems to be falling apart — the NHS, education, transport, basic services — and yet at the same time, there’s this growing mindset that the government should step in and fix every personal problem. I’m all for supporting people who genuinely need help, but it’s frustrating seeing how much personal responsibility has gone out the window. It feels like no one’s expected to stand on their own two feet anymore.

We’ve worked hard our whole lives, paid our taxes, and honestly, it feels like we’re constantly penalised for it. Meanwhile, the cost of living is insane, our quality of life is slipping, and every time we turn on the news, it’s just more chaos or excuses.

We’ve started looking at options — maybe Canada, or somewhere in Europe (though Brexit makes that harder). We don’t expect a perfect life anywhere, but we want to live somewhere that still feels like it’s moving forward, not falling apart.

Has anyone else made the move once the kids were grown up? Did it help? Are we just burned out, or is this how others are feeling too?

Would really love to hear your honest experiences.

You are correct. UK has not hit rock bottom but descending quickly.

Are you working? Can you get a transfer out?

There’s no reason to stay in place here crime increasing, tax increasing, gov feeble and country becoming lawless & full of non-workers.

SouthernNights59 · 12/07/2025 02:30

IcedPurple · 11/07/2025 14:21

We are just back from 3 weeks in Australia, and all I can say, is that it was like Utopia compared to the UK

Apart from the massive housing crisis, soaring cost of living and the looming catastrophe of climate change?

Anywhere can 'seem like Utopia' on a brief visit.

As far as I'm aware the UK also has a massive housing crisis and a soaring cost of living, and I've just seen Australia on a list of best places to live to avoid climate change. The weather itself would sell me on Australia over the UK, along with the fact that Australians are more upbeat.

Whosenameisthis · 12/07/2025 00:15

Inexplicable3Bed · 11/07/2025 23:28

I can’t tell you if you’re joking or not. I have worked with asylum seekers who stay in these kind of ‘hotels’ and luxury they are most definitely not. I could elaborate in detail but I expect you won’t change your view.

It makes me laugh that people think these hotels are actually functioning as hotels, and asylum seekers get room service, meals, laundry etc.

the one in Wakefield that hit the news recently everyone assumed the asylum seekers were running a restaurant from the hotel’s kitchen. The media of course carefully skewed the narrative to make it seem that way.

turned out the hotel kitchen, which is not in use as the hotel is not serving meals to it’s clientele, what with it not being a hotel, was being sublet to two businesses. Nothing to do with the asylum seekers living there.

Inexplicable3Bed · 11/07/2025 23:28

User32459 · 11/07/2025 22:22

Leave and then come back on a boat and live the life of luxury in a hotel with free meals and be waited on hand and foot.

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I can’t tell you if you’re joking or not. I have worked with asylum seekers who stay in these kind of ‘hotels’ and luxury they are most definitely not. I could elaborate in detail but I expect you won’t change your view.

BunnyLake · 11/07/2025 22:48

BatchCookBabe · 11/07/2025 19:46

Costa Rica and Mexico above the United Kingdom?! 😂😂

And Israel is too?!!!

And also all those Eastern block countries, that people always seem keen to leave - to live in the UK! 😬 All above the UK, for the best places to live?!

Clearly a load of made up nonsense that 'poll!' 😆 Who writes this shit?!

Edited

Mexico’s a surprise. I recently watched a youtube channel on the Ten most dangerous cities in the world and nine of them were in Mexico 😮

Davros · 11/07/2025 22:29

@Tryonemoretime that’s interesting. I wondered what happens when good healthcare is accessed through a job. It must take a lot of choices away where work is concerned and we all have to stop sometime

InWalksBarberalla · 11/07/2025 22:27

I can't understand this mindset - you've been incredibly fortunate to be living in a developed country - with all the benefits of the UK and appear to have done well. You could just as easily be born in a war torn country facing extreme poverty.
And now after all your advantages, things are a bit 'tough' (too many taxes?) so you figure you deserve even more. If the UK is going downhill so badly why don't you stay and fight for the country that's given you so much - become politically active say - rather than taking of to another country to sit around giving even less.

PeloMom · 11/07/2025 22:24

vivainsomnia · 11/07/2025 08:18

I was going to ask where you plan ro go because I agree with everything you say but its not a UK issue, its a global one. Most countries assume its an internal frustration brought on by their own political party in charge.

It certainly is the case for the majority of European countries but I don't know about Canada. Any Canadians residents here?

🙋🏻‍♀️ I moved from England to Canada after brexit (was a coincidence, not because of Brexit, just giving an idea of timing).
while I agree UK has gone downhill in the past 10 or so yrs (still spend a fair bit of time in UK too), I’d say standard of living in Canada is worse:

  • very expensive - property, day to day living etc. Average pay and cost of things make no sense - pay is low, cost is high
  • healthcare is also so so with the added disadvantage of no private options. In England at least if you want to pay and get seen, you have that option.
  • It’s COLD most of the year
  • taxes in many instances are higher than UK
I’d try figure out something in Europe if I were you
User32459 · 11/07/2025 22:22

Leave and then come back on a boat and live the life of luxury in a hotel with free meals and be waited on hand and foot.

Suusue · 11/07/2025 22:18

My 28 year old son went to New Zealand last November and has now applied for residency. Got a good job within a couple of weeks and loves it there. As much as we all miss him I would not wish him back here. Go for it.

DOCTORCEE · 11/07/2025 22:13

Poopeepoopee · 11/07/2025 08:20

I was also about to say, its a global problem, not a domestic one.

It's the same everywhere. ESPECIALLY Canada.

Yep, Australia is the same.

Cel77 · 11/07/2025 22:12

Tanyasfootspa · 11/07/2025 08:15

I’m not sure when the turning point was, but DH and I have hit a wall. The DC are both at university now, and for the first time in a long time, we’re thinking seriously about leaving the UK. The only thing stopping us is wanting to be close to potential future grandchildren.

It just doesn’t feel like the same country anymore. Everything seems to be falling apart — the NHS, education, transport, basic services — and yet at the same time, there’s this growing mindset that the government should step in and fix every personal problem. I’m all for supporting people who genuinely need help, but it’s frustrating seeing how much personal responsibility has gone out the window. It feels like no one’s expected to stand on their own two feet anymore.

We’ve worked hard our whole lives, paid our taxes, and honestly, it feels like we’re constantly penalised for it. Meanwhile, the cost of living is insane, our quality of life is slipping, and every time we turn on the news, it’s just more chaos or excuses.

We’ve started looking at options — maybe Canada, or somewhere in Europe (though Brexit makes that harder). We don’t expect a perfect life anywhere, but we want to live somewhere that still feels like it’s moving forward, not falling apart.

Has anyone else made the move once the kids were grown up? Did it help? Are we just burned out, or is this how others are feeling too?

Would really love to hear your honest experiences.

It might be tricky for you once/if you have grandchildren. It's never the same if you're far away. You'll miss out on so much of their lives. It's not rosier elsewhere. I'd really do my homework before moving abroad.

Tryonemoretime · 11/07/2025 21:37

Davros · 11/07/2025 17:59

I’m genuinely curious about people, like @Applecrumble9 or many in the USA who have great healthcare packages but they are connected to their job/employer. What do people do in those places who don’t work, for whatever reason, or who are old or disabled etc or who lose that job or want to work elsewhere?

An American I know has a health condition. Her health insurance company (from her employer) would only pay for the cheapest medication - one which couldn't effectively deal with the problem. It was too expensive for her to buy herself. She tried the cheaper medication she was offered and became very ill. She then had to take a lot of time off work and was sacked. That meant she no longer had any health insurance at all...

BoredZelda · 11/07/2025 20:25

Penalised how? @Tanyasfootspa

DrPrunesqualer · 11/07/2025 20:21

BatchCookBabe · 11/07/2025 19:46

Costa Rica and Mexico above the United Kingdom?! 😂😂

And Israel is too?!!!

And also all those Eastern block countries, that people always seem keen to leave - to live in the UK! 😬 All above the UK, for the best places to live?!

Clearly a load of made up nonsense that 'poll!' 😆 Who writes this shit?!

Edited

You Govn opinion poll. So the people in the countries. They must be far happier there than those in the U.K. maybe we’re all just a miserable lot. Maybe our expectations are higher

Barney16 · 11/07/2025 20:14

I completely understand what you mean but leaving my children would be unbearable. Having said that I spend a lot of time worrying that this country isn't the one I grew up in, in terms of opportunities and they don't have the same opportunities that I have had. Now you have to work a lot harder to simply stand still.

KateMiskin · 11/07/2025 20:02

User32459 · 11/07/2025 19:14

Problem now is even the middle classes are struggling with cost of living, collapsing public services and unprecedented demographic change, as well as a bleak job market and dreadful housing market for their teenage children.

We'll see major white flight from the UK over the next decade and millions more unskilled migrants for Starmer and his globalist pals to allow in to replace them, while being able to say net migration isn't that high because all the natives are leaving.

Edited

White flight? Lol at white people being the only skilled ones. Have you looked at the NHS or the City or tech? Literally millions of skilled non-whites with medical, finance and engineering degrees. The CEOs of nearly every Silicon Valley startup are non-white. As is every doctor in my NHS practice.

Maybe talk about the flight of talent. Because there are sure as hell many non- skilled, lazy white people here.

BatchCookBabe · 11/07/2025 19:46

DrPrunesqualer · 11/07/2025 13:19

Here’s the top countries in the 2025 World Happiness Report

Costa Rica and Mexico above the United Kingdom?! 😂😂

And Israel is too?!!!

And also all those Eastern block countries, that people always seem keen to leave - to live in the UK! 😬 All above the UK, for the best places to live?!

Clearly a load of made up nonsense that 'poll!' 😆 Who writes this shit?!

EdisinBurgh · 11/07/2025 19:45

Just move to a nicer place in Britain

There are many thriving and desirable places eg market towns in the north.

And contribute to keeping it a nice place to live.

A town or village is only as good as its people. They’re not five star hotels where someone else magically provides you with a great place to live while you sit back and soak up the service. You have to nurture it yourself.

cardibach · 11/07/2025 19:39

User32459 · 11/07/2025 19:14

Problem now is even the middle classes are struggling with cost of living, collapsing public services and unprecedented demographic change, as well as a bleak job market and dreadful housing market for their teenage children.

We'll see major white flight from the UK over the next decade and millions more unskilled migrants for Starmer and his globalist pals to allow in to replace them, while being able to say net migration isn't that high because all the natives are leaving.

Edited

The reason for that is increasing inequality and wealth being dragged up to the very top. Taxing actual wealth is the answer.