Seriously thinking about leaving the UK

What a load of absolute horseshit.

This country is cooked, OP. Get you while you still can.

It’s full of lazy, beggar mentality takers with no concept of how money works and that you need the rich and high net worth individuals to stay and keep them in their free loading largesse.

They are so thick that they gleefully wave the rich goodbye, while squealing that there is no money left.

The level of economic and fiscal ignorance is staggering. Let them learn the hard way.

Switzerland is not in the European Union so Brexit makes zero difference to a British person’s chances of emigrating there (it’s as hard as it ever was)

Ps, Switzerland takes in the fourth highest number of refugees of any country in Europe per capita. Ten years ago it took the most, proportionally speaking. It also does a good job of making them good Swiss citizens and integrating them well into their society.

A big difference is high levels of personal responsibility of Swiss people to contribute to their villages, towns and cities being great places to live. They’re not passive. Britain can’t be improved only by the government or the few who have economic power. It’s about community power too. Everyone has to be motivated to help improve things.

Source: https://asylumineurope.org/reports/country/switzerland/overview-main-changes-previous-report-update/

Macron and France blame the UK for the problem because it's seen as an El Dorado for migrants. They get free accommodation, their food paid for, an allowance and then benefits galore once they're accepted and top of the social housing list.

It might not be luxury, but we've got loads of our own out on the street who get nothing.

This is not accurate: There are Sharia councils/tribunals operating throughout the UK. These groups don’t have any official legal power and can’t overrule British law, but they still hold a lot of influence. It’s well known that they carry on behind the scenes, and authorities choose not to intervene.

I have worked with a lot of ‘asylum seekers’ and 99% of them are economic migrants

Of course they are, but the question is what skills do they have to become a productive member of society once we grant them status? Or will they just stay on benefits or deliver takeaways?

If they had skills they wouldn't need to break in, they could easily get legal status in Europe.

People's solution to fundamental problems is increase taxes.

We've already got millions out of work because work doesn't pay. Tax people more and more will just not bother.

I’m assuming you are saying this as some sort of “rage-bait” and if you are it has worked.

You really think a whole family living in one hotel room in a shitty hotel due for demolition (yes, the one near me that housed asylum seekers has now gone) with no access to cooking facilities is luxury?

If the place they are parked provides food they get less than a tenner a week to live on, again not exactly luxury and you can be sure the food they get is much more school dinner than Michelin star.

I really hope you never find yourself in a situation where a bit of compassion from your fellow humans goes a long way.

Quite. Utter nonsense.
Plus the OP wants to be an economic migrant, doesn’t she? And several others in the thread…

Also Brexit made no difference whatsoever. Switzerland is not in the EU.

Switzerland is so closed as a society though, it’s not for everyone

And what were the conditions in the luxury hotels you visited? How was the food? How much money did they have to spend a week?

Here is the real question: on what basis will you move to another country? Do you have EU or Canadian family or passports? If not, you need to get a skilled job in order to work and settle. Free movement to and from the EU has ended, and you can't just go and love there because you feel like a change. You need a visa.

I seriously hope this is irony!

Oh no all the foreigners coming here (although you didn’t say that I suspect that’s what you mean) so your solution, take your ungrateful entitled self to another country and expect to be able to live the life you want based on other peoples tax contributions.

It’s this kind of emotional and fact free rhetoric that makes reasonable debate involving the public more difficult.

Yes, it has changed according to this fairly recent article.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/09/leaving-new-zealand-record-departure-numbers

I will bet that 'schools close for Eid' on an inset day.

Churches have 'turned into mosques' because... 🥁 so few people attend church these days. So they close.

Yes - some a
high streets are overwhelmingly Asian (and thriving, unlike high streets elsewhere). If this bothers you so much, get on a bus/tube/train 10 minutes elsewhere.

We lived there 25 years ago and the young people certainly left to do their ' overseas experience ' for a few years because NZ is so geographically isolated, but people told us that they did generally come home after being away for a few years. Obviously this could have changed a lot now .We loved living there ( four and a half years) but financially just could not make it work.

''@eqpi4t2hbsnktd · Yesterday 09:48
The UK. I live in East London. We have Sharia law in some parts round here already. The schools close for Eid etc.. there are literally no British shops on the high street...
Before you say "move" I was born here.''

What a lot of nonsense.

I lived in East London for 20 years and what you are describing is just Reform type propaganda, ie a lot of hot air to create division.

NZ has the highest rate of emigration among 'first world' countries. The young and educated leave in huge numbers - often to Australia and the UK - because there just aren't the opportunities for them in their home country.

Decades and decades of uber-liberalism has destroyed the west. You can have liberal policies but you can't run a country off just liberalism and the globalist order without wrecking it, as we're now seeing.

Scandinavia is still a good standard of living if you can avoid the bomb cities of Sweden. And unlike our soft arses, they're actually tackling immigration (and integration) now in a big way.

My two elder sons were born in NZ and I do wonder if they could go and work there. I keep looking on their skills list to see if their jobs would be in demand. Do you mind me asking what your son is doing. One of mine is in health and safety ( construction sites etc ).

Most people simply can't afford to be taxed more and many rely on tax credits even with a salary. If you're a young person most of your wages go on rent and bills as it is and you can't save for a house. The rich can afford it, but tax them high and they'll just fuck off to Dubai or somewhere anyway where they won't be taxed much.

And just throwing more money at things doesn't make them more efficient.

For starters, stop paying billions and billions of tax payers money every year to put illegal migrants in hotels. Importing endless migrants who in most cases just add to the benefits bill. Stop bankrupting ourselves with net zero. We're destroying ourselves and we're about to get the same white flight we've had from our cities, out of the country altogether.

Yup. Lots of shit things about the UK and lots of wonderful things about Oz. I never for a moment suggested otherwise.

My point is that nowhere is a 'utopia' and nearly all Western countries are dealing with similar issues right now. Australia is far from paradise on earth, however wonderful it might seem just passing through.