Vanity sizing needs to be stopped

66° North. They have a sale at the moment.

My DIL is a size 4. She manages to buy clothes that are not children's clothes but she doesn't buy in cheap shops.

wondererwanderer

thanks, that would be great as hoping to walk the Camino in January and have no outdoorsy stuff

Exactly this.

There is a brand I love for outdoor wear, fleeces and hiking kit, etc that is ridiculously undersized.

I take a medium in an any other clothes but I need a L to XL in this brand as they are so small.

If you want an antidote to oversized clothes as you need to wear a 6-8 at 8 stone then I'll give you the details as you'll need to order a medium most likely.

It’s not being a size 6-8, it’s some people’s posts and their wording. Often I notice the same posters popping up on threads like this as well as food threads that show they have disordered eating.

A while back there was a thread that was very pro ana, discussing how little people ate, their small appetites, that they fitted into children’s clothes, that women’s clothes are just so big, them being horrified if they ate too much etc. Someone mentioned that many of the posters had previously posted a lot about food and saying they had eating disorders and it descended into a row with people trying to deny it. Mumsnet did delete the thread as it was really concerning and unhealthy. Unfortunately threads like this are often made by those struggling with food and body issues and I don’t think they’re always helpful.

I think the ability to order clothes from other countries also muddies the waters.I recently ordered what looked like a short dress online, and ordered large as I am size 14 and 5 foot 10. If I had wanted a T Shirt it would have been perfect but it was obviously made for somebody much shorter.

wonderwanderer

well no, my first point is where can I go with adult clothes? If I actually dropped to the bmi you just said of 19 (I’m not, I was aiming for 22) then there is nowhere to go in adult clothes

yanbu
however I don't care so much about the vanity aspect as for the inconsistency.

So your point just fell flat on its face. That's why you can get children's clothes on. I couldn't wear an age eleven dress.It would be too short.

Very very short 😆

You must also be quite short too. Because if I had your weight, my bmi would be 19.

No wonder you're getting into children's clothes. Light and also you're not tall. I don't think this is the issue you think it is.

As somebody else said, this is just a stealth boasting thread.Oh, look at me, I m only eight stone and I have to wear such tiny clothes. If you are 8 stone, you should be in tiny clothes. That's pretty light. This is women coming on here and saying they re great, big and fat and wearing a six.It's just nonsense.

If you're only eight stone, then I ll suggest a six is pretty bang on.

If I went down to 8 stone I think I probably be borderline in a six.

Bmi is absolute rubbish anyway, look at the history behind it. You don't need to diet to get to a healthier lower bmi.

My bmi is 23, bang in the middle of the healthy weight range (8 stone or 50kg). I’m wearing size 6 in everything. So what do slimmer/slighter/skinnier people wear? There’s nothing below a 6 on the high street.

I’m also wearing age 11 children’s clothes, do I just keep going down those ages if I was to try to drop to an even healthier BMI of 22?

I think sizing needs to be standardised, particularly as everything is being pushed online. Don't care what the size is, just make it the same.

I'm seeing a lot of "of course size 8/6 women don't have cellulite".
Erm, yes we do. Most adult women have cellulite, and you can still have a curvy bum and thighs as a size 8 (especially if you're petite in stature).

Quite.

My daughter would be obese at 10 and a half stone.

They might be. My daughter is a size 6 and she has quite a bit of cellulite. I was the same at her age.

Maybe slimmer women notice it more because they know they're not that small and having to buy even smaller clothes feels ridiculous.

Or, as I said, knowing I'm 2 stone heavier, but still wearing the same size clothes I did as I did at 20.

And whilst, no, it doesnt matter in a 'worth of the person' sense, it clearly does matter to quite a lot to some women or slimmer women would be able to talk about things that bother them without other women making snidey comments.

Also love how any thread about weight descends into insisting that anyone who is a 6-8 must have an eating disorder. I don’t, I’m just petite.

This is a sample size of 1 - you also don’t say how tall your friend is. I’m this weight and 5’6 and next clothes are the worst culprit their 6 is not small enough for me so I don’t shop there

I've always been a size 10 and am sick of buying size 8's online and then having to return them because they're so bloody massive!

I AM a size 10 in old money, and don't need to kid myself that I'm a size 6, which I wasn't even as a young teenager with no hips!

These threads are a thinly-disguised opportunity to show off about what a small size you are.

Nobody is shoving a “cellulite-ridden arse” into a size 6. If you wear a size 6, you are small.

As if it fucking matters 🙄

It contributes to climate change.

Not for adults they aren't!

Children's sizes are by height but adult women and men's sizes are numbers not measurements everywhere in the EU including Germany and have been for decades. Jeans by waist and leg measurement are an exception as in the UK.

EU 38 is a UK10/12 for example. To be confusing Italy and France use the same numbers but slightly differently (EU 38 is roughly Italian and French 40).

Yes. I agree. The number itself is so important to them that they feel the need to ‘stop’ anything that might interfere with number recognition.

God there are some mean-minded people here!