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Childless houseguests-AIBU to keep my child quiet and out of the way?

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StressedHost · 10/07/2025 09:11

If you have houseguests without children, that like to have sleep-ins and a quiet house, long meals etc., do you minimize all disruption caused by you child (ren) and adapt your schedule to those of the guests? Or do you go on with your life as usual?
I don't know what is the right thing to do and had a fight with DH over it. Essentially, I think it is basic kindness towards the guests to not disturb their sleep and quiet, and I'm aware that children of other people can be quite annoying, especially if you are childless and not used to the noise levels etc. DH thinks we owe them nothing, since they invited themselves and were aware that they were going to stay in a household with a young child.

For context, the guests are neither friends nor family. It is a former colleague that I know quite well, but am not particularly friends with, and her boyfriend, whom we had never met before he came to stay at our house. They sort of invited themselves for a few long weekends over the summer, because we live in a quite touristy, but expensive city. They are here to do sightseeing/going to events in our city, not to spend time with us. They stay for free obviously, but buy some of their groceries (special things they need due to intolerances).

We have a spare room/office, but our flat is quite small. And unfortunately the spare room is right beside the kitchen/living area, so they could certainly hear us getting up at the crack of dawn with our DC. DC is a typical 6YO, not particularly badly behaved, but will talk loudly, jump or run. DC is also awake latest at 6:30 am.
We have the first weekend behind us, and it was stressful. Especially keeping DC quiet from 6 am until 10 am (when the guests finally decided to get up) was hard. I tried to play as quietly as possible with DC in their room while feeding them only cookies for breakfast, to avoid noise in the kitchen (had no coffee myself as well until 10 am, because of our noisy coffee maker).
The guests are otherwise quite nice people-clean, tidy and did not complain about DC or the noise so far.

YANBU=Yes, it is basic kindness to keep your DC quiet. You agreed to the visits, so you have to do your best to keep the guests comfortable.

YABU=They invited themselves and were aware of the DC before coming, go on with your life as normal.

We will not agree to further visits by this couple (beyond the ones that are already planned), and probably stick with inviting only close friends or family until DC is older. So it is a lesson learned.

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SpryCat · 10/07/2025 12:49

I would tell her, you agreed to letting her stay for a couple of nights but you and H felt uncomfortable with an unknown male staying and it was too much of a strain keeping your child quiet. That you and H feel you can’t extend your hospitality for any future requests.

BrickSnail · 10/07/2025 12:49

I clocked you are being unreasonable purely on the basis that you letting them stay is unreasonable when one is a former colleague and you don't know the partner. That's bonkers

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carmak · 10/07/2025 12:48

You need to let them have the full child experience, in fact up it a bit, send the little one in to visit them nice and early with a musical instrument.

They might decide to cancel future visits. Fingers crossed.

Balloonhearts · 10/07/2025 12:48

I'd keep any running around, jumping and shouting to a minimum until probably 8am ish. Other than that, no. Life as normal would continue.

Namechangerage · 10/07/2025 12:46

StressedHost · 10/07/2025 12:27

No they just looked at me expecting to take DC away when they were playing a bit too loudly. Due to very different dinnertimes (we like to eat early together with DC), they were still eating while DC was playing in the living area after dinner.
The second evening we just took DC to the playground after we had finished eating. DC was happy to go out in the evening and have slightly later bedtime (we normally don't do this), and they were able to enjoy their meal in peace

Well more fool you. Want to stay in my house? You need to fit in with our lives.

Yes be considerate at like 6am but this just sounds bonkers. But are you absolutely sure they were actually looking at you that way or were you just projecting your discomfort on to them?

outerspacepotato · 10/07/2025 12:45

You're not a parental figure to them.

You're the pushover who provides them free lodging at the expense of your resentful husband and your poor son who can't even get a decent breakfast and is punished by having to stay out of the common area

You aren't single. This isn't just your house. You brought in an adult male who is a complete stranger into your child's home.

Why are you treating a rude coworker and a stranger better than you own family?

JoshLymanSwagger · 10/07/2025 12:45

It's wonderful that our DC has suddenly developed an interest in music...his rendition of "Londons Burning" on the recorder at 3am really is something special. We can still host, but you might need earplugs...
^Try this. 😉

tinyspiny · 10/07/2025 12:44

I’d just cancel the further visits , tell them that you’ve had to take in a family member so won’t be able to have them now if you don’t want to be honest .

Stilllifes · 10/07/2025 12:43

She's a CF and she has the measure of you, a total doormat.

For goodness sake text her that something has come up and it no longer suits you.

Your poor family.

IridiumSky · 10/07/2025 12:42

Pipsquiggle · 10/07/2025 10:45

FFS @StressedHost this is the very definition of taking the piss.

You tell them what works for you.

You say:
We will be up in the morning from 6am as that's when DC gets up.
We live in a small flat, you can stay for a maximum of 1 night.
We live in a small flat, 2 extra people really affected our daily lives, please find other accommodation

If you can't do the above, tell us what you would like to happen.

Someone on here will be able to craft a diplomatically correct message for you to copy & send - Mumsnet is great for that.

Here you are:

Dear [acquaintance],

Your request to stay further nights at our house is noted.

Having consulted with my husband, and carefully considered the matter, I refer you to the response given in Arkell v. Pressdram.

Yours sincerely,
…

Is that ‘diplomatic’ enough?

DaisyChain505 · 10/07/2025 12:42

StressedHost · 10/07/2025 12:27

No they just looked at me expecting to take DC away when they were playing a bit too loudly. Due to very different dinnertimes (we like to eat early together with DC), they were still eating while DC was playing in the living area after dinner.
The second evening we just took DC to the playground after we had finished eating. DC was happy to go out in the evening and have slightly later bedtime (we normally don't do this), and they were able to enjoy their meal in peace

This is absolute madness.

Someone ask if they could stay at your home free of charge, then they bought along another guest that you’d never met before and then you’re hurrying out of your home with your children to give them peace!

yelladuster · 10/07/2025 12:41

I don't have kids, if I am visiting friends or family with kids I wouldn't expect them to hide away or silence their kids. Just let things be how they normally are!

Alondra · 10/07/2025 12:41

StressedHost · 10/07/2025 12:18

I think this nails it. I feel kind of like a parental figure for her in some ways...I trained her on some aspects of our job at my old org. Also I know that they being still junior at work are much less better off than me, and would probably not have the money to just go to a hotel in our expensive city.
Also, the last time, the BF had already booked his train ticket when his visit was announced, so I felt I could not say no anymore.
I also try to be understanding in the sense that in your 20s, you are probably not aware that young kids wake early, have dinner early and can be noisy. So probably they thought they really like kids and are "morning people" (I guess getting up at 10 am could qualify you as a "morning person" in your 20s?).
They also never directly told DC anything, they just looked at me with this expectant look that I make DC be quiet when he was too noisy during their meals.

Why would you feel like a parental figure to an adult ex colleague, while not giving enough importance to your own DH and small child living at home?

You seem too focussed on pleasing how your colleague is going to feel instead how your DH and child are going affected by trying to keep them quiet. They invited themselves to your home, you don't even know the boyfriend ...but somehow you feel like a parental figure. Seriously?

You seem more invested how you are perceived by other people than the needs of your family. Your personal boundaries are off.

TwiceForLunch · 10/07/2025 12:40

I really understand you OP.

I live in a very popular tourist town that has a number of popular festivals over the summer. We have had people use us as a base (under the guise of 'wanting to catch up') for nigh on 20 years. Just short- 18 years because in 2023 I finally put my foot down. I got so bloody sick of freeloaders and chancers and people who we never heard from until about April when they rang up to say 'hi' and happened to mention before ringing off they'd be down our way.

i put up with it for years- because they were DH's 'friends' and because i moved into his house. I would give up precious annual leave for these festivals that I wanted to attend and found myself playing hostess.

Last year was the worst year. We had 16 visitors over the course of 4 weeks. Only one set took us out for a meal. Only one other set gave us a hostess gift of a bottle of wine and then drank it themselves. I said enough.

This is what I have said to the requests this year.... ;

'Oh how lovely you will be down our way. Let us know a day you have free and we will meet you in town for lunch'.

'Oh, so sorry, pity you can't stay as you have just asked me - but i CAN point you in the direction of a couple of decent B &Bs but you better book quickly!'

'Sorry, we are not hosting guests this year'.

And my favourite for one who was particularly reluctant to take a polite 'no' as an answer; 'Frankly. we got sick of people taking the piss so we don't have ANYONE to stay anymore at all as a blanket policy'.

It's joyful. I have so far employed each of the above. I have a particularly hard case that keep 'suggesting' and putting feelers out and who has been told NO but I expect she think she will wear me down. She won't. She's a selfish freeloading guest anyway and we learned the hard way the last time.

For you, you could say ; 'Sorry, the flat is too small for guests but if you look on tripadvisor you can probably find something'.

I know you have 'agreed' to 4 days at the end of the month and you might need DH's acquiescence to get through that, but if you are able to please consider saying 'No, it was too disruptive last time and i know you found it difficult because ... [insert reason]... '.

But nip it in the bud. Otherwise you will have your colleague's parents asking to stay sometime while they see the sights. (We have actually had this...)

JoshLymanSwagger · 10/07/2025 12:39

@StressedHost Next visits?
Tell them it didn't work for you. Your DC didn't sleep/settle well.
You are not friends with these people. Stop it - your DC, OH and you are more important than their visit.
They can book a hotel if they want, or stay at home.

DH and I don't have kids, and wouldn't dream of imposing on someone else - with or without DC.
We'd book a hotel.

JaneEyre40 · 10/07/2025 12:38

WTA??? What's the upside for you for having them stay? They invited themselves!?! Again....WTAF?

afaloren · 10/07/2025 12:36

Just had a memory of when my niece and nephew were small. We used to sleep on a sofa bed downstairs. They would come down at some ungodly hour while their parents were still asleep, crawl under it and pummel us from the bottom laughing hysterically 😂 They’re grown up now but it’s a great memory that they still talk about.

theemmadilemma · 10/07/2025 12:35

Childfree here.

Since they aren't good friends, I'd continue as normal if I was you.
If you were my close mate, I'd love you if you let me have a bit of lie in, but otherwise would expect your family life to continue as normal, not a quiet house just for me.

Frozensun · 10/07/2025 12:35

StressedHost · 10/07/2025 12:27

No they just looked at me expecting to take DC away when they were playing a bit too loudly. Due to very different dinnertimes (we like to eat early together with DC), they were still eating while DC was playing in the living area after dinner.
The second evening we just took DC to the playground after we had finished eating. DC was happy to go out in the evening and have slightly later bedtime (we normally don't do this), and they were able to enjoy their meal in peace

Did you drop a little curtsey as you relegated the child to the far corner of the flat? For heavens sake, let them ‘look’ all they want and simply ignore them. This has to be one of the silliest situations. If you think of yourself as her mentor, you should have some confidence. It’s your home and your family home. They don’t like it, there’s plenty of hotels.

noidea69 · 10/07/2025 12:35

EggnogNoggin · 10/07/2025 09:32

He should have said no then. I doubt OP overruled him and fought for this.

oh come on, i know we like to blame husbands/dads for everything her, but the OP has got herself (and her family) in this situation.

And if he had said "no" it would be seen as controlling wouldnt it?

MounjaroMounjaro · 10/07/2025 12:35

You are letting them impose on you, change your schedule and tiptoe around them. Why would you do that? You don't owe her anything at all. It's your child's home and he has the right to enjoy living in it.

Wishimaywishimight · 10/07/2025 12:34

"A parental figure"?? Don't be daft OP, you are a work colleague who provided her with some training in a professional capacity. In no way whatsoever are you a parental figure. Stop trying to rationalise this completely ridiculous scenario that you have inflicted upon your family.

afaloren · 10/07/2025 12:33

I don’t have children and when I stay with friends who do I expect to be woken up! Same if they stay in my house. My 4yo godson wakes up very early and is a very full-on little boy but I want to spend time with him so I go with his schedule. If that means sitting bleary-eyed with my cup of tea while he repeatedly puts out the ‘fire’ in my mug with his paw patrol fire engine then so be it!

jolies1 · 10/07/2025 12:33

Personally I would be encouraging the kids to play as noisily as possible so next time they book an Airbnb!