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Is this a crazy way to live or am I just jealous?

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Nurseamy87 · 09/07/2025 18:14

My SIL (older brother’s wife) is in her early 40s and does not have a job. She describes herself - on her Facebook bio 🙄 - as a “full time dog mum” . She is also a mature student who studies from home.

She and my brother have no children, yet inexplicably own a 3 bedroom house. Of the two spare rooms, one is my brother’s ‘office’ as he WFH full-time. My SIL has the other spare room for a desk where she studies, as well as room in there for her hobby (a craft). Everything is set up lovely for her. She Also has time to keep their house so nice. She used to work, until the pandemic, but claims to have a health issue and she had wanted to study but hadn’t previously had the opportunity to so decided to go for it. She is vague about what kind of career, if any, this studying will lead to.

I have spoken to my brother privately about this craziness, and he genuinely seems happy with this arrangement, saying that he loves her and is supportive. They are lucky he is in a decent profession and can support them both. They have never expressed any desire for children, of course we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, but they do both seem to have a happy and peaceful life.

I however am stuck as an NHS slave (Great patients, awful management). Myself and DH had a dog who we lost suddenly earlier this year, we hope to have another “one day”. Being a full time dog mum sounds SO stupid, why can’t she do what the rest of us have to, send the dog to a dog sitter and go out to work!! Nor is it realistic for most 40 somethings to have a spare room to cater to their studies and hobbies! All DH and I have is our main bedroom and tiny box room which is rammed full of junk… that’s the real world right??!

I don’t know how my brother tolerates my SIL’s weird doggy mum / student life! She needs to get in the real world. Crazy thing is my brother worships the ground she walks on and does not ever seem to be telling her she needs to get a job like the rest of us have to.

OP posts:
U53rn8m3ch8ng3 · 10/07/2025 07:14

Op, you're jealous and bitter. Not a nice look.
Giving mean girl vibes too.

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Seventree · 10/07/2025 07:13

Why does she need to suffer just because you're unhappy?

It sounds like they can afford her lifestyle and are both happy with the arrangement. Your (jealous) thoughts on what she 'should' be doing are irrelevant. It has nothing to do with you.

Confabulations · 10/07/2025 07:13

vegetarianlouise · 09/07/2025 23:51

If the roles were inverted and this woman was a man "studying and doing his craft" while the wife worked her bu-tt in a high paying job he would have been labelled as a cocklodger in 2 posts out of 3, but because she's a woman everybody gets to congratulate her as someone living her best life and the OP being jealous (which she is 😀)

The double standards on Mumsnet..😂

Edited

If the brother was here complaining about it, yes. He appears happy with the set up. Someone only becomes a cocklodger when the person they live with is unhappy. OP also says her SIL keeps the house nice, so she isn't expecting the brother to do it all while she does nothing.
There is no double standard here, just jealousy.

Thisismetooaswell · 10/07/2025 07:08

You are SO jealous. I don't see it as 'inexplicable' to own a 3 bedroom house with no children. Why are you so concerned about what your SIL is doing?

Justwaits · 10/07/2025 06:37

sunights · 10/07/2025 06:33

This thread is fascinating... the sheer volume of mumsnetters who have no idea how to check their privilege 🙄

Huh

sunights · 10/07/2025 06:33

This thread is fascinating... the sheer volume of mumsnetters who have no idea how to check their privilege 🙄

sunights · 10/07/2025 06:31

@mumtobabyhavoc- jugey much?
I was saying I just unfollow them!

Superhansrantowindsor · 10/07/2025 06:19

Sounds absolutely wonderful and you are just jealous. Envy is the thief of joy.

657904I · 10/07/2025 06:12

You called yourself a NHS Slave? Christ. I think people who work for the NHS sometimes have abnormal views on work/lax boundaries. It’s not normal to consider yourself a slave to any employer - but for some reason NHS staff tend to see themselves as martyrs, or tend to think gruelling work conditions are just what everyone should expect/endure. Newsflash - it’s not. Your choice to work for a shitty employer isn’t mandatory and you’re not special as a result. You sacrificed higher income careers, for a poor work/life balance and ended up with a mediocre lifestyle in return. That’s all on you.

Personally I’m super ambitious, ended up on a high income & used that to build up some savings. I recently took some time off work for a few months. It’s been cathartic being able to travel, relax, engage with hobbies and simply not work. I have really been able to reconnect with myself outside of being a salaryperson. I don’t really see why that is anyone else’s business or something that people would judge me for. I’m not living off the state lol. I have been able to do some home renovations, set up space for hobbies etc. It’s not a given that grown adults can only have a shitty junk filled box room or whatever you were going on about. If you don’t like your life, just change it.

Oodlesof · 10/07/2025 05:51

This is pure jealousy, fueled hatred and it will eat away at you.

VenusSlyTrap · 10/07/2025 05:50

Does she know you’re posting about her like this on a public forum?

VenusSlyTrap · 10/07/2025 05:47

Eh? Nothing odd about that. Don’t tell me you didn’t know that other people have different incomes, homes, domestic arrangements, than you? You sound very jealous.

Our lifestyle is similar, but different. I work full-time. My husband gave up work at 52 to be a full-time house husband. We also have three dogs so I guess he’s a full-time dog dad as well (although that term had be er occurred to me). I have an office at home because I WFH full-time. The company I work for is over 3000 miles away and that’s too far to commute.

We have no children but have 4 bedrooms (not including the office but the office wouldn’t work as a bedroom as it has a glass door). One bedroom is for my hobbies. One bedroom is our bedroom and the other two are for guests. My husband has a separate studio for his art stuff.

Some of us earn more. That’s all there is to it.

KPPlumbing · 10/07/2025 05:40

KPPlumbing · 10/07/2025 05:37

Nor is it realistic for most 40 somethings to have a spare room to cater to their studies and hobbies!

We've got 4 big double bedrooms between 2 of us, and will do forever (never wanted kids, now in our 40s).

We have a room each for work and hobby stuff. It's fantastic!

Oh and I just dropped down to a 4 day week to give me more time for leisure!

Sounds like you need to reevaluate your lifestyle OP, as you clearly aren't happy.

KPPlumbing · 10/07/2025 05:37

Nor is it realistic for most 40 somethings to have a spare room to cater to their studies and hobbies!

We've got 4 big double bedrooms between 2 of us, and will do forever (never wanted kids, now in our 40s).

We have a room each for work and hobby stuff. It's fantastic!

dottiedodah · 10/07/2025 05:25

Well it sounds like she's won the lottery really doesn't it?in reality though. She isn't earning and is at home a lot .lucky doggy though no being home alone or waiting for a walk.look you Don know if she did want DC at any point. Most women do and she may have issues which she has pured onto being a "doggy mum" you sound envious.

TheRoundTable1983 · 10/07/2025 05:14

You’re jealous.

MuckFusk · 10/07/2025 04:18

ClairDeLaLune · 10/07/2025 00:29

claims to have a health issue

OP you are not just jealous but are proper nasty with it. What a bitchy thing to say. Rein it in or your DB will be going NC with you, and who would blame him. Inexplicably have a 3 bedroom house? Shock horror, how dare they have a house that suits them and they can afford??

Yeah, that one bothered me as well. It's vile to imply that somebody is lying about a health issue.

Londog · 10/07/2025 03:43

Victim 🎻

Travelfairy · 10/07/2025 03:38

She sounds a bit spoilt and probably self absorbed but you do sound jealous. Not really your business how they live tbh

Pinkcountrybumpkin · 10/07/2025 02:41

My husband and I had a 3 bed as our first house when it was just the 2 of us, and bought a 4 bed when we had our son. Not sure it’s anyone’s business how we choose to spend our money. We need a spare double room for visitors (PILs come to stay regularly) and I need an office. 3 beds is hardly a mansion. My mum and step dad have 4 bedrooms and there is only 2 of them, my grandad in his 80’s has 4 beds to himself ! All bought and paid for so I don’t see it as a problem. Would have an issue if it was social housing with empty bedrooms but that’s a whole other thread!

Todayismyfavouriteday · 10/07/2025 02:18

She has a great life. She's lucky to have a beautiful, tidy home, her own space to study and work, and the pets she chooses to have. Why should she change a wonderful life? Would you like her to get a job and a few children so she feels as stressed as you do, and becomes less happy, so you can feel better about it all? You're so jealous of her it's pathetic you've even considered posting this.
Her world is real, and it's a great world.

pushthebuttonnn · 10/07/2025 02:12

vegetarianlouise · 09/07/2025 23:51

If the roles were inverted and this woman was a man "studying and doing his craft" while the wife worked her bu-tt in a high paying job he would have been labelled as a cocklodger in 2 posts out of 3, but because she's a woman everybody gets to congratulate her as someone living her best life and the OP being jealous (which she is 😀)

The double standards on Mumsnet..😂

Edited

Absolutely!! Crazy people here who chop and change 🤣 I think it's a strange set up and she seems lazy and unmotivated. I would be ridiculed by my ILs if dh kept me. Even with dc.

Trendyname · 10/07/2025 02:10

Op any chance you are from my culture? Because in-laws are very gutsy in my culture and have no boundaries. South Asia?

Trendyname · 10/07/2025 02:06

newyorker74 · 09/07/2025 18:42

Transfer some of your anger to me. Not only do I have a four bedroom, four bathroom house for just me and my partner (plus cat) but - SHOCK - we all have a second four bedroomed house in another location! So 8 bedrooms and no children at all.

8 rooms in New York? 🤩

Trendyname · 10/07/2025 01:59

You have spoken to your brother about their relationship and lifestyle? You are poking your nose in their business. If they are happy, why it bothers you? Seems like you wanted to cause an argument between them.

It’s obvious you are jealous as you go on talking about being an NHS slave.

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