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Is this a crazy way to live or am I just jealous?

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Nurseamy87 · 09/07/2025 18:14

My SIL (older brother’s wife) is in her early 40s and does not have a job. She describes herself - on her Facebook bio 🙄 - as a “full time dog mum” . She is also a mature student who studies from home.

She and my brother have no children, yet inexplicably own a 3 bedroom house. Of the two spare rooms, one is my brother’s ‘office’ as he WFH full-time. My SIL has the other spare room for a desk where she studies, as well as room in there for her hobby (a craft). Everything is set up lovely for her. She Also has time to keep their house so nice. She used to work, until the pandemic, but claims to have a health issue and she had wanted to study but hadn’t previously had the opportunity to so decided to go for it. She is vague about what kind of career, if any, this studying will lead to.

I have spoken to my brother privately about this craziness, and he genuinely seems happy with this arrangement, saying that he loves her and is supportive. They are lucky he is in a decent profession and can support them both. They have never expressed any desire for children, of course we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, but they do both seem to have a happy and peaceful life.

I however am stuck as an NHS slave (Great patients, awful management). Myself and DH had a dog who we lost suddenly earlier this year, we hope to have another “one day”. Being a full time dog mum sounds SO stupid, why can’t she do what the rest of us have to, send the dog to a dog sitter and go out to work!! Nor is it realistic for most 40 somethings to have a spare room to cater to their studies and hobbies! All DH and I have is our main bedroom and tiny box room which is rammed full of junk… that’s the real world right??!

I don’t know how my brother tolerates my SIL’s weird doggy mum / student life! She needs to get in the real world. Crazy thing is my brother worships the ground she walks on and does not ever seem to be telling her she needs to get a job like the rest of us have to.

OP posts:
newrubylane · 10/07/2025 12:24

I do have kids, but otherwise this is me. If they're financially secure and happy, why not. There's no law that says a person has to have a job if they don't need to.

Zezet · 10/07/2025 12:19

Yes, just jealous. I would be too!

KimberleyClark · 10/07/2025 12:18

ObelixtheGaul · 09/07/2025 18:28

If they can afford a three bedroomed house, why the hell shouldn't they have one? I don't get this idea that those of us without children apparently shouldn't enjoy having a bit of room.

My husband and I have two bedrooms and a box room that does count as a third bedroom in estate agent language but would only just get a small single bed in it.

I really don't understand what's inexplicable about it. We have a spare room for visitors and a hobby room. Why shouldn't we?

Why shouldn't your SIL and brother?

Or should everyone without kids live in one bedroomed flats?

We also have a 2 bed and a box room, wanted kids but they never materialised. Also I have my own office/sitting room/library in our converted garage. Why shouldn’t we?

ClearFruit · 10/07/2025 12:09

You sound jealous and envious and horrible. It's not hurting you how they live, grow up a bit.

CreationNat1on · 10/07/2025 12:03

SIL is currently one of life s passengers, that's fine because your brother is happy to fund her. Maybe this role swaps between the two of them over time. Who cares what they use their rooms for!!! Why are you monitoring?

I WFH I have an office downstairs. My sons have a games room upstairs. My house, I can use it anyway I want. Your brother s house is his own business, not yours.

Tidy your junk room out, put your energy into your own life, not watching other people s. Get therapy.

Ninja2 · 10/07/2025 12:00

IsItWickedNotToCare · 10/07/2025 11:58

She's just lucky, I understand why you would feel jealous but you can't force her into a miserable job and into having kids if she doesn't want them. Sorry!

The thing is, if she did have kids a load of MNers would tell her to get back to work ASAP so she’s not leeching off her husband/putting all of the financial burden on him/leaving herself financially vulnerable!

IsItWickedNotToCare · 10/07/2025 11:58

She's just lucky, I understand why you would feel jealous but you can't force her into a miserable job and into having kids if she doesn't want them. Sorry!

lalalalalady · 10/07/2025 11:56

Wow, you are seething with jealousy. How evil! You say you’ve spoken to you brother about this, I suggest you speak to your SIL about it too, just so she knows your true colours and what a horrible woman you are. I would be happy for my sibling! Get a hobby instead of sitting pondering over other people’s lives.

Mumble12 · 10/07/2025 11:56

Massively unreasonable. The two people who's lives are affected by SIL's choices are both fine with it, what gives you the right to even have an opinion on it, let alone express it to your brother!

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2025 11:54

It’s even more worrying that she’s found people to agree with her.

Serpentstooth · 10/07/2025 11:53

Speechless. It's quite worrying when you realise people like OP exist in the real world. I hope your brother and his wife move house, soon, and you can find someone else to seethe over. Seriously OP, you should seek advice.

despairofbadscience · 10/07/2025 11:53

Maybe your brother and his wife have found a balance that works for them. You could learn from this.

MakingPlans2025 · 10/07/2025 11:51

You sound jealous

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2025 11:50

pushthebuttonnn · 10/07/2025 11:33

Because she's a grown , married woman now who needs to grow up and get a job in the real world like everyone else! Sounds like she's wanting to stay a student forever..she sounds completely immature and child like.

She’s never been a student before. Why is it OK when you’re 18 and not when you’re older?

TreeDudette · 10/07/2025 11:48

I WFH full time and my DP is currently home studying a degree. He also looks after the house, the dog, sorts cars and appointments etc.. It suits us, we can afford it and it saves me trying to juggle my busy job and all the rest of life admin that I hate. He gets to do a degree without trying to squash it round a job. Everyone is a winner in my opinion!

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 10/07/2025 11:46

She's not taking your money or mine - so let her crack on!

Rh0dedenr0n · 10/07/2025 11:43

Nurseamy87 · 09/07/2025 18:14

My SIL (older brother’s wife) is in her early 40s and does not have a job. She describes herself - on her Facebook bio 🙄 - as a “full time dog mum” . She is also a mature student who studies from home.

She and my brother have no children, yet inexplicably own a 3 bedroom house. Of the two spare rooms, one is my brother’s ‘office’ as he WFH full-time. My SIL has the other spare room for a desk where she studies, as well as room in there for her hobby (a craft). Everything is set up lovely for her. She Also has time to keep their house so nice. She used to work, until the pandemic, but claims to have a health issue and she had wanted to study but hadn’t previously had the opportunity to so decided to go for it. She is vague about what kind of career, if any, this studying will lead to.

I have spoken to my brother privately about this craziness, and he genuinely seems happy with this arrangement, saying that he loves her and is supportive. They are lucky he is in a decent profession and can support them both. They have never expressed any desire for children, of course we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, but they do both seem to have a happy and peaceful life.

I however am stuck as an NHS slave (Great patients, awful management). Myself and DH had a dog who we lost suddenly earlier this year, we hope to have another “one day”. Being a full time dog mum sounds SO stupid, why can’t she do what the rest of us have to, send the dog to a dog sitter and go out to work!! Nor is it realistic for most 40 somethings to have a spare room to cater to their studies and hobbies! All DH and I have is our main bedroom and tiny box room which is rammed full of junk… that’s the real world right??!

I don’t know how my brother tolerates my SIL’s weird doggy mum / student life! She needs to get in the real world. Crazy thing is my brother worships the ground she walks on and does not ever seem to be telling her she needs to get a job like the rest of us have to.

They sound like they're living the dream. They're both happy. Youre jealous. Mind your own business

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 10/07/2025 11:43

It's not inexplicable. He's got a good job, they can afford it and they're happy with things this way. Jealousy is a totally understandable reaction!

QuesodeLuna · 10/07/2025 11:41

I don’t understand what this woman is supposed to have done wrong 😂 they can live where they like? It’s not a 10 bed mansion.. in a lot of 3 beds the third bedroom is often very small anyway.

It sounds like they have a lovely life

Sunnysideup999 · 10/07/2025 11:35

She should immediately live in a bed sit, give up her studying and go and work in Tesco.
you sound very jealous OP.
stop judging other people’s lives and examine your own insecurities.

pushthebuttonnn · 10/07/2025 11:33

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2025 11:31

She’s a student who is almost certainly in receipt of a student loan. Since when did being a student become such a huge cause for concern?

Because she's a grown , married woman now who needs to grow up and get a job in the real world like everyone else! Sounds like she's wanting to stay a student forever..she sounds completely immature and child like.

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2025 11:31

She’s a student who is almost certainly in receipt of a student loan. Since when did being a student become such a huge cause for concern?

Hankunamatata · 10/07/2025 11:28

She's a kept women basically.

Id worry about her ability to survive if her dh left her and what about her pension? She has put herself in a vulnerable position.

I do wonder if there is more to their health issue than they are letting on

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 10/07/2025 11:27

I have spoken to my brother privately about this craziness

Jeez, keep your beak out. 🙄 Get help for your clear jealousy issues as well, can't be good for you.

pushthebuttonnn · 10/07/2025 11:26

Ninja2 · 10/07/2025 11:22

I completely agree that their set up is entirely up to them and that it sounds great. However there’s a fairly stark difference on here to basically any thread with SAHMs, where they’re often told that they shouldn’t be letting a man keep them and they should get a job and contribute to the family finances, it’s not fair for the man to carry the financial burden etc.

Exactly ...what about the concerned posters who always tell the sahm's (even if they only want to stay at home an extra year) that they are losing out on precious pension contributions and will not be able to survive should their spouse leave. The mind boggles! Bunch of hypocrites..it's all okay to do once you don't have horrid dependant children!!

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