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To be wobbly about the relationship with grown dd?

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Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 14:33

Dd ,26, is very kind and empathetic when she wants to be and is in the mindset.l
I find the dynamic between us challenging .. aibu ?

Examples

she lives quite far away . Understandably when she visits she wants to cram in doing as much as possible with us .
This involves us at night time watching tv she likes and games - which dh and I do not like - but we do a couple and engage.
Then after a few rounds dh and I usually want to stop and do something else.. when we see her its “ oh you dont want to play games/ why dont t you like them and there is definitely a tension around it - as if we have to be seen to play games each visit as she brings them .

We have just been on holiday with her.
we had a fab time but also she told us that she felt she had to look after us , plan And that it was tiring.
She did not have to do that- but if she had noy booked taxis etc , we wd have done do - maybe to diff places and at a different pace .
i seem to remember going to the local market and cooking also so its not as if was doing nothing

It feels to us that if we do what she wants she is happy but if we step outside that she is easy to flip into irritation.

for eg when she visits - sometimes for a week , if I go upstairs to read for a while - it gets noted.
she says something like oh when zi come you go up to your retreat - cubby hole. ( a small bedroom i use to read)
when out ds comes he chills, goes to his room for a bit but when dd comes we feel ‘ monitored’ - an to be seen to be ‘lacking ‘
/judged - this has led to us feeling a little on edge when she comes which compounds the issue.
She seems to want us in her life but we feel we are a disappointment !

exa

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Krakinou · 09/07/2025 17:35

If she’s suggesting to work from (your) home, maybe that is her way to try and spend time with you in a more natural, less pressured way. You could meet her in the middle by having your alone time while she’s working and making a point of having a cup of tea with her and dinner.

If you don’t like games, plan something you do like but that’s still more intimate than a party at the neighbors. Film nights maybe?

It doesn’t sound like she expects you to pamper her. She just wants you to want to spend time with her.

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 17:28

musicalfrog True !
thanks .
It does seem that if I suggest something its a no tho - but worth a try x

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Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 17:27

Noshadelamp

that does resonate - she was most offended when dh didnt ring her to say happy holiday before we went.
He set a chat up for us all tho . But the no call was an issue for her.
I think that we are very social yet homly people and she wants to know she is still important- its the methodology used
!
Ive tried to give super super attention - it never seems to be enough and I feel a disappointment!

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musicalfrog · 09/07/2025 17:22

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:40

musicalfrog Live rurally - one shop! X

You could make a trip of it though! It would take a day or two out of her stay, of you having some quality time, when you can actually focus on each other without distractions. It might scratch that itch of hers and you might end up with a lovely new wardrobe!

Jaxhog · 09/07/2025 17:22

She sounds neither kind or empathetic - just rather selfish.

Noshadelamp · 09/07/2025 17:22

Sounds like she wants reassurance you want her there and miss her. The way she monitors what you're doing and then reads something into it.
My DD was like this coming home from uni. She would feel hurt when she was making an effort with planned activities (like your dd's games) and if we wanted a break or to do our own thing she felt like we didn't want her there.

I think your DD is probably sensitive and wants to feel part of the family still.

Would it hurt to play games for the few nights she's there? Or can you suggest a different activity you all want to do together?

I think you've underestimated how important you are to your dd.

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 17:16

Krakinou

Interesting!
She does say that we treat ds like the baby not her.
Yes she seems almost desperate to have a ‘ good time’
I dont know if she knows that we are more relaxed around ds as things just flow… but we have never said anything or compared.
she often tells us to chill and not be tense - especially when we try to explain we want a choice at times and will have seen ds just going with the flow maybe
It feels self fulfilling in a way as we are now not as relaxed around her .

yes , she comes home to be pampered I totally get that - but I wdnt dream of questioning my parents about not doing things- if be happy just to know they were around. If they wanted to nip out if be happy also .
I guess i am a flowy person , not one that has to have a plan in place .
I want her to feel better- she obviously is stressed- and us .

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Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 17:08

fridaynightbeers

I understand !

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Krakinou · 09/07/2025 17:05

It doesn’t sound like you like her much at all, or her boyfriend. I wonder if you have a pattern of ridiculing her or belittling her in the family (compared to the superior DS), and that’s making her feel more unwanted and under pressure to be fun or interesting to be with, hence the games and xmas dinner suggestions. Then you reject her for that and she becomes even more desperate and it’s a vicious circle.

How far away does she live and how often can she visit? Do you and DH ever visit her?

BabyCatFace · 09/07/2025 17:05

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:56

BabyCatFace
Yes - agree but unsure how to verbalise the fact its too long . She would be hugely hurt if said .

she rang today to say what week in aug are we free as she wants to come and wfh . ….

She wants to come and work from your house?! What's wrong with her house?
Tell her that you've started a new hobby/job/volunteering or something and you won't have a whole week available. Tell her you'd rather see her for a weekend when she's not working so you can spend proper time. You have lives of your own - it's very presumptuous to assume you can or would want to put them on hold for a week to entertain her!

Shinyandnew1 · 09/07/2025 16:59

when we see her its “ oh you dont want to play games/ why dont t you like them

Have you never said, 'I don't really like playing board games'?! That a perfectly valid thing to say!

It sounds like it's her way or no way which sounds like bloody hard work!

TomatoSandwiches · 09/07/2025 16:58

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:56

BabyCatFace
Yes - agree but unsure how to verbalise the fact its too long . She would be hugely hurt if said .

she rang today to say what week in aug are we free as she wants to come and wfh . ….

Ask her why she wants to come because from your pov she doesn't seem to enjoy her visits at all.

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:56

BabyCatFace
Yes - agree but unsure how to verbalise the fact its too long . She would be hugely hurt if said .

she rang today to say what week in aug are we free as she wants to come and wfh . ….

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JWR · 09/07/2025 16:55

So I have a 24 year old DD who has lived away from home since age 18 and see it a bit differently. How often does she come back? If it’s every few months I think it’s a bit off to expect her to be thrilled about hanging out with your new friends or being dropped for people you see regularly. Our pattern sounds very different as we see Dd probably once a month but in her home city, occasionally spending the night at her and her boyfriend’s flat. DD comes home probably three times a year at most and freely acknowledges she is coming home for some fuss and time with us. So that’s what we do. Her friends have similarly moved away-many to the city she lives in-so there’s not really anybody for her to catch up with. I don’t think that’s odd at all in 20s.

fridaynightbeers · 09/07/2025 16:49

I could’ve written this thread apart from the board games!

My dd is similar, lives away and when she comes for the weekend wants to be entertained 24/7. Every day it’s “what are we up to today?” and if I want to switch off for a while/read a book she won’t be happy. I get comments like “I haven’t seen you for weeks, why don’t you want to spend quality time with me?” etc.

I don’t know what the answer is - I do enjoy spending time with her but I like to have a bit of breathing space as well! If she suggests anything and we don’t immediately show enthusiasm we get huffing and puffing.

I often feel like we are a disappointment and that she finds us boring, and like you say it makes me feel on edge when she comes which doesn’t help!

BabyCatFace · 09/07/2025 16:49

A week visit is too long. She's an adult now and you have your own independent lives without her so she should visit the way she would visit other adults - a long weekend maybe but ideally 3 nights maximum. A week, where she expects to take over and be main child in the house and also complains about organising you is just too much.

TomatoSandwiches · 09/07/2025 16:49

I wouldnt enjoy someone like this visiting.... do you even enjoy her visits? Be honest with yourself because I don't see how this keeps working as you get older, she may end up taking over lots of aspects in your life.

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:48

ThinWomansBrain
re wanting to be entertained - less so as she had mates round or was out on her horse

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Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:46

ThinWomansBrain

we don’t live in home town
moved to rural location 5 yrs ago

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Alstromeria · 09/07/2025 16:44

she does try to be sweet such as leaves a little gift on my bed

Look up the cycle of abuse. This part is known as love bombing.

You need to open your eyes OP. You describe her as "empathetic" but then go on to describe someone who is:
Selfish
Rude
Derogatory to you/your husband/ friends
Expects to be the centre of attention at all times
Isolates you from your friends
Tells you what to do/wear and how to live your life
Gets cross at you going to work
Uses anger as punishment for not getting her own way
Uses the threat of anger and guilt-tripping as manipulation to get her own way
Has you feeling confused/upset/walking on eggshells etc.

Honestly OP, if you were married to her we'd all be telling you it's an abusive relationship and to LTB.

ThinWomansBrain · 09/07/2025 16:42

encourage shorter visits.

Assuming you're still living where she grew up, it's bizarre she doesn't have any friends to see.
Did she require "being entertained" when she lived with you?

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:40

musicalfrog Live rurally - one shop! X

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Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:39

Peclet We previously lived in very pc city… full of students and academics. We now live rurally- different vibe, politics in the main . Been here 5 years. When she comes she has little interest in mixing with local s due to us
knowing most folk - plus not here vibe

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musicalfrog · 09/07/2025 16:37

Why not let her take you clothes shopping? I love doing this with my mum, she tries things she wouldn't usually and is sometimes pleasantly surprised!

Eeehbaheck · 09/07/2025 16:36

Peclet Were we live now is not our home town .

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