To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

Statistically there are more intersex people than there are trans people. So yes a small minority but not as small as the trans community.

Some schools use them to incentivise by celebration of ‘transing’ kids - (extremely bizarre - they don’t ‘celebrate’ any other kids with a life changing condition that requires heavy duty medication and possibly surgery like cancer for example).

Some have reported that the special group of ‘trans’ kids are very difficult to deal with behaviour wise as they just complain of transphobia at any attempt to impose rules so they sometimes get left to it.

I imagine many schools are attempting to backtrack on this but at the height of Stonewalls influence in schools there were quite a few instances reported. There were also the secret Drag Queen appearances - deliberately hidden from parents - where children (adults) are conditioned into accepting ‘queer’ principles including gender ideology. It’s all ‘inclusive’ dontcha know.

What is an LGBTQ assembly? And why is it even a thing in schools, surely covering these topics in SPHE classes is enough without a whole assembly for the school, every month? An LGBTQ club to promote inclusivity, maybe, if the school runs other clubs... What do they even do at these assemblies?

you fool!

excuse you?

sex development starts with chromosomes but it isn’t in fact simply “determined “ by them at all- there are multiple other factors along the process - genes, the way the body produces and responds to hormones , etc.

Intersex is a small minority and a medical/genetic issue.

I strongly believe you're born a man or a woman and that's it

People born with a DSD are either male or female, not some arbitrary ‘other’.

That “multidimensional developmental process” is determined by one’s genetic makeup up you fool! 🤣

No what I’m disputing is that sex development can be reduced to chromosomes. It can’t. Sex is a multidimensional developmental process. This is a scientific/ biological reality.

There are bodies that are set up to produce small gametes (sperm) and bodies that are set up to produce large gametes (eggs).

There are no spergs or eggsps.

Sir Robert Winston - eminently and extensively qualified to comment on this (you do know his area of expertise?) has confirmed for the gullible or politically motivated that there are indeed only 2 sexes.

Oh bless you. I did read, research and reflect - that’s how I know the facts 😃

Maybe you could try it one day.

Btw, are you disputing that our chromosomes are in every cell of our body? Because that’s the starting point - everything else flows from that.

As we keep asking, what is the name of a third or fourth sex? What gamete are their bodies set up to produce?

Show me a established biologist who says that sex is not binary

And yet there are literally millions of articles, essay, writings by biologists (who you probably reject for a whole variety of reasons) who do not hold that belief.

That's got absolutely nothing to do with anything.

Sex IS binary. No genuine biologist disputes that.

Too logical. So many variants.

But of course, labelling it a disorder means binary-rules-ok. Just like homosexuality used to be a disorder.

No you wouldn't, because you know you're talking nonsense 😂😂😂

If I had more time and it was worth it I would respond to all this rubbish, but I don't and it's not. I encourage you to read, research and reflect.

Has anyone been ‘debating the merits of T as an ideology’? Your point paraphrases quite well and appears to agree with I’ve been saying short of taking the next step to look at the obvious source.

OPs son has clearly been listening at school, he has been told true stuff (LGB) by his school which they have then contradicted with false stuff (gender ideology) which a) directly undermines his understanding of LGB and b) causes him to lose faith in all they are telling him. Conversations with his mum appear not to have clarified anything.

I’d be interested to understand how some people on this thread are differentiating one homophobic line of thinking (paraphrasing Andrew Tate - gay attraction is ‘yuck’, lesbians are hot but the ‘right man’ could turn them, it’s not gay for a man to sleep with a man who identifies as a woman) with the gender ideology homophobia which starts with ‘it’s not gay for a man to sleep with another man as long as one identifies as a woman‘ and moves onto ‘lesbians are hot and just haven’t found the right man that identifies as a lesbian (or as they put it so delightfully ‘girlcock’).

It sounds like we should not only get the influence of misogynists like Andrew Tate away from kids but the ideology around TQ+ out of schools.

The fact is that sex is a multidimensional (developmental) variable

Is this the new ‘sex is a spectrum’ line that trans activists use? Still not true. We are either male or female, stop ‘othering’ people with DSDs and pretending they are not.

For the most part the different components that make up “sex” align into two distinct groups. There are people’s whose bodies combine components from different groups.

We are not Lego. Development abnormalities are just that, abnormalities. Some people’s hearts don’t develop properly, some people have chromosomal abnormalities that manifest in other symptoms. DSDs are just an abnormality in a particular area of development. There is a large range, some only become obvious at puberty when normal puberty for the sex doesn’t progress. All are either male specific abnormalities or female specific. They have inherited ‘components’ from the opposite sex.

These are scientific truths you can’t just cover them with rhetorical/linguistic refrains to make them disappear.

Eh? You are not presenting any scientific truths Tandora - you know this.

Chromosomes are our basic cell data. They are in every cell of our body. There are no ‘hormone components’ - our hormones are a result of our sex chromosomes determining what our pituitary and reproductive glands produce.

Therefore every cell in Imane Khelif’s body (to give a recent example) is XY. He is male with abnormal genitalia for a male. It is not female genitalia or a female reproductive system - he has internal testes. We are not built of ‘components’ in that sense.

People with DSDs have repeatedly asked that the trans activists stop trying to pretend they are an example of being both male and female. They are people with a rare medical condition which is being appropriated by trans activists to try and undermine the sex binary. Every one is either male or female and to claim otherwise is offensive, incorrect and othering for them.

It’s fascinating how you think (presumably) you are being kind but you are actively working to the detriment of women, children and people with a health affecting medical condition and in your pursuit of advantage for ‘trans’.

So how is it ‘factually incorrect’ to say that all humans are one of 2 sexes?

Even if, as you claim, a person had characteristics of both sexes, it doesn’t make them both sexes - it makes them their sex with abnormalities.

For example men like Caster Semenya and Imane Khelif have 46 XY 5-ARD. The media have finally admitted that they both have this condition and have lied extensively about their sex.

“5-alpha reductase deficiency is a condition that affects sexual development before birth and during puberty. People with this condition are genetically male, with one X and one Y chromosome each cell, and they have male gonads (tests)
Their bodies, however, do not produce enough of a hormone called dihydrotestosterone (DHT). DHT has a critical role in male sexual development, and a shortage of this hormone disrupts the formation of the external sex organs before birth
Many people with 5-alpha reductase deficiency have external genitalia that appears female. In other cases, affected infants have male-typical external genitalia, often an unusually small penis (micropenis) and the urethra opening on the underside of the penis (hypospadias). Still other affected infants have external genitalia do not look clearly male or clearly female.
During puberty, an increase in the levels of male sex hormones leads to the development of some secondary sex characteristics, such as increased muscle mass, deepening of the voice, development of pubic hair, and a growth spurt. The penis and scrotum (the sac of skin that holds the testes) may grow larger. People with 5-alpha reductase deficiency do not develop much facial or body hair. Most affected individuals are unable to have biological children (infertile) without assisted reproduction.
medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/5-alpha-reductase-deficiency/

You might want to read up on the actual medical facts around DSDs rather than the lies and propaganda spread by people who will exploit any group if they think it helps further embed the lies. You may be astounded at how much you’ve been lied to.

No Tandora. Let's go over this again.

Has the body evolved on a path to make small gametes (male).

Or large ones (female).

Thats the pertinent question

How you “categorise” things is social and scientific judgement and convention.

The fact is that sex is a multidimensional (developmental) variable .

For the most part the different components that make up “sex” align into two distinct groups. There are people’s whose bodies combine components from different groups.

These are scientific truths you can’t just cover them with rhetorical /
linguistic refrains to make them disappear.

DSDs do not make a new sex category.

A man with a penile hypospadia is still male. Having a differently developed sex organ doesn't mean one has changed sex.

I didn’t say they were a different sex. You said all humans are one of two sexes. Intersex people can have characteristics of both sexes. Either physically, hormonally or via chromosomes.

People who have differences of sexual development are not a third or fourth sex.

If you are going to use the term 'Factually incorrect' you might want to fact check your own comments.