To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

Joining the LGBT club can give access to a special group of friends, something to do at lunch time, definitely special attention from some teachers.

Do I think schools ever incentivise children into becoming trans? No I don't.

This is a ridiculous level of hysteria being whipped up. Teachers barely have enough time to teach. The idea of 'incentivising' children to turn trans is a dystopian fantasy. I honestly wonder what the hell is happening to the GC that believe this guff.

Regarding "nipping this in the bud" how would posters feel if they had a teen who genuinely espoused pro-life beliefs?

Everyine IS either male or female. A man with XY chromosomes and a DSD doesn’t have any cells with XX chromosomes- we don’t work like that.

The way to approach it is to encourage discussion and to ask lots of questions to get him thinking. No one ever changed their viewpoint from being told what to think. This has two effects. It encourages critical thinking, and it will give him the space to come to his own conclusions rather than being dictated to by either you or his dad or anyone else he comes across. It will also foster a healthy relationship between the two of you as he will feel like he can come to you with opinions and they will be heard and considered, not automatically shut down. It will also encourage him to listen to other people’s opinions without automatically shutting them down.

My DS has held some odd and sometimes controversial opinions over the years and I have always dealt with them (and any non controversial opinions too!) like this and he has come out the other side as a person with well considered opinions that is happy to hear others opinions and loves a good debate! We can spend hours discussing the issues of the day! He is open to hearing what other people have to say and is open to changing his opinion if he feels that someone has made a good argument for an alternative view/facts come to light that he wasn’t aware of.

Developing his own critical thinking skills is also what will defend him against the likes of Andrew Tate. You don’t want him brought up being “told” his opinion my you, his dad, or the school or anyone else.

You don’t follow the news very much do you?

Where did I say there is no such thing as ‘intersex’? People with DSDs have asked people like you to stop ‘othering’ them and making false claims about their medical condition. But here you are.

Your list of groups you are prepared to throw under the bus for ‘trans’ is growing.

Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-Tin are both males with DSDs who boxed against women so they are liars and cheats

Oh really . What about that poor boxer who was accused of being an abuser, liar and cheat because she had a DSD.

Nope it’s really offensive to say there is no such thing as intersex.

Are you denying this has ever happened?

Despite being utterly strapped for cash and unable to provide basic stationery, you be amazed at how many schools found the money to rip out perfectly good toilets and install mixed sex ones as demanded by Stonewall, or spend thousands on Stonewall membership, or paying other outside orgs to come and indoctrinate teach the children harmful nonsense under the guise of inclusion’. Hell, they even had a phase of inviting utterly inappropriate Drag Queens (some with an extremely questionable history relating to children) and all that lippy and sequins don’t come cheap.

I think it is you that is inexperienced about the capture of secondary education and the money that was made available for the ‘LGBTQ+’ crowd.

I’m not sure you actually know what a chromosome is.

Can you explain what a ‘multidimensional developmental process’ is and what determines its progress?

That is really offensive to people with those medical conditions you know. I followed several on social media and they hated people constantly telling them they were neither male nor female - do you know how awful a thing that is to say to someone? That they are ‘other’? Do you display the same total disrespect to other people with medical conditions?

And people with DSDs are precisely zero to do with ‘trans’, they are only linked because the trans lobby likes to use their existence be to wrongly claim that there aren’t two sexes.

Funny, we havent heard anything about people with DSD's raping or sexually assaulting women and girls in sex protected spaces, or filming themselves jerking in womens bathrooms, or threatening women, or assaulting women, or stalking women, or spitting at women, or treating womanhood like a costume for sexual gratification and access to the vulnerable.

Its almost as if tiny minorities arent the issue, but the behaviour of them is.

Statistically the number of trans identified people in the UK is similar to the number of Buddhists in the UK.

When was the last news report about a predatory Buddhist?

But that's also nonsense. Everyone can be classified as one sex or another.

There is broad consensus

this is factually false.

Again, I did not say that intersex people are in a new sex category. I said that intersex people can have characteristics of both sexes & therefore can’t always be easily classified as either male or female. I was responding to one individual comment that said that everyone is EITHER male or female, without mentioning the nuance that comes with intersex people. Perfectly happy to be disagreed with but it’s quite annoying when people respond with things that I have simply not said.

There is broad consensus .

Some people now also claim that PCOS is an intersex condition - is that an opinion we should listen to.

There's no consensus on that prevalence figure as you well know, it's one scientist's opinion in response to another who estimated the prevalence about 100 times higher.

DSD conditions affect approximately 0.018% of the population whereas 0.5% of the UK identified as trans in the UK at the last census so its the other way round

.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/

“Nobody should accept gay marriage is the same as traditional marriage, or that it's ok for gay men to use surrogates to have children, if that's against their beliefs.”

I beg your pardon. Gay marriage is no different to any other marriage and everybody needs to accept it in the same way everybody needs to accept that racism is wrong.

Right. Yet when it comes to trans people we’re supposed to believe that they’re such problem that they are destroying society as we known it. But when it comes to people with DSDs it’s all - oh it’s such a tiny and insignificant minority of people: nothing to see here!

Your son is correct, there are biologically 2 genders.

Lots of people don't support LGBTQ movement, it's good to be aware of what it is but nobody has to pretend men can turn into women and vice versa if they disagree.
Nobody should accept gay marriage is the same as traditional marriage, or that it's ok for gay men to use surrogates to have children, if that's against their beliefs.

'Some schools use them to incentivise by celebration of ‘transing’ kids - (extremely bizarre - they don’t ‘celebrate’ any other kids with a life changing condition that requires heavy duty medication and possibly surgery like cancer for example).'

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If you think schools have the time or the band width to do this, you're very inexperienced about secondary education and the pressures its under.

You can strongly believe that as much as you want. But it doesn’t make it fact. Whatever you think about trans people, intersex people exist outside of the sex/gender binary.