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To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

818 replies

Calmorchaos · 08/07/2025 19:31

I’m after some advice really on how to approach this.

I have always been the type of person to support anyone to be who they are. I’ve never shied away or shielded my children from the world - very much a ‘love is love’ person and always encouraged my children to support those who need it and be inclusive ( in terms of people being bullied , disabilities etc too ) .

My youngest is going into high school ( 11 ) . Over the past few months I’ve noticed a few comments such as “ there are 2 genders “ , “ I don’t support LGBTQ “ . I’ve addressed this in the moment . But recently he found out his new school has an LGBTQ assembly on a monthly basis and he has started saying he doesn’t want to go because “ he doesn’t support it” . I sat down and had a chat with him , I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice , i explained it as he could say he doesn’t agree with people eating meat as that is a choice he would be making , but someone’s sexuality is their feelings and not a choice.

I am sure comments will allow me to explain more how the conversation went from my side so I won’t drag this post on with that but his comments were unnerving :

  • he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
  • we can choose who we fall in love with
  • if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I know he is very young and he doesn’t understand and has things to learn. He is the sweetest boy and the way he said these things sounded scripted as though he has heard others say this . I know he is a child and it’s my job that guide him and that’s the advice I’m asking for , how do I address this? I’m not saying I need him to go around advocating I just don’t want these views becoming ingrained and he becomes the reason another student who is struggling, struggles more. I know I may be overreacting but this age and as the years go on is a time that he can be heavily influenced . He’s a quiet, sweet boy and I do believe he could be heavily influenced.

Another concerning thing is that when I asked him where he had heard all this and where it comes from he said his Dad .

OP posts:
Blurrywateryeye · 08/07/2025 23:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:26

I think there are some pretty fucking awful ideologue teachers, so that doesn’t rule that out for me @Blurrywateryeye

True. There’s something very off with this one though.

Noodledog · 08/07/2025 23:33

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:26

What do you want, a copy of my degree certificates and my enhanced DBS? What questions do you want me to answer?

You posting something with a degree of nuance and sense of proportion would be reassuring, tbh.

Blurrywateryeye · 08/07/2025 23:30

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:26

What do you want, a copy of my degree certificates and my enhanced DBS? What questions do you want me to answer?

Yeah, upload them please, so we can all see who the teacher is comparing convicted child murderers to a child who said that being gay was a choice.

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:29

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:26

I think there are some pretty fucking awful ideologue teachers, so that doesn’t rule that out for me @Blurrywateryeye

If I was going to invent a profession, it would be something more interesting than a high school teacher.

Okiedokie123 · 08/07/2025 23:28

Well he is totally correct on one aspect @Calmorchaos there are only 2 genders, 2 sexes. The rest is nonsense.
Two separate issues which shouldnt be bunched together but sadly have been as LGBQT/all the letters. The first three, most would agree are not a choice. The rest of it is a very different issue.

SALaw · 08/07/2025 23:27

RealEagle · 08/07/2025 21:13

So his dad has told him someone chooses to be gay,Think he needs putting straight on that one.

Wait a minute, SOME people do choose? There’s high profile later-life lesbians who have literally said as much (Cynthia Nixon, Mary Portas).

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:27

Blurrywateryeye · 08/07/2025 23:23

Why on earth are you bringing up child killers? It’s not relevant to the threads at all. No one is disputing the age of criminal responsibility. I do find it interesting you haven’t answered any of my questions. I highly doubt you have 1 GCSE never mind a teaching degree. It’s very obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about hence all your replies. But if you are an experienced teacher, which I highly doubt your replies are just embarrassing.

If you need any help with punctuation, ask a teacher.

Zoono · 08/07/2025 23:26

Calmorchaos · 08/07/2025 19:31

I’m after some advice really on how to approach this.

I have always been the type of person to support anyone to be who they are. I’ve never shied away or shielded my children from the world - very much a ‘love is love’ person and always encouraged my children to support those who need it and be inclusive ( in terms of people being bullied , disabilities etc too ) .

My youngest is going into high school ( 11 ) . Over the past few months I’ve noticed a few comments such as “ there are 2 genders “ , “ I don’t support LGBTQ “ . I’ve addressed this in the moment . But recently he found out his new school has an LGBTQ assembly on a monthly basis and he has started saying he doesn’t want to go because “ he doesn’t support it” . I sat down and had a chat with him , I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice , i explained it as he could say he doesn’t agree with people eating meat as that is a choice he would be making , but someone’s sexuality is their feelings and not a choice.

I am sure comments will allow me to explain more how the conversation went from my side so I won’t drag this post on with that but his comments were unnerving :

  • he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
  • we can choose who we fall in love with
  • if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I know he is very young and he doesn’t understand and has things to learn. He is the sweetest boy and the way he said these things sounded scripted as though he has heard others say this . I know he is a child and it’s my job that guide him and that’s the advice I’m asking for , how do I address this? I’m not saying I need him to go around advocating I just don’t want these views becoming ingrained and he becomes the reason another student who is struggling, struggles more. I know I may be overreacting but this age and as the years go on is a time that he can be heavily influenced . He’s a quiet, sweet boy and I do believe he could be heavily influenced.

Another concerning thing is that when I asked him where he had heard all this and where it comes from he said his Dad .

Your son is allowed to have these feelings but as a lot of people forget, if you have nothing kind to say, it's better not to say anything at all. When I was a teenager ( 15 ish years ago), rumours spread at school about my sexuality. I felt so scared incase anyone suspected, I was bi. When i eventually came out at 16, my best friends boyfriend mocked and threatened me. Your son is at a really impressionable age and what you say to him now about his views, will have a big impact.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:26

I think there are some pretty fucking awful ideologue teachers, so that doesn’t rule that out for me @Blurrywateryeye

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:26

Blurrywateryeye · 08/07/2025 23:23

Why on earth are you bringing up child killers? It’s not relevant to the threads at all. No one is disputing the age of criminal responsibility. I do find it interesting you haven’t answered any of my questions. I highly doubt you have 1 GCSE never mind a teaching degree. It’s very obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about hence all your replies. But if you are an experienced teacher, which I highly doubt your replies are just embarrassing.

What do you want, a copy of my degree certificates and my enhanced DBS? What questions do you want me to answer?

Thatsrhesummeroverthen · 08/07/2025 23:24

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:22

Yet.

Thought police

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:24

BundleBoogie · 08/07/2025 23:21

Are you suggesting a child’s brain is not still developing at 11? Your point about criminal responsibility is irrelevant as the child in question has not committed a crime.

I don’t make the laws. Homophobic comments are rightly sanctioned, just as racist and ableist comments are.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:23

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:21

It is a huge leap, but children get older every year and words become actions. Gay teenagers are traumatised every day by bullying. I think the OP is right to be concerned.

Oh give over.

Blurrywateryeye · 08/07/2025 23:23

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:13

You said that the brain of a child is developing at that age, but the fact remains that the age of criminal responsibility is 10.

Why on earth are you bringing up child killers? It’s not relevant to the threads at all. No one is disputing the age of criminal responsibility. I do find it interesting you haven’t answered any of my questions. I highly doubt you have 1 GCSE never mind a teaching degree. It’s very obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about hence all your replies. But if you are an experienced teacher, which I highly doubt your replies are just embarrassing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:22

Thatsrhesummeroverthen · 08/07/2025 23:20

Well yes, but they are being used as a comparator to the OP's ds for reasons I'm not entirely clear on!

I’m fairly clear on those reasons fwiw. Just a hunch.

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:22

BundleBoogie · 08/07/2025 23:21

Are you suggesting a child’s brain is not still developing at 11? Your point about criminal responsibility is irrelevant as the child in question has not committed a crime.

Yet.

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:21

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:17

This child has nothing to do with James Bulger’s killers. It’s a huge leap.

It is a huge leap, but children get older every year and words become actions. Gay teenagers are traumatised every day by bullying. I think the OP is right to be concerned.

BundleBoogie · 08/07/2025 23:21

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:19

I’m talking about the age of criminal responsibility in England, which is 10. I was responding to another poster who said that at the age of 11, a child’s brain is still developing.

Are you suggesting a child’s brain is not still developing at 11? Your point about criminal responsibility is irrelevant as the child in question has not committed a crime.

Thatsrhesummeroverthen · 08/07/2025 23:20

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:13

Sure. But they are totally irrelevant to this child.

Well yes, but they are being used as a comparator to the OP's ds for reasons I'm not entirely clear on!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:19

The OP’s child, as described, isn’t a criminal.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/07/2025 23:19

Yellowstickerstalker · 08/07/2025 23:11

you took the words right out of my mouth Tandora, so depressingly predictable. No need to enforce views on biological sex here, not relevant.

Well it is relevant when he mentioned ‘there are only two genders’, and is likely conflating this with sex, as gender is a made up concept. So entirely relevant (and not transphobic) when to be homosexual is same SEX attraction.

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 23:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:16

Why are you wittering on about murderers @OpheliaBlue exactly?

Edited

I’m talking about the age of criminal responsibility in England, which is 10. I was responding to another poster who said that at the age of 11, a child’s brain is still developing.

BundleBoogie · 08/07/2025 23:18

Yellowstickerstalker · 08/07/2025 23:11

you took the words right out of my mouth Tandora, so depressingly predictable. No need to enforce views on biological sex here, not relevant.

But OP has identity mixed in with sexuality and the two are totally incompatible concepts and if she continues with her stance on ‘identity’ it will undermine her discussions on sexuality because her DS knows that the first thing is not as she presents it.

Why is it ‘depressingly predictable’ that a thread where OP is worrying about homophobia needs to mention biological sex? How do you think same sex attraction works?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:17

This child has nothing to do with James Bulger’s killers. It’s a huge leap.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2025 23:16

Why are you wittering on about murderers @OpheliaBlue exactly?