To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

The really tedious thing is the constant refusal to recognise that the gender ideology (brought up in the OP)is the truly homophobic movement and if trusted adults undermine themselves by telling lies to children, we end up with confused children.
The intolerance from adults toward a young boy who now doesn’t know who he trusts to tell him the truth is astounding.
This and the gleeful pitchforks out against young dc.. especially the poster who was so pleased of the punishment administered to 11 year olds at her dc school... so don't attempt to understand why they think like that and educate them....PUNISHMENT!! As that's the best way to productively move on positively...🙄

This thread isn’t about men dressed as women but about the homophobic views quoted by the child in the op so enough already with yet another thread being turned in the oh so tedious trans debate.
OP said (Yesterday 20:11) "as I try to explain to him there are people who feel they are trapped in the wrong body". You should be cross with the OP, not us! How can she teach her DS about homosexuality / same-sex attraction if she believes in Gender Identity i.e. that sex is a changeable thing?

Nope 11 is plenty old enough to have some idea of your sexuality and all gay children have the right to go to school without being subjected to the homophobic views listed by the op from her child which she is quite rightly concerned about. Believing that being gay can be controlled is conversation therapy which is hugely damaging and not ok in any school. Those views are what she is concerned about and what this thread is about. They are not ok and no school will tolerate them.

But if you read the comments, it’s clear that

a) the boy is 11 and isn’t really ready for the in depth discussions on sexuality that are being pushed on him.
b) the boy is being given false information about people being ‘born in the wrong body’ by the same people who are trying (and failing) to explain sexuality.
c) he is therefore trying to sift through and work out what he believes and who he trusts while his friends is telling him he is gay which, given the age of the boys it’s unlikely that he actually knows for definite as he should not yet be sexually active.

The really tedious thing is the constant refusal to recognise that the gender ideology (brought up in the OP)is the truly homophobic movement and if trusted adults undermine themselves by telling lies to children, we end up with confused children.

The intolerance from adults toward a young boy who now doesn’t know who he trusts to tell him the truth is astounding.

Again, none of that is against the law. The law has nothing to say on whether those are the ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ views to hold.

This thread isn’t about men dressed as women but about the homophobic views quoted by the child in the op so enough already with yet another thread being turned in the oh so tedious trans debate.

• he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
• we can choose who we fall in love with
• if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I think you’ll find that the Supreme Court said exactly the opposite - that biological sex is more important than some woolly concept of ‘gender’.

There is so much confusion over this - the claim that ‘gender’ is more important than biological sex is the homophobic view.

If you say that people are attracted to a ’gender identity’ over biological sex, then you are denying that people are exclusively attracted to the same sex. That is homophobic.

If you say that a gay man would be attracted to a female who dresses and identifies as a man, that is homophobic.

OP, he's worried. I was worried at his age, back in the 1970s. Omg the homophobia that existed then was unbelievable. Anyone departing from the heterosexual norm was a 'poof' or a 'perv'. Gay people were lumped in with paedophiles. I distinctly remember looking up homosexuality in a medical book at the library, because, at 12, I was a bit gone on another boy. It said same-sex crushes were 'normal'. I was relieved, but I was 12 fgs.
As long as you stick to kindness, you won't go far wrong. I emerged from the worst imaginable sort of boys-school atmosphere, got a job where about half the workforce were gay - and great fun - and no way was any of the prejudice going to influence me against guys who became good mates. You sound like you're handling it well; you've raised a nice boy & with your continuing influence it's very unlikely he'll convert his uncertainty into anything awful.

I'd maybe say that when he starts to find some people attractive and others not at all attractive, he'll realise it's not entirely in our control, it's a physical as well as mental reaction that comes naturally to us and being gay comes naturally to some people. It's wrong to fake being hetero as that would cause real unhappiness to both people.
Remind him that bring gay foes no harm yo anyone. It's just a natural inclination.

The Heartstopper books are popular. Modern Family is a good light hearted show to watch if you wanted to normalise same sex families and have gentle discussions.

I think it’s an abusive slur for gay men that people have adopted to describe a sexual orientation and identity umbrella that doesn’t make much sense. I don’t need a clarification but thanks.

No idea if this will truly help but there are certain films/tv programmes you could watch with him (on top of talking to his dad and trying to address it in other ways!)
Off the top of my head, pride is a very emotional film, it's a sin, the imitation game..

An LGBT assembly once a month seems like a lot? Maybe there's a reason his school are doing this, like lots of pupils with this same attitude?

@AbzMoz 'ramblings after a lemsip' LMAO

No, queer theory is a way of disassociating normality and normalising alienation, and was invented by a paedophile child rapist.

Did you read the op?These are the comments concerning her.

• he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
• we can choose who we fall in love with
• if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

This thread is about homophobic views, give over trying to turn yet another thread into a trans debate. It’s tedious.

Give over. This thread is not about your son.
It's about Trans forcing other people to conform to their belief system.

Because they are the right views upheld by law in this country. If you don’t like them there are other places in the world that support homophobia.

My point in posting was to try to prevent my son having unkind views and expressing them and in the world we live in, despite your own opinions , I think we should be kind enough to not let our views have an impact on the mental health and well being of others . Just because you don’t believe in something doesn’t mean people need to hear your opinion on that - what harm does it do to just be supportive
But as ever, that goes only one way....
Your view seems to not be based in sex realism, and that it's gender over sex?
But yet you're happy to enforce your views and opinion on him?

@Calmorchaos
I think we should be kind enough to not let our views have an impact on the mental health and well being of others
That applies to everybody, right?
Just because you don’t believe in something doesn’t mean people need to hear your opinion on that - what harm does it do to just be supportive.
Why am I expected to support something that I don't believe in and that has a negative impact on my mental health, wellbeing and safety? Where is the reciprocal #BeKind?

@Ereshkigalangcleg I'm not sure what you think "queer" means, but to clarify it for you it doesn't necessarily mean trans. It means either not straight or not cis or both.

But by that same token, if your son is picking up the message that his feelings are potentially harmful, that they need to be reined in, that masculinity might be toxic, etc; only to then pick up the message that here are two other categories of men who don’t need to worry about that, and we’ll celebrate them being exactly who they want to be, etc – is it any wonder that he should get a bit resentful?

My understanding is that teenage boys are almost universally of the same mind as your son. I really don’t think you have anything to worry about.

He's 11. There are many years before that conversation would be of any use.

Which might be the clue that it's not particularly fruitful to pursue the issue at the age he is.

If being gay is a lifestyle choice then by that argument being straight is also a lifestyle choice so ask your son and partner when they choose to be straight and what prompted that choice

So he needs to be put on the tight track as he will encounter huge difficulties further up the school and within the workplace if he continues with such homophobic thoughts.