To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

So you said I literally was talking to my niece today about this boy she met at a school camp. She clearly fancied him and I asked her if he was her boyfriend and she responded “I would like him to be”.

and then you said

But this notion that children are completely unaware of their sexuality is false. I have known far more young children than not have crushes.

So presumably you have spoken to these ‘far more’ children to find out about these crushes, otherwise how would you know? So it sounds like you are speaking to other peoples <11 yr olds about their romantic (I’ll concede that ‘romantic’ is a more appropriate word than ‘sexual’ so I switched in later posts) relationships.

And I thought it all sounded a bit odd because even after bringing up several children we have had very few, if any, conversations around intentions of romantic relationships of the 11 yr olds, particularly the girls, because as I said, most women have sensible boundaries around not encouraging girls to think about romantic relationships when too young. Then I gave the example of the girl I’ve known for years who was encouraged into ‘dating’ at an inappropriately young age by her mother and then she got pregnant at 15.

Where is the hyperbole? Maybe it sounds hyperbolic because you do actually know what appropriate boundaries are but temporarily forgot them?

I assume she means “homophobic taunting”.

Yes at 11. Within the context of a discussion. But as I sound it sounds inappropriate to you because your mind weirdly went to “sexual relationship” which says more about you than me.

A mother, or an aunt, asking their daughter/neice if a boy that they appear to life is their "boyfriend" is sensible.

At 11?

Seriously?

I did. Where on earth did I say:

that I “You are an adult who apparently talks to many children about who they fancy and who they want to have a romantic relationship with”

What on earth?!

And having a conversation with my 11 year old niece on a topic she raised (a boy she met on an away trip from school) is not me “leading” anything.

Hysteria on your part.

Well he’s right about there only being two genders isn’t he? And I don’t believe in the whole Lbtqxyz shit either. If you’re gay, bi whatever - fair enough but how many more fucking letters do they need to add on to this ridiculous label?

Sorry, which bit don’t you understand?

Try reading your posts back, it might be useful.

It depends what she means by that.

No it’s not. This is you being hyperbolic over what I did say.

But then you did make reference to discussing “sexual relationships” with children so it’s just wild exaggeration on your part.

This.

What?

What “homophobic taunting” (which she mentions) would meet your threshold for exclusion.

I don't think you can tell this to your son

"I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice"

I think is very hypocritical to say everyone else can choose who they feel attracted to, who they have a sexual relationship with and even to have a choice to decide their gender despite their biology, but your son has no choice to agree or disagree with some else's ideologies?

You don't have to agree with someone else's life choices. But you can treat them with respect.

I think the last time lesbians mattered was when we were hauled out without consent by the TQ+ “allies” as being examples of why single sex spaces were a blight on humanity, because we were suddenly useful tools to pretend that women may confuse us with men.

Before that we were public enemy #1 for being the biggest bigots on earth for not wanting to sleep with males who “identified” as lesbians.

The joys of forced teaming.

Coming back to the 2 genders point, I wonder how many genders the OP thinks it's acceptable to say there are?

Yes it’s a shame that PPs can’t see what is in front of them. Trans ideology is the ultimate homophobia as it literally denies the existence of same sex attraction.

The rainbow brainwashing is pretty effective. You just have to look at the abusive posts on this very site from men threatening lesbians for existing as same sex attracted women. Or maybe lesbians don’t matter to @Fk48fj ?

This is absolutely correct as well.
The greatest and most insidious homophobia doing the rounds at the moment is not from bigoted heterosexuals, its not from the far right or Christianity either, its coming from gender ideolology and the TQ+.

What do you suggest instead?
Handcuffing them to their faintly judgemental peers and not releasing them until everyone embraces the rainbow?

You can't force acceptance. And if the worst thats happening is that kids who arent comfortable are distancing themselves or being "less close friends" then that actually works out pretty well for the gay kid, because they get to form friendships with kids who don't care and dont judge them. These are the better friendships to have, not the ones that are forced.

"You can't choose who you fall in love with" is often criticised on here when it applies to someone falling for a married man! And many aren't happy if it applies to a much older person falling in love with a much younger adult.

I don't believe in the millions of genders thing. You're a man if you're born a man. You're a woman if you're born as a woman.

Personality is a spectrum though.

The thing with LGBTQ. You cannot force anyone to agree with it, but you can teach people to while they disagree with it personally to treat others with respect.

I’m not sure what you are suggesting that no adult does?

Have you read Jhounds posts? I’m responding to her because that’s what she said she does.

No adult does that. You are exaggerating, catastrophising and fear mongering massively.

Not nice.

I’m very sorry your family has suffered from homophobia.

OP clearly brought gender ideology into this and from the activities run by the school it seems clear that it has contributed greatly to the OPs sons views. So if you’re serious about combating homophobia in schools you really do need to help get gender ideology out as the force teaming if LGB with TQ+ is causing huge damage to gay people. It’s a shame you can’t see it.