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To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

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Calmorchaos · 08/07/2025 19:31

I’m after some advice really on how to approach this.

I have always been the type of person to support anyone to be who they are. I’ve never shied away or shielded my children from the world - very much a ‘love is love’ person and always encouraged my children to support those who need it and be inclusive ( in terms of people being bullied , disabilities etc too ) .

My youngest is going into high school ( 11 ) . Over the past few months I’ve noticed a few comments such as “ there are 2 genders “ , “ I don’t support LGBTQ “ . I’ve addressed this in the moment . But recently he found out his new school has an LGBTQ assembly on a monthly basis and he has started saying he doesn’t want to go because “ he doesn’t support it” . I sat down and had a chat with him , I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice , i explained it as he could say he doesn’t agree with people eating meat as that is a choice he would be making , but someone’s sexuality is their feelings and not a choice.

I am sure comments will allow me to explain more how the conversation went from my side so I won’t drag this post on with that but his comments were unnerving :

  • he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
  • we can choose who we fall in love with
  • if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I know he is very young and he doesn’t understand and has things to learn. He is the sweetest boy and the way he said these things sounded scripted as though he has heard others say this . I know he is a child and it’s my job that guide him and that’s the advice I’m asking for , how do I address this? I’m not saying I need him to go around advocating I just don’t want these views becoming ingrained and he becomes the reason another student who is struggling, struggles more. I know I may be overreacting but this age and as the years go on is a time that he can be heavily influenced . He’s a quiet, sweet boy and I do believe he could be heavily influenced.

Another concerning thing is that when I asked him where he had heard all this and where it comes from he said his Dad .

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TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 23:03

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She came back to 'born in the wrong body' in at least one other post.

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TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:58

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:56

I’m sorry for the harm this has done to your family member. I’m sorry that some people who seem to working under a false impression that they are kind would react so heartlessly about a vulnerable kid. It’s quite astounding.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:56

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:38

To make a general point.

Unfortunately people like my cousin's child, who have detransitioned, but have been harmed by hormone treatment and surgery do exist

However much some people don't want to engage with this truth.

I’m sorry for the harm this has done to your family member. I’m sorry that some people who seem to working under a false impression that they are kind would react so heartlessly about a vulnerable kid. It’s quite astounding.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:55

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:54

Barely, the focus is on the clearly listed homophobic language and views the op’s son is engaging in. That was clearly the op’s concern and the focus of her op.

Literally the first point she makes is about gender.

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:54

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:51

It’s literally mentioned in the OP.

Barely, the focus is on the clearly listed homophobic language and views the op’s son is engaging in. That was clearly the op’s concern and the focus of her op.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:53

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:51

It’s literally mentioned in the OP.

This has been pointed out, but the poster seems determined to ignore that, repeatedly.

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:51

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:10

Well there is when it literally has zero to do with the subject. It’s called hijacking.

It’s literally mentioned in the OP.

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:50

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:46

You might need to send that memo to trans identified men like India Willoughby, he not only claims to be a biological woman but that his inverted penis has somehow morphed into a cervix.

At least you know the truth. Biological sex is the important factor in situation where sex segregation is important so there is no claim for ‘gender identity’ to affect that and no need for men to be in women’s spaces. Glad we found agreement eventually.

🥱

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:49

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:41

LGBTQ assemblies (and secret lunch clubs and activist teachers secretly encouraging children to keep secrets from their parents) are part of the tools used to harm children in this way.

I’ve been listening to the hugely informative podcast series by Inciteful Sisters. The episode 17, Protect and Teach about activists in schools who have abandoned basic safeguarding roles and actively encourage children to keep secrets from their parents.

You are very keen to stamp out homophobia but I am bemused at why you can’t see the huge homophobia of the trans industry. Why don’t you listen to other gay people in this very thread telling you about the problem?

My child was desperate for an LGBT club they are crucial for gay young people in school. Being able to attend one and having a place to escape the homophobic language he was subjected to may have stopped him trying to take his own life.

Suggesting that inclusion and education are all attempts to harm children is disgusting. My child had/ has a right to inclusion and other homophobic children being educated.

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:46

Sabire9 · 10/07/2025 21:03

@Ereshkigalangcleg

"Being “T” or “Q” involves a disputed claim about reality"

No it doesn't.

Transgender people know what their biological sex is. They just feel their gender identity isn't congruent with their biological sex. As gender identity is a psychological and social construct this is not a denial of 'reality'.

You might need to send that memo to trans identified men like India Willoughby, he not only claims to be a biological woman but that his inverted penis has somehow morphed into a cervix.

At least you know the truth. Biological sex is the important factor in situation where sex segregation is important so there is no claim for ‘gender identity’ to affect that and no need for men to be in women’s spaces. Glad we found agreement eventually.

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:44

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:41

The projection is off the charts 🙄

🤣Oh the irony!

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:44

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:38

To make a general point.

Unfortunately people like my cousin's child, who have detransitioned, but have been harmed by hormone treatment and surgery do exist

However much some people don't want to engage with this truth.

And again it’s nothing to do with the thread.Homophobic language which often causes gay children to be driven to suicidal idealisation is what it’s about. You want a trans thread start your own.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:42

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:41

LGBTQ assemblies (and secret lunch clubs and activist teachers secretly encouraging children to keep secrets from their parents) are part of the tools used to harm children in this way.

I’ve been listening to the hugely informative podcast series by Inciteful Sisters. The episode 17, Protect and Teach about activists in schools who have abandoned basic safeguarding roles and actively encourage children to keep secrets from their parents.

You are very keen to stamp out homophobia but I am bemused at why you can’t see the huge homophobia of the trans industry. Why don’t you listen to other gay people in this very thread telling you about the problem?

It's the most astonishing blind spot, isn't it?

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:41

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:40

Right back at you and the others who don’t give two shiny shits re the plight of victims of homophobic bullying and language in schools. So much so when a parent wants to make sure her child isn’t being sucked into homophobia you attempt to hijack the whole thread into yet another trans thread.Just vile.

The projection is off the charts 🙄

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:41

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 20:57

No kids don’t transition after lgbtq assemblies. There is far more to it as you well know.

LGBTQ assemblies (and secret lunch clubs and activist teachers secretly encouraging children to keep secrets from their parents) are part of the tools used to harm children in this way.

I’ve been listening to the hugely informative podcast series by Inciteful Sisters. The episode 17, Protect and Teach about activists in schools who have abandoned basic safeguarding roles and actively encourage children to keep secrets from their parents.

You are very keen to stamp out homophobia but I am bemused at why you can’t see the huge homophobia of the trans industry. Why don’t you listen to other gay people in this very thread telling you about the problem?

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:40

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:33

I shared a story that happened to a
relative of mine.

However much you want this to be 'scaremongering'. It is not.

Your astonishing reaction to her plight speaks volumes about you

Right back at you and the others who don’t give two shiny shits re the plight of victims of homophobic bullying and language in schools. So much so when a parent wants to make sure her child isn’t being sucked into homophobia you attempt to hijack the whole thread into yet another trans thread.Just vile.

senua · 10/07/2025 22:40

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:07

Nothing to do with this thread. Start your own.

What?Confused How is my post "nothing to do with this thread" when it was a response to a post on this thread. I even helpfully quoted it, so we all knew what I was referring to.
I note that you haven't told Sabire9 to stop posting.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:39

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:36

You suggesting that much needed inclusive assemblies cause the extreme behaviours you described is scaremongering and pretty vile. Your relation will have been on a whole other journey. An assembly does not a trans child make.

You don’t even have any idea of the content of the assemblies in the ops post. So inflammatory and deeply unpleasant.

Edited

Read my post again. What I actually said. Not what you imagined I did.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:38

To make a general point.

Unfortunately people like my cousin's child, who have detransitioned, but have been harmed by hormone treatment and surgery do exist

However much some people don't want to engage with this truth.

OneKookyWasp · 10/07/2025 22:38

I wonder if its time to subdivide this forum.

We could have "AIBU", then "AIBU and talk to me at length re your opinions on transgender ideology"

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:36

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:33

I shared a story that happened to a
relative of mine.

However much you want this to be 'scaremongering'. It is not.

Your astonishing reaction to her plight speaks volumes about you

You suggesting that much needed inclusive assemblies cause the extreme behaviours you described is scaremongering and pretty vile. Your relation will have been on a whole other journey. An assembly does not a trans child make.

You don’t even have any idea of the content of the assemblies in the ops post. So inflammatory and deeply unpleasant.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:33

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:29

Your ridiculous scaremongering, continual thread hijacking and trans obsession is boring, really boring. There is nothing wrong in pointing that out.

I shared a story that happened to a
relative of mine.

However much you want this to be 'scaremongering'. It is not.

Your astonishing reaction to her plight speaks volumes about you

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:32

Anyway back to the thread .Op if you’re still around you could speak to the school or his tutor. Point out your concerns and ask for some advice.

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:29

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:27

And you've the cheek to call me rude after the gif you posted about my cousin's child?

Your ridiculous scaremongering, continual thread hijacking and trans obsession is boring, really boring. There is nothing wrong in pointing that out.