To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

Your attempts to erase literally the first point she makes is quite something.

Exactly this. It’s just appalling.

No the op’s long op was about her concerns re homophobia not trans. She made that clear and is handling her concerns well. .

LGBT clubs are crucial and incredibly valuable. How dare you say said clubs will be run by activists. That is scaremongering at its worst. My son tried to take his own life because he was surrounded by homophobic language and shunned. He is still battling massively with his MH now as a result. He needed a place to meet others like him. So gay kids can’t have lgbt clubs at school because a few on MN are obsessed with trans ideology - that’s pretty disgusting.

Yes. So she was talking about gender, not sexuality.

That's exactly my point.

I suggest you take this up with the OP, not me. All I'm doing is repeating the words she used.

There really aren't grey areas.

The kids who got liberty blockers, went first started with this 'treatment', overwhelmingly gay or lesbian and their parents didn't want gay or lesbian kids.

It is homophobic through and through. And as it progressed it picked up many autistic kids, who couldn't understand that it was ok to be gender non conforming. Gender non conforming kids are statistically more likely to grow up gay or lesbian.

There is no 'L or G' when the T is introduced as it turns everything on it's head.

It is a terrible, terrible idea to introduce to confused growing kids.

LOL

Yes - she said that some people feel as though they are born in the wrong body, and that some people disagree with that, and he can make his own mind up.

I imagine that most (all?) people acknowledge that some people feel as though they were born in the wrong body so, again, there is no reason to make this thread about transgender people.

I understand this is personal to you, and I'm sorry about what happened to your neice, but it is still not what the thread is about.

Again, this is just deeply offensive.

Jesus Christ wtf is wrong with people? You have no clue at all what this family went through and continue to. How nice for you to just be able to sit back and judge. They are living it.

My cousin's child was heavily influenced by a teacher, who gave her the 'born in the wrong body' narrative, which my cousin's child, very confused about the changes in her body due to puberty, bought into.

The child wanted to go down a medical pathway, which my cousin was deeply reluctant about, but there were threats of going no contact, so she was supportive.

My cousin was then told by medical professionals, 'better a live son than a dead daughter' and that scared my cousin enough to support the decision to take the hormones.

Now that she's detransitioned, there is lots of regret and very complicated emotions from both my cousin and her child. I don't blame my cousin, she was totally let down by professionals who should have known better. It's a genuine tragedy for them all.

And judgement from people like you, who haven't the faintest clue what they've gone through is just the icing on the cake.

We all are. It's everywhere. I mean, I'm not offended by it. But it's forced down our throats. Fair enough, as long as other alternatives are also addressed.

My post was mainly addressed to those wingeing about the occasional LGBTQ assembly at school, implying it would warp childrens socialisation.

I'd say the parents of that child were doing a pretty poor job if school assemblies were the most significant and influential factor in the child's life, leading to transitioning.

Any assembly I've ever witnessed has been mind numbingly boring.

It isn’t always though is it. There are GREY AREAS!!!

Jesus Christ

I missed that, thought he was a teenager.

The OP is about homophobia. Trans ideology IS homophobia.

Ritchie Herron interview. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7NX7iPr9k&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

Your child needed an LGB club though.

Why would you want your child to join a club where he might be told by activist that the reason he’s unhappy is because he was born in the wrong body and is really a girl ‘inside’?

I suggest you look at what happened to Ritchie Herron and reflect on what you are being told.

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Homophobia?!

🥱Nothing to do with the op.

Have you read the part in the Cass report where she highlights the ‘in joke’ among staff at the Tavistock where the proportion of gay and lesbians kids being referred was so high they said there would be no gay kids left?

’Transing away the gay’ is the phrase coined.

You may not understand the enormity of the issue but your child and his rights are vulnerable to the trans activists.

Stonewall, the TQ+ charity, has actively lobbied government to change the definition of sexual orientation to base it on ‘gender’. If successful, this would render legal protections for your child on the basis of his sexual orientation meaningless. So that homophobic hate crime law you clearly put huge value on would be meaningless. The Legal Feminist or Sex Matters has useful explanations on the technical legal aspects of this.

Even recently, now that the Supreme Court judgement, in a case brought by women who know that biological sex is important and real, benefits your child. If FWS had lost, it would have been detrimental to your child’s rights and protections. The trans activists, to use your words, don’t give a shiny shit about LGB, except when they need to use them to further their own wishes.

I just wish you could understand who the bad guys are here. It’s not me.

Ask your son if he fancies boys or girls.

If he fancies boys (which I’d be surprised if he’d admit due to his ‘beliefs’) then his homophobic comments are likely due to his feelings around his own sexuality.

If he says he fancies girls, ask him if he chooses to do that. As in, he could fancy boys, but decides to fancy girls instead.

I imagine that will help him understand.

And ignore all the trans debate shite on here people just cannot help themselves.

So you’re going to ignore the actual focus of her posts and the huge amount of reference to homophobic language.

Oh behave.

Yeah and it’s quite astounding re the way gay children like my son are treated by trans posters like yourselves on MN. It’s vile. You simply don’t give a shit in your obsession with lecturing re trans.