To think there must be something that can be done for an aging face?

@FeministUnderTheCatriarchy can you tell me which dr gross pads please? I’ve just googled and there are too many different types. I want your ones if they give results!
Tia.

I think there’s only so much that skincare/botox/filler/ultherapy etc can achieve and if you want really good results you have to go for the expensive and aggressive options like surgery and having your skin lasered off. I am saving hard, only mid forties and my face already looks like a melted candle sadly.

Got the absolute minimum that was available but it really worked well.

Sorry I’m very far from Scotland so can’t recommend anyone down your way!

Getting rid of dark spots would be great. They bother me more than looking my age.

Tret did nothing for me except make my face look more blotchy with weird itchy bits. The brown spots stayed the same. I gave it a good 18 months too.

Late 60’s here, and I hate every minute of ageing.
I have nearly finished a tube of Tretinoin cream, prescription from the doctor.
No results. It’s dark spots I hate, and always looking tired.

This is interesting especially about fillers interfering with facelifts. I didn’t know that.

My main issues are jaw sagging and eyelid droop, not sure fillers can do much for either anyway, so sounds like I’m best off waiting and doing surgery later. Suits me as I’m lazy and cba with the upkeep of fillers!

@WaitedBlankey would love to know your mum’s surgeon if you wouldn’t mind PMing me

I've started morpheous 8. I've only had one session so far. I don't really have much wrinkles, but do have skin texture and rosacea. It's reduced the redness of my rosacea drastically and helped with texture after 1 session. Should look at Judy murrys before and after.

I've never seen a face, of any age, that doesn't look loads better with a smile on it.

Conversely, a grumpy face, no matter how radiant the skin, not so appealing.

Has anyone used those electric current devices that work with light to supposedly lift your face. Im 40 and my skin is pretty good, have an 11 which I'm probably going to get botox for but it isn't really that bad at the moment. I was on some medication which caused a lot of weight gain but also made my face go puffy. My face looks like mine again but it's saggy around my jowls where the puffiness was! I'm wondering if there is anything that can make a difference?

I am 52 and have botox every 4 months and have fillers. I go to a really good clinic in London and it looks really natural, sort of me 5 years ago if that makes sense.

Apart from that I don’t spend any money on make up or skincare. I just use Nivea and a bit of Boots own make up. I think because I am so not vain, people don’t realise I have had anything done as I am the sort of person who hardly bothers to brush my hair☺️

Once past 55, the only option is a facelift (for mid, lower face and neck). Sagging skin needs lifting, not filling. Filling causes problems when trying to lift surgically (as does laser treatment and needling due to the scarring).

Be very careful with Sculptra because it keeps on 'growing' years after it's placed, leading to puffy/fat faces (see Tom Cruise & Nicole Kidman and numerous others).

In the UK you can get via Skin & Me or Dermatica. Alternatively if you know anyone going to Italy, Greece or Spain or Asia it's available from any pharmacy there and it's incredibly cheap.

You start off really slow, you don't want to go straight for the strongest option. It took me over a year to go from 0.025 to 0.05%. My skin won't tolerate 0.1% and I see good results with my current strength so have chosen not to go up. You have to listen to what your skin can handle.

I use every second night. You also have to be very careful about using actives (like acids) when starting out. You also need to protect your skin barrier.

If you do decide to use tret, then I highly recommend Vanicream moisteriser and cleanser which are easily available in the UK and free of irritants. Or if you can access it then Illyoon ato barrier lotion and Aestura essence are both amazing and they are what I use noe, layered.

I also now use Dr Dennis Gross Daily Peel Pads twice a week (cut in half and put back into their packets so only really using one whole pad a week) and I have to say the results from them were instant and absolutely incredible.

I wouldn't use them when starting out with tret, but I also wouldn't be without them now. They have cured my adult acne and faded old scars and I have such a healthy glow.
Tret is great, but the peel pads give you that satisfaction of instant, incredible results.

Sunscreen every day, no matter what, is crucial. Your skin will be much more delicate and you will get serious sun damage if you don't protect it. Basically it causes the cells to turnover more quickly, so they are more vulnerable.

Sorry that should read Olidia

I’ve had Olivia, which is similar to Sculptra in that it stimulates collagen. Not cheap but very pleased with the results so far. It will keep improving over the next few months.

Tret, botox, strategic filler, sunscreen and a really good face-lift around the age of 55/60 amis what my plastic surgeon friend advocates for.

She thinks people should only really get one face-lift, so save it for around that age. Also go easy on the fillers as it can do something to surgical results (can't remember what).

She's also a huge advocate for hydra facials done monthly. (but I could never afford that).

I’m pretty much the same as the pp, I have Botox twice a year for my elevens but that’s it, I would rather save my money and have a full face lift before I’m sixty because nothing can get rid of the sagging face and neck apart from the surgeons knife.