To think there must be something that can be done for an aging face?

They are absolutely incredible!!!

I use them twice a week after cleansing at night, on a dry face. Then I wait 20 mins after step 2 and put on my moisteriser.

I recommend a cleanser and moisteriser with no actives as that can be too much for your skin. Something like Vanicream, Illyoon or Curel is perfect.

Also remember not to use tret the same night (if you do use it). Also don't forget to cut each step in half and then fold the pack over and seal it with a bobby pin. The pads have more than enough liquid for it to be equally effective doing this and you get double the value.

I’ve used them before, at night yes and you can moisturise after
i tended to use them then leave my skin bare for a bit and moisturise before bed

Sorry to hijack the thread!

@FeministUnderTheCatriarchy those pads look amazing - just been reading reviews and so many people have said they are a holy grail item. I've never seen them before! Think I may treat myself to a small pack.

Do you use them at night? And is it ok to put moisturiser on after?

Agree with you about the eyelashes and duck pouts. I also see very weird eyebrows and wonder who decided they were a good look😅 but subtle filler made a massive difference to my sagging jawline.

This. I’ve had all the treatments, the 8 point lift, the expensive skincare, and have now given up and joined the ‘we do not care club’.
It’s so expensive for very little gain.
This is my face, don’t like it, oh well.
I don’t even see my face unless I look in a mirror..

Im saving up for Kris Jenners surgeon 😂

correctly placed cheek filler can be excellent. Very subtle and make such a difference.

Once you have sculptra you cannot go on to have a facelift I’ve read

I’ve had filler in the mid face, nose to mouth lines and lips and am delighted with the results. Got it done by Dr Senna in Barnes Bridge. She’s amazing and would wholeheartedly recommend.

It's called a different opinion. I know this is the UK and that's not encouraged. But no, I won't get off a thread just because you don't like my opinion.

Ok I apologise for my post. I see OP doesnt want aging gracefully responses. Sorry. But this would do better in S and B.

I agree with all this! Well said. Emptying the sea with a thimble more like. I am in my 50s and never doing anything. Hopefully I age like my mum who looks great to me.

I'd say this isn't the thread for you then, based on the above. So perhaps just ignore rather than talking down to women who do want to make the best of what they have.

A good routine that I follow usually is:
No Actives: Monday & Thursday (optional), Sunday
Peel Pads: Tuesday & Saturday
Tretinoin: Wednesday, Friday (optional), Sunday

I recently added in Sunday's tret and my skin has been fine and I am noticing some improvements to texture.

Eventually I will likely not have any off days and will slowly add in more tret, but I am doing it carefully as I have damaged my skin barrier in the past. I am also sticking to 0.025% tret as I see results and can use it frequently. The minute I go up in strength my skin freaks out and never seems to adjust.

Make sure your other skincare is really gentle and soothing when using the peel pads and tret. I like Vanicream, Curel, Aestura and Illyoon for moisterisers and cleansers. Cerave is often recommended but it gives me cystic acne and didn't seem to really soothe my skin.

You learn to accept it.

It's purely industries (very successfully) cashing in on making women believe ageing is ugly and unacceptable. (Not men is it ?) And we as a society buy it, hook line and sinker. Industries make billions from it. Can't just have it done once , oh no, you must come back for your ever decreasing time span "top ups"

Honestly? You're attempting to fight an unfightable entity: time (and it's effects)

You may as well get a tea cup and attempt to empty the sea.

Don't smoke. Don't drink alcohol. Drink water. Moisture and clean your skin.

There's plenty of techniques to make you look "brighter" (collagen cream is good) factor 50 sun block. Highlighting sticks etc.

The rest (unless you want to transfer your wages directly into an aestheticians pocket ) Is utterly futile.

Half the recent shit doesn't even look nice (genuinely) who on earth would have thought we would brainwash women into walking round with big thick black fake eyelashes and duck pouts and make them believe they look good ?

I did The Universal Daily Peel Pads and then moved up to The Extra Strength Daily Peel Pads.

Don't forget to cut them in half and pop the other half back in the packet and seal with a bobby pin. You get double the amount of use out of the pads and the exact same results.

You don't need to use more than twice a week despite them being called "daily". They are extremely effective and more than twice a week would be quite a lot considering they are strong.

They really are amazing, you'll hate me when you try them because you won't be able to live without them in your routine lol.

Rmemeber not to use other actives (acids or tret or retinols) on the same night as these :)

They can help with surface scarring but the damage done deeper in the dermis by some lasers and needling can mean that the surgeon later has difficulty separating out the tissue layers when trying to carry out a face lift, especially the very delicate fascia layer.

Quit your job, get lots of sleep and eat well.
It delays the muscle loss.

How does laser and microneedling cause scarring? Genuine question as I thought they were meant to help with existing scarring, not cause new scarring.

Radio frequency facial. 6 sessions are recommended. I started seeing results after the 2nd session and they lasted for about a year.

What is RF?

RF is really good for lifting the face amd giving subtle volume.